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Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« on: April 13, 2012, 05:17:46 PM »
As requested here are a sample of photos relating to the so-called burn marks on Nevill's back.










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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 05:25:59 PM »
Thanks John. 3 completely different marks then?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 05:33:33 PM »
Thanks John. 3 completely different marks then?

I haven't studied them yet but yes, definitely three different marks.

Reminds me more of gouges from a sharp object like a damaged rifle stock.  I wonder did they bleed since these photos would have been the cleaned up version. What do you think?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 05:43:47 PM »
very difficult to tell from these pictures. If I hadn't have read that these are burn marks, I could think that the 2 smaller ones were moles?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 05:47:02 PM »
I wonder what could have hit neville when he was toppled from his chair onto the floor before being perched in the coal scuttle?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 05:50:35 PM »
very difficult to tell from these pictures. If I hadn't have read that these are burn marks, I could think that the 2 smaller ones were moles?

The marks are certainly not consistent with the end of a rifle being pushed into ones back.  In any event, the rifle failed to get anywhere near the temperatures associated with such burns and that is fact.  Even Simon McKay had no answer to that one.

Could a lighted cigarette create such marks?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 05:56:11 PM »
Does anybody know where on Ralph´s back those marks are?

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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 06:04:16 PM »

I thought he was found with a pyjama top on as well.


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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2012, 06:04:43 PM »
very difficult to tell from these pictures. If I hadn't have read that these are burn marks, I could think that the 2 smaller ones were moles?

The marks are certainly not consistent with the end of a rifle being pushed into ones back.  In any event, the rifle failed to get anywhere near the temperatures associated with such burns and that is fact.  Even Simon McKay had no answer to that one

Could a lighted cigarette create such marks?

remember that photo of macdonald coming out of court?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2012, 06:29:27 PM »
Could that other forum BE more boring? They've been yacking all day and got precisely nowhere. Don't these people work for a living?
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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2012, 06:37:38 PM »
Also weren't his pyjama bottoms partially pulled down?

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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2012, 07:11:02 PM »
Also weren't his pyjama bottoms partially pulled down?

They could have slid down (can you say that in English?) during the altercation, no one knows.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2012, 10:03:31 PM »
Also weren't his pyjama bottoms partially pulled down?

They could have slid down (can you say that in English?) during the altercation, no one knows.

Slid down is fine Abs .... the burn marks I understand were high on the back close to the neck.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2012, 10:03:40 AM »
very difficult to tell from these pictures. If I hadn't have read that these are burn marks, I could think that the 2 smaller ones were moles?

The marks are certainly not consistent with the end of a rifle being pushed into ones back.  In any event, the rifle failed to get anywhere near the temperatures associated with such burns and that is fact.  Even Simon McKay had no answer to that one.

Could a lighted cigarette create such marks?

I would say so, yes. Because the photos of Neville's back are black and white you can't really tell what colour the middle part of the largest wound is, but I've seen cigarette burns which have a lighter coloured moulten looking centre, and a darker outer rim.

One thing I've been wondering though, is where the theoretical temperature of 200 degrees comes from. Human skin will burn at much lower temperatures than that.

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Re: Jeremy Bamber - The three burn marks on Nevill's back
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2012, 09:40:28 PM »
A thought occurs that if Jeremy was telling the truth and Nevill was still alive at just after 3am, how come when Nevill was found there were clear signs of advanced rigor mortis? He could only have been dead for a bit more than 4 hours by this time, would rigor mortis be so clearly visible after such a relatively short amount of time? At Tesko Towers they explain this by saying rigor mortis was sped up by the heat from the Aga. The Aga seems pretty pivotal to the defence doesn't it?