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Offline Mrs. B

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #405 on: June 13, 2013, 09:11:53 PM »
photoshopped pics of LC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECFa07sToZg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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LOL Not that I have found. The problem with those "sources" is that you can't trust a word they say, as they've proven to be liars on several occasions.

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #406 on: June 13, 2013, 09:16:28 PM »
LOL Not that I have found. The problem with those "sources" is that you can't trust a word they say, as they've proven to be liars on several occasions.

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Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #407 on: June 13, 2013, 09:20:57 PM »
YouDO need to learn to address facts and not people if you want to get to the truth
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #409 on: June 13, 2013, 11:04:02 PM »
photoshopped pics of LC?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECFa07sToZg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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The photographic expert at her torture trial said exactly the same thing.
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
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Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #410 on: June 13, 2013, 11:14:48 PM »
The fact that  Joana's mother was feckless and inadequate,  and that the family were dysfunctional in the extreme has nothing to do with the appalling treatment meted out by the police  ...  it does, though,  give us some insight into the unstable,  and uncaring family  life little Joanna endured,  that may eventually have lead to her brutal murder

There is no sign of anything unhappy in her life.  Just the words of Amaral. or whoever he diredted to write this report
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Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #411 on: June 13, 2013, 11:16:43 PM »
So what? If less than a handful of posters out of thousand said that, so what? I know what, it means its a cowardly weapon used by YOU and your cohorts  to taint every single person that doubts, pathetic at e very very best
It is you,  Red, that doubts what probably from the lack of evidence, IS THE TRUTH.
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Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #412 on: June 13, 2013, 11:24:18 PM »
Still evading by the bucket load mrs beeeeee, why did they not report their 8 yr old child missing before the next day????? Would YOU wait overnight to do it mrs beeee?
Why tell porkies Red?  More myths being produced

It is reported on here that Joana, was reported, being missing after midnight, and before 1am.

That was less than five hours after she set off on her errand for her Mum and she could well have been at a relatives or a friends house for the early period.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2013, 11:42:03 PM by sadie »
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #413 on: August 29, 2014, 11:52:46 PM »
The provenance of the photographs is shaky to say the least. At least one witness at Amaral's trial questioned their authenticity.

BTW sadie how many Portuguesr suspects have died in police custody ?
« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 01:36:07 PM by John »
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #414 on: August 30, 2014, 12:07:41 AM »
The provenance of the photographs is shaky to say the least. At least one witness at Amaral's trial questioned their authenticity.

BTW sadie how many Portuguesr suspects have died in police custody ?
Faith I delberately didn't show the photographs that were amended by the defence in Amarala and the other 5 alleged torturers trial.


But I can remember seeing the photos of the tortured Leonor before Amarals defence team got at them with alterations.  The judge also must have seen the originals because s/he didn't believe thta they had been altered by Leonors team at all.

Anyway I will show them now

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/leonorfotos.jpg



My memory is that the early photos before PJ defence team alterations was nearer the RH photo than any of the others.


Now an original photo in close up

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:NQ2j2emQDN5ymM:



I wonder if her boobs were attacked as well?  Sadists.  I hate them for that.
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Offline Faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #415 on: August 30, 2014, 12:12:58 AM »
Faith I delberately didn't show the photographs that were amended by the defence in Amarala and the other 5 alleged torturers trial.


But I can remember seeing the photos of the tortured Leonor before Amarals defence team got at them with alterations.  The judge also must have seen the originals because s/he didn't believe thta they had been altered by Leonors team at all.

Anyway I will show them now

http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/leonorfotos.jpg



My memory is that the early photos before PJ defence team alterations was nearer the RH photo than any of the others.


Now an original photo in close up

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:NQ2j2emQDN5ymM:



I wonder if her boobs were attacked as well?  Sadists.  I hate them for that.

The provenance of the photographs is questionable so nothing they show should be taken at face value.

As to your last sentence all I can say is what a bizarre and unnecessary addition to your post. Most odd !
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline Faithlilly

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #416 on: August 30, 2014, 12:14:48 AM »
But they all treated Leonor very well, because they believed, as I do, that she had been fitted up with a crime that she didn't commit.

Not according to one of Cipriano's fellow prisoners who gave evidence.
Moral Guilt
Detractors of the work of our British Police in bringing criminals to justice generally ignore the important distinction between moral proof and legal evidence of guilt. In not a few cases that are popularly classed with 'unsolved mysteries of crime,' the offender is known, but evidence is wanting. If, for example, in- a recent murder case of special notoriety and interest,* certain human remains had not been found in a cellar, a great crime would have been catalogued among `Police failures'; and yet, even without the evidence which sent the murderer to the gallows, the moral proof of his guilt would have been full and clear.
Robert Anderson

Offline davel

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #417 on: August 30, 2014, 08:08:24 AM »
The court accepted she was beaten whilst in custody of the PJ..

If she was beaten by inmates why did the Pj claim she had fallen down the stairs. the evidence is overwhelming that she was beaten by the pj and your refusal to accept that fact undermines the credibility of your beliefs.Perhaps if you realised what was true and what was fault you would realise that the mccanns are innocent
« Last Edit: September 02, 2014, 01:39:42 PM by John »

Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #418 on: September 06, 2014, 11:47:40 PM »
The provenance of the photographs is questionable so nothing they show should be taken at face value.

As to your last sentence all I can say is what a bizarre and unnecessary addition to your post. Most odd !
I see that my responce was whooshed.

I responded that I hope her boobs were not beaten as it could cause breast cancer in later life.

now why was that whooshed?
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Offline sadie

Re: The beating and conviction of Leonor Cipriano
« Reply #419 on: September 07, 2014, 12:01:22 AM »
I see that the photos tbat I posted showing Leonors facial torture have been whooshed as well
... And I wonder why?

Does this forum want to hide the atrocities that happened in the Leonor case?

I am reposting the photos plus a couple more.  Please leave them up. 

Readers have the rights to see both sides of the Joana case .... not just the Pr0-Amaral stance.


http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/Cipriano3.jpg


http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/leonorexpressopics2.jpg


http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/leonorexpressopics3.jpg


http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/leonorexpressopics4.jpg


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