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Offline Faithlilly

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" Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« on: April 11, 2013, 04:58:35 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?
'The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants.
'There is therefore a significant, and not merely a semantic difference, between the legally admissible foundations of the archive ruling.
'It doesn't therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.'

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 05:02:38 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 05:12:54 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.

Kate seems to think it has everything if I remember correctly.

And asking a question of the forum members is [ censored word ] now is it or is it simply you have now satisfactory answer ?
'The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants.
'There is therefore a significant, and not merely a semantic difference, between the legally admissible foundations of the archive ruling.
'It doesn't therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.'

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2013, 05:18:40 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.

Kate seems to think it has everything if I remember correctly.

And asking a question of the forum members is [ censored word ] now is it or is it simply you have now satisfactory answer ?

Asking stupid insulting questions aimed at criticising their childcare is [ censored word ]. It has nothing to do with senisible debate and is only aimed at putting the McCanns in a bad light.

It is a bit sad and makes you look like a spiteful idiot.

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2013, 06:04:02 PM »
@ debunker

You're right I am criticising their childcare and am asking what other members what they think. It is not stupid or insulting but reasonable in light of the consequences of their lax childcare arrangements.

By leaving their children alone even when they were aware they had woken and been upset the night before, the McCanns needed no help from me to put them in a bad light.  This appalling disregard for their children's piece of mind can never be excused and I assume that's why you are not even trying to but simply deflecting attention by insulting me.
'The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants.
'There is therefore a significant, and not merely a semantic difference, between the legally admissible foundations of the archive ruling.
'It doesn't therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.'

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2013, 06:10:06 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.

Kate seems to think it has everything if I remember correctly.

And asking a question of the forum members is [ censored word ] now is it or is it simply you have now satisfactory answer ?

Asking stupid insulting questions aimed at criticising their childcare is [ censored word ]. It has nothing to do with senisible debate and is only aimed at putting the McCanns in a bad light.

It is a bit sad and makes you look like a spiteful idiot.

The McCann's childcare has everything  to do with this case,  and is unquestionably  relevent to the  debate


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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2013, 06:40:04 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.



Kate seems to think it has everything if I remember correctly.

And asking a question of the forum members is [ censored word ] now is it or is it simply you have now satisfactory answer ?


Asking stupid insulting questions aimed at criticising their childcare is [ censored word ]. It has nothing to do with senisible debate and is only aimed at putting the McCanns in a bad light.

It is a bit sad and makes you look like a spiteful idiot.



The McCann's childcare has everything  to do with this case,  and is unquestionably  relevent to the  debate

HOW?

We know it was not criminal.

Everything else is a matter of opinion rather than fact.

Maybe we should insist that all stupid opinion posts should have IMHO in front.

icabodcrane

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 07:07:59 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.



Kate seems to think it has everything if I remember correctly.

And asking a question of the forum members is [ censored word ] now is it or is it simply you have now satisfactory answer ?


Asking stupid insulting questions aimed at criticising their childcare is [ censored word ]. It has nothing to do with senisible debate and is only aimed at putting the McCanns in a bad light.

It is a bit sad and makes you look like a spiteful idiot.



The McCann's childcare has everything  to do with this case,  and is unquestionably  relevent to the  debate

HOW?

We know it was not criminal.

Everything else is a matter of opinion rather than fact.

Maybe we should insist that all stupid opinion posts should have IMHO in front.

This particular aspect of the McCann's childcare  ( choosing to leave their children alone again that night,  despite Madeleine having told them  that she and Sean had been crying for them  the night before  )  is of paticular relevence because it highlights Kate McCann's lack of  ...  well,  let's say  'candour' 

She claimed that Madeleine  'moved on'  straight after asking the question ...  and that she and Gerry  would never have thought about it again if Madeleine hadn't been abducted

Except that wasn't true

Almost immediately after sitting down at the tapas bar that night she  told her holiday companions what Madeleine had said about crying the night before.  Whilst she was having this conversation,   Madeleine and the twins were alone in the apartment

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 07:14:38 PM »
Would any caring parent who truly had the best interests of their child at heart disregard this heart wrenching question and leave their children alone again the next evening ?

And this has WHAT to do with Madeleine's disappearance other than [ censored word ] the McCanns.





Kate seems to think it has everything if I remember correctly.


And asking a question of the forum members is [ censored word ] now is it or is it simply you have now satisfactory answer ?




Asking stupid insulting questions aimed at criticising their childcare is [ censored word ]. It has nothing to do with senisible debate and is only aimed at putting the McCanns in a bad light.

It is a bit sad and makes you look like a spiteful idiot.

P



The McCann's childcare has everything  to do with this case,  and is unquestionably  relevent to the  debate



HOW?

We know it was not criminal.



Everything else is a matter of opinion rather than fact.

Maybe we should insist that all stupid opinion posts should have IMHO in front.



This particular aspect of the McCann's childcare  ( choosing to leave their children alone again that night,  despite Madeleine having told them  that she and Sean had been crying for them  the night before  )  is of paticular relevence because it highlights Kate McCann's lack of  ...  well,  let's say  'candour' 

She claimed that Madeleine  'moved on'  straight after asking the question ...  and that she and Gerry  would never have thought about it again if Madeleine hadn't been abducted


Except that wasn't true

Almost immediately after sitting down at the tapas bar that night she  told her holiday companions what Madeleine had said about crying the night before.  Whilst she was having this conversation,   Madeleine and the twins were alone in the apartment

SO.

Just makes you a nosy parker.

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 07:17:55 PM »
@ icabodcrane

Quite so but aren't we lead to believe the McCanns are as honest as the day is long ? Can we really believe a word they say once they have proven, by their own words, to be dishonest ?
'The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants.
'There is therefore a significant, and not merely a semantic difference, between the legally admissible foundations of the archive ruling.
'It doesn't therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.'

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 07:51:29 PM »
@ debunker

Child welfare is everyone's concern and besides if Kate didn't want us to discuss it she shouldn't have brought it to our attention.

Now reading the above don't you think Kate was rather economical with the truth ?
'The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants.
'There is therefore a significant, and not merely a semantic difference, between the legally admissible foundations of the archive ruling.
'It doesn't therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.'

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 07:53:36 PM »
@ icabodcrane

Quite so but aren't we lead to believe the McCanns are as honest as the day is long ? Can we really believe a word they say once they have proven, by their own words, to be dishonest ?
I don't doubt the McCann are loving parents, but they totally lack of imagination. Madeleine delicately revealed she knew they left at night. They could have told where, but they didn't. It is possible that she decided to find out, because she was scared.

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2013, 06:35:23 AM »
@ debunker

Child welfare is everyone's concern and besides if Kate didn't want us to discuss it she shouldn't have brought it to our attention.

Now reading the above don't you think Kate was rather economical with the truth ?

In general terms child welfare is everyone's concern. What people here are doing is invading privacy as a hobby.
Maybe I should start a thread using your real name discussing your sexual preferences and whether they are moral. I am sure there are many you would think you were perverted. Sexual Morality is everyone's concern after all.

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2013, 08:49:47 AM »
@ debunker

Child welfare is everyone's concern and besides if Kate didn't want us to discuss it she shouldn't have brought it to our attention.

Now reading the above don't you think Kate was rather economical with the truth ?

In general terms child welfare is everyone's concern. What people here are doing is invading privacy as a hobby.
Maybe I should start a thread using your real name discussing your sexual preferences and whether they are moral. I am sure there are many you would think you were perverted. Sexual Morality is everyone's concern after all.



The above post has been modified by Admin, possibly on the request of faithlilly.

It originally included two references to sex acts.

It seems someone is happy for all sorts of calumny be committed against a private family under their real name, but mentioning speculation about an anonymous person hiding behind a screen name is so now offensive.

This seems a little strange.

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Re: " Why Didn't You Come Last Night When Sean and I Cried ? "
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2013, 12:02:04 PM »
@ debunker

I didn't have the post modified because I didn't read it. Admin seems to have thought it was inappropriate all by himself/herself.

You can make no judgement on what I do in my private life because I have kept it just that, private. Kate however has not and has, in fact invited discussion.

Kate has claimed that she had absolute faith that her children were safe in the unlocked apartment yet at least two of her friends say otherwise and that she voiced those concerns on the Thursday night and thus she has brought into question her whole credibility.

 Not only did she disregard here daughters's heart wrenching question, she also disregarded her own inner voice which questioned the safety of her actions and all for a glass of wine and a catch up with her mates.
'The archiving of the case was determined by the fact that public prosecutors hadn't managed to obtain sufficient evidence of the practice of crimes by the appellants.
'There is therefore a significant, and not merely a semantic difference, between the legally admissible foundations of the archive ruling.
'It doesn't therefore seem acceptable that the ruling, based on the insufficiency of evidence, should be equated to proof of innocence.'