New Brett Interview

[Caroline]

https://linktr.ee/WHFMurders?fbclid=IwAR2T5n6u8_fh2xd_uzRe8kJpTj6XTl_yLgzBJaw52-lPWWBc4SLiD0PehPw

[Nicholas]

https://linktr.ee/WHFMurders?fbclid=IwAR2T5n6u8_fh2xd_uzRe8kJpTj6XTl_yLgzBJaw52-lPWWBc4SLiD0PehPw

Time for Bamber to explain the Anji and Virginia Greaves story (Approx 44:36) http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9666.msg589764#msg589764

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=17.msg592161#msg592161

And would have been interesting to hear Brett Collins thoughts on Charles Marsden http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11533.msg594318#msg594318

[Myster]

https://linktr.ee/WHFMurders?fbclid=IwAR2T5n6u8_fh2xd_uzRe8kJpTj6XTl_yLgzBJaw52-lPWWBc4SLiD0PehPw

Thanks for the link, Caroline.

I found K. Page's busy Welsh accent indistinct and jarring, so looked for an alternative link where you can slow the podcast speed down to about 0.8 or 0.9 which (for me) makes it more listenable.  Click on Play Episode first then scroll down to the bottom of the page to adjust it with the minus sign...

https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/the-white-house-farm-murders-1260797/episodes/hes-where-he-belongs-w-brett-c-89588392

[KayPage1990]

Hey,

Kay Page here 

I am so sorry about the accent issue. It's one of the curses of being from the Valleys and try as I might, I just can't tone it down. But I'll actually try slowing the speed on next week's episode, I hadn't tried that.

But I am in the process of building the website and eventually there'll be transcripts for each episode there.

Let me know if anyone has any questions about this too :)

[Myster]

Hey,

Kay Page here 

I am so sorry about the accent issue. It's one of the curses of being from the Valleys and try as I might, I just can't tone it down. But I'll actually try slowing the speed on next week's episode, I hadn't tried that.

But I am in the process of building the website and eventually there'll be transcripts for each episode there.

For now, I'll attach the transcript of the episode (slightly different to the live one as I made edits after recording) and the transcript of the interview for anyone interested. I know my accent can be a problem and for people who can't/don't like podcasts :)

Let me know if anyone has any questions about this too :)

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mpspey7q3681klhguq1dg/Brett-interview.docx?dl=0&rlkey=3vqy9ppj6w293cymbjtwq61io

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwats5y2m24au2r/Episode%20-%20Brett%20Collins.pdf?dl=0

Hey You!

Hope I didn't offend, but I think slowing down your delivery would improve listenability in future, despite your broad accent... although nowhere near as bad as Stephen Graham's dire effort as Taff Jones in the WHF TV drama series.

You were lucky to get your hands on Brett Collins after he did a runner from his scheduled TV interview last year.

And thanks for the transcript link... very helpful.

[KayPage1990]

Haha. No, not offended in the slightest haha. I always suspected my accent would be there :p

Oh boy, that accent haha. I've never understood why they don't use use actual Welsh actors haha.

Thank you.

[Nicholas]

Hey,

Kay Page here 

I am so sorry about the accent issue. It's one of the curses of being from the Valleys and try as I might, I just can't tone it down. But I'll actually try slowing the speed on next week's episode, I hadn't tried that.

But I am in the process of building the website and eventually there'll be transcripts for each episode there.

Let me know if anyone has any questions about this too :)

Hey Kay,

Thanks for this.

I’ve long suspected the Greave sisters know more than they’ve ever let on.

According to Anji Greaves Sun interview (29th Oct 1986)

‘Bamber’s lust for her also led to his downfall. For it aroused jealous hatred in his scorned former girlfriend Julie Mugford’

I don’t think Julie was jealous of the sisters - I think she was waking up to Bamber’s con

Plus his ‘triangulation’ of her & the Greave sisters (And others) were/are all part of his psychopathy https://neuroinstincts.com/triangulation-targets-and-stimulation/

Was Brett Collins confirming Bamber was sleeping with both sisters at the time - or having ‘affairs’ with both? It comes across like this but difficult to decipher because of how he describes it

I thought your delivery was really good by the way - Although Brett sounded as though he was either confused about some events or didn’t want to commit himself.

I’m also of the view he too may know more but may be fearful of repeating things now having chosen to not tell the police all those years ago?!

[Nicholas]

Time for Bamber to explain the Anji and Virginia Greaves story (Approx 44:36) http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9666.msg589764#msg589764

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=17.msg592161#msg592161

The following disingenuous excerpt is from Bamber’s ‘official’ website https://jeremybamber.org/jeremy-bamber/

‘Jeremy wanted to be with another woman called Virginia whom he had known for some time. He turned to Virginia for comfort away from Julie’s violent tantrums and demands. [9] Julie was becoming more and more difficult and resented Brett Collins being around and suspected that they were lovers.

According to Brett Collins he and Bamber were ‘lovers’ or at least had a sexual relationship/liaison with each other

And it now seems Bamber couldn’t be with Virginia Greaves because she was apparently due to marry someone else in a matter of weeks

And he was also in a relationship with Anji Greaves

Brett also says during the interview he didn’t have a clue about antiques - or words to that effect - so the following (Which was once posted on Bamber’s official website) is wrong

Who’s the author of this https://jeremybamber.org/jeremy-bamber/ ?

Coping with the tragedies at White House Farm

Brett had said he was experienced in the sale of antiques and together with Jeremy they took some valuables to Sotheby’s for auction to raise funds to help with the impending death duties much to the horror of the relatives. During the period before he was charged with the murders Jeremy Bamber had twice headed overseas rejecting what had happened and feeling distressed at the constant press intrusion into his life.

Whoever wrote and published the above ⬆️ (Copy of blog in full here http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8088.msg590546#msg590546)
also made the claim ‘His arrest and high media profile prompted his new love Virginia to turn her back on him’

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8088.msg590564#msg590564

But Virginia Greaves was apparently getting married to someone else.... suspect there’s much more to this story

[KayPage1990]

There were a few things that Brett seemed to misunderstand or not want to commit himself to.

E.g. he had no idea about the images of Shiela, which seems hard to believe and that he had no understanding of antiques but on that front he could have been playing a part essentially, wanting to sound like he knew more.

Yes, I believed Brett in relation to the sisters because he actually spoke about that a few times in different ways and stick to the same story.

I do think he probably knew more or at least had his own doubts.

[Nicholas]

There were a few things that Brett seemed to misunderstand or not want to commit himself to.

E.g. he had no idea about the images of Shiela, which seems hard to believe and that he had no understanding of antiques but on that front he could have been playing a part essentially, wanting to sound like he knew more.

Yes, I believed Brett in relation to the sisters because he actually spoke about that a few times in different ways and stick to the same story.

I do think he probably knew more or at least had his own doubts.

Yes I picked up on him saying he had no idea about the ‘images of Sheila’ - thing is it can be difficult figuring out who said what and when

Journalist Roger Wilkes stated in his book ‘Blood Relations’

‘Virginia Greaves, who used to go out with Mike Deckers of the Frog and Beans. Jeremy also told Charles Marsden that he and Brett were going to sell Bourtree Cottage and move to Sheila's flat in Maida Vale.  Virginia would move in too, Jeremy added.

How was Virginia moving in with Bamber if she was due to marry someone else?

Plus Anji Greaves made claim Bamber had proposed to her

But Bamber was claiming to Charles Marsden, & journalist Roger Wilkes it seems, Virginia Greaves would be moving in with him and Brett Collins?

[KayPage1990]

Here are the transcripts again:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz3kitv4d4xsh5i/Brett%20interview.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/11mghhbs3afi32m/Episode%20-%20Brett%20Collins.pdf?dl=0

[Nicholas]

Here are the transcripts again:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cz3kitv4d4xsh5i/Brett%20interview.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/11mghhbs3afi32m/Episode%20-%20Brett%20Collins.pdf?dl=0

Thanks!

Brett Collins on Virginia and Angela (Anji) Greaves - 2021
‘A girlfriend of his, an elder sister, we rang around a lot of lawyers to see if there was anyone who would take it on because it was a high profile case for free because we had no money to pay for it expensive lawyers and we got one.
The lady that came with me and we found the lawyer for Jeremy. What turned out was that her younger sister was having an affair at the same time with Jeremy and she's the girl that was in London with us at his sister's flat when she'd died and been buried. She answered the phone one day and it was Julie ringing to talk to him and the mistress answered the phone and that’s what set the whole thing for him.

About two weeks after this happening, the murders, she was about to get married to some guy she was engaged to but all that time she'd been having an affair with Jeremy. But they wanted to keep it from the press. So nobody actually knows about this until now.

I knew her through Jeremy and I knew her younger sister because she came and stayed with us in London in the townhouse. She posed as Jeremy's sort of other girlfriend but it wasn't her it at all it was her younger sister and they all went to ground just so that they wouldn't bring any heat on the sister that who was getting married’

[Nicholas]

Brett Collins states during the podcast, ‘Jeremys actually bisexual and he could swing both ways depending on what mood he was in’

Yet Bamber’s ‘official’ website still appears to be in denial over this fact


‘It is important to look at the Bamber case against the background of these cultural and social values.  Let us note that Jeremy Bamber had homosexual friends, as much as you or I would in today’s society, and thus it was speculated that he was bisexual.’
https://jeremybamber.org/the-inheritance-issue/

More from Brett Collins
‘Originally there was more to our friendship when I first met him because I was bisexual also, and we just hit it off, way before I have met his girlfriend. His girlfriend and he weren’t actually what you’d call monogamous friendship. He had several girls at the same time, that all thought that they were his girlfriend. He was quite different in his sexuality.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/11mghhbs3afi32m/Episode%20-%20Brett%20Collins.pdf?dl=0

[Nicholas]

Brett Collins states during the podcast, ‘Jeremys actually bisexual and he could swing both ways depending on what mood he was in’

https://www.dropbox.com/s/11mghhbs3afi32m/Episode%20-%20Brett%20Collins.pdf?dl=0

Wonder if Brett Collins knew anything about Jeff

“.....New Zealand and there had some type of homosexual relationship with a man named Jeff it is also at this time that he met Brett Collins.” (sic) https://jeremybamber.org/the-inheritance-issue/

and didn’t he tell police he hadn’t had a sexual relationship with Bamber

‘Brett told police in a statement that although he was homosexual he had never had a sexual relationship with Jeremy, while Jeremy himself denied anything other than a close, affectionate friendship with Collins https://jeremybamber.org/the-inheritance-issue/

‘Originally there was more to our friendship when I first met him because I was bisexual also
https://www.dropbox.com/s/11mghhbs3afi32m/Episode%20-%20Brett%20Collins.pdf?dl=0

[Caroline]

Hey You!

Hope I didn't offend, but I think slowing down your delivery would improve listenability in future, despite your broad accent... although nowhere near as bad as Stephen Graham's dire effort as Taff Jones in the WHF TV drama series.

You were lucky to get your hands on Brett Collins after he did a runner from his scheduled TV interview last year.

And thanks for the transcript link... very helpful.

Have you managed to pull your foot out of your mouth yet?