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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2015, 06:45:46 PM »
Who does a more important job alfred, a sewage worker or CEO  ?

sewage workers are very easy to find and replace...talented CEOs are far more valuable

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2015, 06:47:34 PM »
Who does a more important job alfred, a sewage worker or CEO  ?
It depends on what you consider important.  Most businesses would consider it important that they are managed and led by a competent individual who ensures the success of the business thus enabling it to pay its employees salaries, its shareholders dividends, enabling  it to grow and expand thus giving work to more people, increased profits to shareholders etc.  Of course all of that is as nothing if the shit's not being managed properly. @)(++(* 

stephen25000

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2015, 06:49:21 PM »
sewage workers are very easy to find and replace...talented CEOs are far more valuable

Well, drop what you're doing and become a sewage worker. 8((()*/

As to talented C.E.O.'s  &%+((£

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2015, 06:51:34 PM »
Who does a more important job alfred, a sewage worker or CEO  ?

Good question Stephen.

It depends of course on whether you have a surfeit of sewage.

Of course sewage workers, bus drivers, health workers, teachers etc are important.

But usually somewhere there will be an organisation - a company, a school, a local authority, putting it all together - the capital, labour and direction.  And at the head of that will be a CEO and a board providing leadership.

Without organisation there would be a bunch of directionless workers.  Without the labour nothing would get done.

However, the skills required to be a good ceo are rarer than those to be a worker, and therefore will often command a higher price.  Basic JMK.

stephen25000

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2015, 06:54:57 PM »
It depends on what you consider important.  Most businesses would consider it important that they are managed and led by a competent individual who ensures the success of the business thus enabling it to pay its employees salaries, its shareholders dividends, enabling  it to grow and expand thus giving work to more people, increased profits to shareholders etc.  Of course all of that is as nothing if the shit's not being managed properly. @)(++(*

Take a look at lists of incompetent C.E.O.'s.

Quite breathtaking.

stephen25000

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2015, 06:56:16 PM »
Good question Stephen.

It depends of course on whether you have a surfeit of sewage.

Of course sewage workers, bus drivers, health workers, teachers etc are important.

But usually somewhere there will be an organisation - a company, a school, a local authority, putting it all together - the capital, labour and direction.  And at the head of that will be a CEO and a board providing leadership.

Without organisation there would be a bunch of directionless workers.  Without the labour nothing would get done.

However, the skills required to be a good ceo are rarer than those to be a worker, and therefore will often command a higher price.  Basic JMK.

Without the workers, the C.E.O. is nothing.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2015, 06:58:30 PM »
Take a look at lists of incompetent C.E.O.'s.

Quite breathtaking.
I repeat - there are good CEOs and there are bad CEOs (though the bad ones will likely get the push when their businesses fail).  I'm sure there are lists of really incompetent sewage workers too, somewhere.  8(0(*

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2015, 06:58:46 PM »
Without the workers, the C.E.O. is nothing.

do you think they should all earn the same Karl

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2015, 06:59:18 PM »
Take a look at lists of incompetent C.E.O.'s.

Quite breathtaking.

Of course there are some incompetent CEOs

But that number is swamped by the number of competent, talented managers who manage effectively and grow their organisations. 

A question - what year did the UK have its highest level of industrial exports (by value inflation adjusted). ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2015, 07:04:03 PM »
Without the workers, the C.E.O. is nothing.

I think the proletariat should start a revolution...they just need an intelligent CEO type to organise it

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2015, 07:04:51 PM »
Without the workers, the C.E.O. is nothing.
without the business, there are no workers.

stephen25000

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2015, 07:07:34 PM »
Are the three of you working in tandem, as stalwarts of the Capitalist system ?

In a country where the National Debt is in excess of £1.5 Trillion.

and the 'real' debt in excess of £4.5 Trillion.

stephen25000

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2015, 07:08:28 PM »
do you think they should all earn the same Karl

My names not Karl, it's Jim. *&*%£

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2015, 07:09:12 PM »
Are the three of you working in tandem, as stalwarts of the Capitalist system ?

In a country where the National Debt is in excess of £1.5 Trillion.

and the 'real' debt in excess of £4.5 Trillion.

do you think we should let the sewer workers handle the economy

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Are some charities really commercial entities?
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2015, 07:15:31 PM »
Are the three of you working in tandem, as stalwarts of the Capitalist system ?

In a country where the National Debt is in excess of £1.5 Trillion.

and the 'real' debt in excess of £4.5 Trillion.
The capitalist system is the only system that really works, unless you can name a better one?