Author Topic: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.  (Read 47844 times)

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Offline sadie

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2013, 03:31:58 PM »
carana, i dont read portuguese and  im sure 90 per cent of posters here dont either so please......ta
There is always Google translate Red

We have to use that for your PT language posts.


But I see Carana has translated a good few of them for you.

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Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 03:47:21 PM »
There is always Google translate Red

We have to use that for your PT language posts.


But I see Carana has translated a good few of them for you.

Must be confusing me with someone else dear.....
 8((()*/

Offline sadie

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2013, 08:14:58 PM »
Must be confusing me with someone else dear.....
 8((()*/
I am not so sure of that dear

But I aint wasting the time looking  8**8:/:

Offline Carana

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2013, 10:05:58 PM »
Why are you referring to appeal court documents Carana when you should be referring to the daily reports from the actual trial?

You have to go back to the trial as I have done if you ever going to understand this case.  Being able to translate Portuguese is a prerequisite of course.

I had another read of what you'd posted on this thread, which I presume came from press reports. They don't seem very balanced to me.

For example, there is a mention of the shopkeeper and whoever else who found her calm that night, but there's no mention of the witnesses who found her anxious and crying later that morning.

There's no mention of the phone calls to the extended family to see if she could be with them, nor the fact that she went to Joana's father's house to see if she could be there...

Offline Carana

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2013, 10:27:50 PM »
These reports mention some witness saying that she was treated like "Cinderella", but they don't mention all the witnesses who say that had never seen Leonor being aggressive towards her.

Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2013, 02:33:11 PM »
Well done Carana  8((()*/

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Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2013, 02:59:59 PM »
part2
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― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2013, 03:56:05 PM »
13 oct 2005 CM
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Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2013, 04:21:30 PM »
Part 4
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“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2013, 04:48:36 PM »
AGAIN I APOLOGISE IF THE TRANSLATION IS AT FAULT
Part 5
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“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2013, 05:04:28 PM »
AGAIN I APOLOGISE IF THE TRANSLATION IS AT FAULT
part 6

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“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2013, 05:43:22 PM »
Part 7
AGAIN I APOLOGISE IF THE TRANSLATION IS AT FAULT IN ANY WAY


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― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2013, 05:49:14 PM »
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Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2013, 06:05:32 PM »
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Offline Anna

Re: The trial of Leonor and Joćo Cipriano for the murder of Joana.
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2013, 06:17:46 PM »
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“You should not honour men more than truth.”
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