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Offline Sherlock Holmes

The corrupt Scottish Justice System
« on: December 15, 2013, 07:52:26 PM »
http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/scotland-s-unique-15-strong-juries-will-not-be-abolished-1-1037747


This is a topic that fascinates me as I grew up in Edinburgh and prior to moving overseas had a number of professional and social connections in the legal fraternity.

It is a notoriously closed community which holds on to a lot of legal and social traditions for which, by members' own admission,  there is often no basis - the jury set -up being one of these. 

From what I have been given to understand for many years, there is absolutely no impetus from within the community for change as regards the controversial jury regulations, any more than there is any impetus for change in any other part of the legal system. Only a few individuals here and there are prepared to discuss openly the [ censored word ] and cons.

As can be noted from the article above, Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill states that the 8-7 situation obviates the need for excessive retrials, saving the country both time and money. This, he claims, is evidence of a 'pretty efficient system'.

A startling and unthinking admission  by a government minister that the rights and needs of individuals at trial are sublimated to the demands of the Scottish Executive. What he has described is not efficiency but expediency - and that means a kangaroo court.

Offline Joanne

Re: The corrupt Scottish Justice System
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 06:53:52 AM »
A while ago I spoke (at length) with Peter Hill from Rough justice, I'd not been interested in miscarriages for long at that point and I was asked whether I could help in the Luke Mitchell case, I didn't have enough knowledge and/or experience then by any means (and I probably don't now either) but then Mr Hill commented that he'd probably have to ask someone from Scotland with knowledge of their judicial system, it not being the same as England and Wales and they're not very keen on people from outside Scotland being involved in their legal system anyway,
He's a fascinating bloke, wealth of information and the site linked to the programme is extremely good too.

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: The corrupt Scottish Justice System
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 03:54:17 AM »
A while ago I spoke (at length) with Peter Hill from Rough justice, I'd not been interested in miscarriages for long at that point and I was asked whether I could help in the Luke Mitchell case, I didn't have enough knowledge and/or experience then by any means (and I probably don't now either) but then Mr Hill commented that he'd probably have to ask someone from Scotland with knowledge of their judicial system, it not being the same as England and Wales and they're not very keen on people from outside Scotland being involved in their legal system anyway,
He's a fascinating bloke, wealth of information and the site linked to the programme is extremely good too.

Interesting, Joanne. I'll have a look at the site.

Yes, the Scottish judicial system is very insular and close-knit. All concentrated in one small building (in Parliament Square, Edinburgh). It's a real gentleman's club - there's not much point in asking them to change their rules for the sake of non-members. That's how they see it, anyway.

Offline John

Re: The corrupt Scottish Justice System
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 08:41:17 PM »
Interesting, Joanne. I'll have a look at the site.

Yes, the Scottish judicial system is very insular and close-knit. All concentrated in one small building (in Parliament Square, Edinburgh). It's a real gentleman's club - there's not much point in asking them to change their rules for the sake of non-members. That's how they see it, anyway.

It's a judicial clique of the very worst sort.  The Scottish Justice System is corrupt from the top to the bottom and serves the interest well for those involved in it.  It's not surprising therefore that they don't want to change it in any way. As one leading QC once said to me, its not about justice!!

They resent greatly when on the odd occasion the UK Supreme Court in London has an opportunity to rule against them and their tardy judgements.



http://petercherbi.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/scandalising-judges-laws-to-be-reviewed-in-england-wales-what-now-for-crooked-corrupt-members-of-scotlands-judiciary/

http://holliedemandsjustice.org/content/scotlands-judicial-shame-a-corrupt-justice-system/

http://scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/proposals-announced-to-reform-scotlands.html
« Last Edit: December 20, 2013, 08:48:58 PM by John »
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