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Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« on: April 27, 2013, 09:08:21 PM »
I know that the McCanns were made Arguidos largely because of the dog evidence,  but why was Murat held in suspiscion by the police ? 
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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2013, 09:14:10 PM »
The Mirror journalist Lori Cambell played a large part.

She felt that much of his behaviour mirrored that of Huntley.

There is a quite brilliant article about Murat by the journalist Matthew Parris.
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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2013, 09:26:07 PM »
See C here


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

Thanks Redblossom

So it was the Leicester police who brought Murat to the attention of the PJ ...  and they did it just two days after Madeleine disappeared

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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2013, 09:50:52 PM »
Agree, it was quick


The PJ received a memo or fax on the Sunday 6th May detailing Lori Campbells suspicions

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LORRI-CAMPBELL.htm

Lori  she had her suspicions by the Monday 7th May so passed them on

Time travel?

She also reckons the police told her when she asked them, as Murat had told her he worked as a police translator, it was unlikely, which is untrue,he was, as evidenced by him doing a tonne of translations for the PJ




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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2013, 10:02:10 PM »
Agree, it was quick


The PJ received a memo or fax on the Sunday 6th May detailing Lori Campbells suspicions

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LORRI-CAMPBELL.htm

Lori  she had her suspicions by the Monday 7th May so passed them on

Time travel?

She also reckons the police told her when she asked them, as Murat had told her he worked as a police translator, it was unlikely, which is untrue,he was, as evidenced by him doing a tonne of translations for the PJ



So she was on the ground in Portugal,  yet chose to pass her concerns to Leicester police force rather than the Portuguese police who were investigating ?

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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 10:13:55 PM »
Seems so
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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 10:26:03 PM »
Seems Lori Campbell wasn't the only one though, is she?

Don't forget the disgusting things Amaral wrote in his book, about Murat, which he received in 2007, from an old friend of Murats.

And this.

02-Processos Volume II  PJ Record 8th May 2007

At about 20.00 the police received a phone call from a number that could not be identified, from a person with a female voice speaking in correct Portuguese, who did not want to be identified for reasons of safety. She refers to an individual who abducted Madeleine, who knows how to keep quiet and is quite close to the police. When asked who she was referring to she said it was an individual who resides in Praia da Luz, who has an English mother, who speaks this language very well, who was near the area since the disappearance of the little girl, supposedly with the intention of helping the investigation. She said this man was called Robert and that he used to consult Internet chats of a pretty heavy sexual nature. He would also use Internet for contacts with different acquaintances he had in other countries, especially in the UK. She said most of the mails he sent were encrypted due to the monitoring of the kind of content they possessed. This is why she wanted to alert the authorities about the characteristics of this man, who, in her opinion, could have sexual motives and opportunity, knowing the area perfectly for committing or collaborating in this type of crime.
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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 10:45:50 PM »
DCI Amaral was writing on the investigation and its details, what other people had reported, not what HE thought,  not speculating like Lori Campbell and others did that he was a child killer


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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2013, 10:54:06 PM »
Seems Lori Campbell wasn't the only one though, is she?

Don't forget the disgusting things Amaral wrote in his book, about Murat, which he received in 2007, from an old friend of Murats.

And this.

02-Processos Volume II  PJ Record 8th May 2007

At about 20.00 the police received a phone call from a number that could not be identified, from a person with a female voice speaking in correct Portuguese, who did not want to be identified for reasons of safety. She refers to an individual who abducted Madeleine, who knows how to keep quiet and is quite close to the police. When asked who she was referring to she said it was an individual who resides in Praia da Luz, who has an English mother, who speaks this language very well, who was near the area since the disappearance of the little girl, supposedly with the intention of helping the investigation. She said this man was called Robert and that he used to consult Internet chats of a pretty heavy sexual nature. He would also use Internet for contacts with different acquaintances he had in other countries, especially in the UK. She said most of the mails he sent were encrypted due to the monitoring of the kind of content they possessed. This is why she wanted to alert the authorities about the characteristics of this man, who, in her opinion, could have sexual motives and opportunity, knowing the area perfectly for committing or collaborating in this type of crime.

That sounds a bit alarming !

I suppose it must have been investigated and dismissed though,  given that the Prosecutor found no evidence that he was involved in any crime

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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2013, 10:57:11 PM »
DCI Amaral was writing on the investigation and its details, what other people had reported, not what HE thought,  not speculating like Lori Campbell and others did that he was a child killer


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So the Portuguese womans statement on the 8th May 2007, is not speculating? 8)-)))

Sounds far worse than Lori Campbells speculation. And she didn't speculate that he was a child killer.

You do realise you have just defamed Lori Campbell? .

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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2013, 10:58:23 PM »
Seems Lori Campbell wasn't the only one though, is she?

Don't forget the disgusting things Amaral wrote in his book, about Murat, which he received in 2007, from an old friend of Murats.

And this.

02-Processos Volume II  PJ Record 8th May 2007

At about 20.00 the police received a phone call from a number that could not be identified, from a person with a female voice speaking in correct Portuguese, who did not want to be identified for reasons of safety. She refers to an individual who abducted Madeleine, who knows how to keep quiet and is quite close to the police. When asked who she was referring to she said it was an individual who resides in Praia da Luz, who has an English mother, who speaks this language very well, who was near the area since the disappearance of the little girl, supposedly with the intention of helping the investigation. She said this man was called Robert and that he used to consult Internet chats of a pretty heavy sexual nature. He would also use Internet for contacts with different acquaintances he had in other countries, especially in the UK. She said most of the mails he sent were encrypted due to the monitoring of the kind of content they possessed. This is why she wanted to alert the authorities about the characteristics of this man, who, in her opinion, could have sexual motives and opportunity, knowing the area perfectly for committing or collaborating in this type of crime.

That sounds a bit alarming !

I suppose it must have been investigated and dismissed though,  given that the Prosecutor found no evidence that he was involved in any crime

It's background information of no direct relevance to the matter under investigation, similar to the stuff about David Payne ...
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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2013, 11:01:49 PM »
DCI Amaral was writing on the investigation and its details, what other people had reported, not what HE thought,  not speculating like Lori Campbell and others did that he was a child killer


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So the Portuguese womans statement on the 8th May 2007, is not speculating? 8)-)))

I said Amaral was REPORTING on things  that happened not that he believed them, or was the cause/originator of things sheesh

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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2013, 11:04:23 PM »
DCI Amaral was writing on the investigation and its details, what other people had reported, not what HE thought,  not speculating like Lori Campbell and others did that he was a child killer


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So the Portuguese womans statement on the 8th May 2007, is not speculating? 8)-)))

I said Amaral was REPORTING on things  that happened not that he believed them, or was the cause od them,sheesh

He must have believed them, he put both in his book, 12 months later.
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Re: Why Robert Murat became a suspect and then an arguido.
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2013, 11:06:23 PM »
DCI Amaral was writing on the investigation and its details, what other people had reported, not what HE thought,  not speculating like Lori Campbell and others did that he was a child killer


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So the Portuguese womans statement on the 8th May 2007, is not speculating? 8)-)))

Couple of crucial distinctions, there.  I've never had a problem with Lori Cambell reporting her suspicions. 

I did (do) have a huge problem with her splashing what she suspected over the pages of her newspaper.

And with Amaral, you only have to look at what a distorted meal he made of the Payne episode in his book to see how he misuses information ...
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