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Title: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Admin on December 08, 2013, 11:00:42 PM
It has been brought to our attention that certain individuals whom we have graciously allowed to join our forum and participate in discussions have chosen to post malicious derogatory comments about the forum elsewhere. 

In the circumstances therefore we have deemed their membership null and void and have deleted their accounts.  They will not be permitted to rejoin.

Admin  ?>)()<
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Angelo222 on December 08, 2013, 11:07:40 PM
It has been brought to our attention that certain individuals whom we have graciously allowed to join our forum and participate in discussions have chosen to post malicious derogatory comments about the forum elsewhere. 

In the circumstances therefore we have deemed their membership null and void and have deleted their accounts.  They will not be permitted to rejoin.

Admin  ?>)()<

Its not like they ever contributed much in any event.  I'm sure they will be for ever content swimming  around in a pool of their own venom.    Way to go!! 8@??)( @)(++(*
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Angelo222 on December 09, 2013, 02:54:53 AM
Best not to give them any oxygen Pat.  A sewer site like that will always attract the rats.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Mr Moderator on December 09, 2013, 03:01:42 AM
There are far more than "a pair" of plonkers on that site !
Unfortunately there are at least 3 members of that site, and another notorious sewer site who are members here also !
All posting snide comments about respected members here, members from here who go out of their way to back up their assertions with citations, unlike the guttersnipes who huddle back to the respective sewer sites to receive orders from admins. who haven't the spine to sign up here themselves !

Admins. who are so entrenched in their hatred of anyone who questions Kate & Gerry's word that they will change screenshots to make a respected member of this forum look silly, admins. who will slate at a hands turn the words of another respected member who's court reports have been posted on this forum without want of thanks or praise, an ordinary member who has taken time out of her life to present the proceedings of that court case to those of us who can not be there, at her own personal cost. Yet the admins. of these fora see fit to slander and slate her reports.

Says a lot for the so called 'Pro's' doesn't it !

John, you and your admin. team are doing fantastic work in providing an equal and level playing field for all sides of debate, please don't give up !


Their true colours are beginning to show through as was expected.  It always was a case of those who bleat loudest have the most to hide.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: carlymichelle on December 09, 2013, 05:16:07 AM

Their true colours are beginning to show through as was expected.  It always was a case of those who bleat loudest have the most to hide.

good point and they have their own cesspits  to post on they dont need to pollute this forum
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 09, 2013, 06:15:47 AM
Is this a thread to have a go at another forum then? Why would you ban someone for posting elsewhere? Is that a forum rule? Posts on the internet are to be restricted only to this forum?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 09, 2013, 06:41:28 AM
There are far more than "a pair" of plonkers on that site !
Unfortunately there are at least 3 members of that site, and another notorious sewer site who are members here also !
All posting snide comments about respected members here, members from here who go out of their way to back up their assertions with citations, unlike the guttersnipes who huddle back to the respective sewer sites to receive orders from admins. who haven't the spine to sign up here themselves !

Admins. who are so entrenched in their hatred of anyone who questions Kate & Gerry's word that they will change screenshots to make a respected member of this forum look silly, admins. who will slate at a hands turn the words of another respected member who's court reports have been posted on this forum without want of thanks or praise, an ordinary member who has taken time out of her life to present the proceedings of that court case to those of us who can not be there, at her own personal cost. Yet the admins. of these fora see fit to slander and slate her reports.

Says a lot for the so called 'Pro's' doesn't it !

John, you and your admin. team are doing fantastic work in providing an equal and level playing field for all sides of debate, please don't give up !

A level playing field? A place where both sides can debate? Have a think about it, is that happening here?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: carlymichelle on December 09, 2013, 06:44:41 AM
A level playing field? A place where both sides can debate? Have a think about it, is that happening here?
Is this a thread to have a go at another forum then? Why would you ban someone for posting elsewhere? Is that a forum rule? Posts on the internet are to be restricted only to this forum?

its ok  to post on other forums as long as  you dont slander this one on that  other forum/forums
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 09, 2013, 07:00:23 AM
Slander?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Joanne on December 09, 2013, 07:51:18 AM
Sometime the balance between removal and non removal of posts is a very fine one and there have been times when I've asked for a second opinion. There are also other issues to consider, legal implications as I found out much to my own detriment and the admin team.
I have NEVER removed any posts based on the poster or their beliefs and to an extent I try not to post in the McCann segment of the forum anymore because I am trying to be impartial. When I have made mistakes, I have apologised for them.
Having read the forum being referred to, the Jeremy Bamber forum has not and has never banned anyone for being a member of this forum and there's and nor have we. There have been incidences of cross posting about members, at one point we had a 'truce' between forum which the JB forum still upholds and always has, they do not allow our members to be discussed on their forum. I am not willing to comment about their other members, I am not a member of the forum now.

I hope that none of the posters who have posted on the said forum ever cross Kevin Craigie, the murderer who to this day is trying to clear his name and plead innocence. The same bloke who posts slanderous, libel or false comments about people under several different names on any forum where he gets the chance because he hasn't got the decency to use his own name, borrows money and never pays it back, declares his own death and posts his own obituary having committed suicide twice and then assumes it is me who posts on other forum which I have never even been on about him. A convicted murderer who gets a job with the CAB working with vulnerable people.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Angelo222 on December 09, 2013, 09:25:14 AM
Troll Alert!!

Forumotion should be so proud to have such a cesspit forum using their free services.  I predict they don't last much longer if they take their terms and conditions seriously.  Trolls exposing trolls...you couldn't make it up if you tried.   @)(++(*

Admins > Could I suggest that new registrants using proxy services are no longer accepted.

Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: carlymichelle on December 09, 2013, 09:37:07 AM
Troll Alert!!

Forumotion should be so proud to have such a cesspit forum using their free services.  I predict they don't last much longer if they take their terms and conditions seriously.  Trolls exposing trolls...you couldn't make it up if you tried.   @)(++(*

Admins > Could I suggest that new registrants using proxy services are no longer accepted.
8@??)( i always  give my  computer a  good disinfectiont if i   vist their  filthy cesspit
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Mr Moderator on December 09, 2013, 09:43:15 AM
Troll Alert!!

Forumotion should be so proud to have such a cesspit forum using their free services.  I predict they don't last much longer if they take their terms and conditions seriously.  Trolls exposing trolls...you couldn't make it up if you tried.   @)(++(*

Admins > Could I suggest that new registrants using proxy services are no longer accepted.

Already in place Angelo.  The troll gates are being electrified as I post.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: pinkblossoms on December 09, 2013, 04:33:07 PM
Why would anyone want you all to shut up carly, none of you have any impact on the McCann case, and none of you are going to solve it.

Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 09, 2013, 05:09:50 PM
8@??)( i always  give my  computer a  good disinfectiont if i   vist their  filthy cesspit

If you don't like the content, why do you even visit these other forums?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Redblossom on December 09, 2013, 07:12:41 PM
Why would anyone want you all to shut up carly, none of you have any impact on the McCann case, and none of you are going to solve it.

Well, the Mccanns want to know who people on the net are....why would  they want to do that? if, in Kate Mccanns words, she is past caring what is written online?

Clarence Mitchell also stated he has ways and means of dealing with internet posters... Threatening much?
 @)(++(*


Have you also never read the myriad comments made here there and everywhere over the years, including in Kate Mccanns book, about this, that and the other forum should be shut down etc? Of course you have, so why the comment about no one saying anything about shutting people up? And who ever claimed to matter or to be able to aolve the case? No one......

Well done admin for dealing with trolls......!!




Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 10, 2013, 06:37:37 AM
Very strange thread. Members posting on other forums will be banned. Certain other forums discussed in a derogatory manner within it. People will not be told what to post or think. It is their right to think and express their ideas when and where they want to. Express it in the wrong place, if you don't want to say the parents of a missing child are guilty, and you get a ban.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: carlymichelle on December 10, 2013, 07:07:01 AM
Very strange thread. Members posting on other forums will be banned. Certain other forums discussed in a derogatory manner within it. People will not be told what to post or think. It is their right to think and express their ideas when and where they want to. Express it in the wrong place, if you don't want to say the parents of a missing child are guilty, and you get a ban.

you  got it wrong talking   bad about this forum on other forums  WILL get you banned
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Joanne on December 10, 2013, 08:48:41 AM
 People might not like it when comments are removed or warnings/short bans are given, none of us do but that doesn't give licence to start an online war elsewhere in my opinion. Derogatory, unfounded, false, lies and libellous comments don't tend to go down well and when you're named on site after site with the aforementioned it tends to wear thin after a bit. Banning people is ALWAYS our last option.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 10, 2013, 03:25:51 PM

How does anyone know what is being said on other Sites?  Unless there is a rush to read them and then come running to tell tales?
"Please, Sir, somedebody said something rude about you?"

Is this Site incapable of standing by it's own procedures, and has some need to wipe any dissension?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: icabodcrane on December 10, 2013, 05:29:26 PM
How does anyone know what is being said on other Sites?  Unless there is a rush to read them and then come running to tell tales?
"Please, Sir, somedebody said something rude about you?"

Is this Site incapable of standing by it's own procedures, and has some need to wipe any dissension?

Why on earth should Admin tolerate those who come here with the sole intention of disrupting the forum,   and whose aim is to shut down any and all open discussion of the McCann case  ?

If that wasn't provocation enough,  these trolls then scuttle off to their dark corners of the internet to boast about being banned as though it were a badge of honour,  and use filthy language to demean, ridicule and slander our moderators and members

Admin have shown admirable tolerance in the past,  but enough is enough
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: John on December 10, 2013, 05:37:04 PM
How does anyone know what is being said on other Sites? 

It's the internet Eleanor...loyal members report such goings on to the admin.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 10, 2013, 05:42:47 PM
Why on earth should Admin tolerate those who come here with the sole intention of disrupting the forum,   and whose aim is to shut down any and all open discussion of the McCann case  ?

If that wasn't provocation enough,  these trolls then scuttle off to their dark corners of the internet to boast about being banned as though it were a badge of honour,  and use filthy language to demean, ridicule and slander our moderators and members

Admin have shown admirable tolerance in the past,  but enough is enough

No, you are wrong about that.  No one came here with the intention of disrupting the Forum, back in the beginning when there was some sort of balance.
But if you and your ilk want this to become an Anti McCann Site then that is fine by me.  You defeat your own object.

As you rightly point out, we have other places in which to defend The McCanns.

Any sign of any charges against The McCanns yet?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: icabodcrane on December 10, 2013, 06:03:17 PM
No, you are wrong about that.  No one came here with the intention of disrupting the Forum, back in the beginning when there was some sort of balance.
But if you and your ilk want this to become an Anti McCann Site then that is fine by me.  You defeat your own object.

As you rightly point out, we have other places in which to defend The McCanns.

Any sign of any charges against The McCanns yet?

There is no  'defence'  of the McCanns in the  'places'  you allude to  ...  there is no discussion or debate which requires any defence,  given that any questioning of the McCanns version of events is simply not allowed

That is why this forum is anathema to the people who frequent those  'places'   ... not because it is biased  (  all views are treated with equal respect )  but  because it  does  allow open discussion and debate
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Wonderfulspam on December 10, 2013, 06:05:21 PM
There is no  'defence'  of the McCanns in the  'places'  you allude to  ...  there is no discussion or debate which requires any defence,  given that any questioning of the McCanns version of events is simply not allowed

That is why this forum is anathema to the people who frequent those  'places'   ... not because it is biased  (  all views are treated with equal respect )  but  because it  does  allow open discussion and debate

Spot on as usual.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: drummer on December 10, 2013, 10:01:40 PM
John does this account deletion apply to pro's only? I have already provided you with proof of a prominent posters choice of words/accusations/ridicule towards you and the mods on here on another forum but that poster still remains?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: John on December 11, 2013, 07:39:23 PM
Please keep posts relevant to op. TY
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: John on December 11, 2013, 08:08:16 PM
John does this account deletion apply to pro's only? I have already provided you with proof of a prominent posters choice of words/accusations/ridicule towards you and the mods on here on another forum but that poster still remains?

It's very simple, any member who brings the forum into disrepute by posting derogatory comments elsewhere will have their membership reviewed. 

I am very aware of who you mean and have read the posts you refer to.  Let's just say three strikes and he's out.

Most members abide by the rules but there is always one or two whose only agenda is to cause derision.  From now on a zero tolerance policy will be applied to troublemakers.

Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 12, 2013, 08:25:42 PM
My faith in the fair minded moderation here vanished.  The deleted abuse redblossom posted last night, I'd still like it to be dealt with please, deleting doesn't count. I saw the abuse.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 12, 2013, 08:31:52 PM
I would appreciate my post being dealt with, as per forum rules, not deleted.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 13, 2013, 02:18:14 AM
Reduced to answering your own posts?  So, so funny.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 13, 2013, 05:27:13 AM
Way too funny!

The booted out ex-members of this site have now dedicated FOUR pages in our honour in TWELVE HOURS !

That has to be some kind of internet forum record !

I neeley shared that PM !

Ooops, that should have been 'nearly' NOT 'neeley' !

And the rest of the names? (By the way, Neeley never private massaged you, that's a lie)

Also, as you know, those ex members here were members of those other forums for a considerable time before they joined this one. They haven't suddenly migrated there because they are now not available for you to abuse.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 13, 2013, 11:17:30 AM

After all of the allusions and lies about Private Messages, Opposing Pat does not have  stain to her forum name.
Not so very funny, that.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Admin on December 13, 2013, 01:35:42 PM
My faith in the fair minded moderation here vanished.  The deleted abuse redblossom posted last night, I'd still like it to be dealt with please, deleting doesn't count. I saw the abuse.

So what would you have us do?  Firing squad?
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Joanne on December 13, 2013, 01:50:51 PM
My faith in the fair minded moderation here vanished.  The deleted abuse redblossom posted last night, I'd still like it to be dealt with please, deleting doesn't count. I saw the abuse.

If you do not agree with deletion alone then feel free to contact admin. Fair moderation applies to everyone. I am here to moderate posts in the first instance and not the people, however when there is a consistently breach of the rules outright or enough people contact admin then they will act accordingly.
I will always give a warning where there is a clear breach of the rules, however, I cannot give an instant ban.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 13, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
If you do not agree with deletion alone then feel free to contact admin. Fair moderation applies to everyone. I am here to moderate posts in the first instance and not the people, however when there is a consistently breach of the rules outright or enough people contact admin then they will act accordingly.
I will always give a warning where there is a clear breach of the rules, however, I cannot give an instant ban.

This sounds a more than reasonable explanation.

However, I quite like The Firing Squad idea.   8(>((
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Angelo222 on December 13, 2013, 03:28:26 PM
This sounds a more than reasonable explanation.

However, I quite like The Firing Squad idea.   8(>((

Do you want a blindfold?   @)(++(*
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 13, 2013, 03:34:41 PM
Do you want a blindfold?   @)(++(*

No thanks.  But you can hold my hand ifn you like.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Jazzy on December 13, 2013, 03:41:43 PM
So what would you have us do?  Firing squad?

That'll do, yes.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: Eleanor on December 13, 2013, 09:36:27 PM

Well, we do have two choices here.  Give up or go on battling it out.  I tend to fluctuate between the two depending on which phase of the moon it is.  Sometimes I can hack it and sometimes I can't.  But I don't think it makes a lot of difference in the end.
None of the shite is going to get The McCanns arrested.
Title: Re: Members posting derogatory comments elsewhere risk account deletion.
Post by: John on March 11, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
Well, we do have two choices here.  Give up or go on battling it out.  I tend to fluctuate between the two depending on which phase of the moon it is.  Sometimes I can hack it and sometimes I can't.  But I don't think it makes a lot of difference in the end.
None of the shite is going to get The McCanns arrested.

You're spot on there, only their own actions will achieve that particular proposition.