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http://www.news.com.au/national/crime/who-was-the-child-murdered-and-dumped-in-a-suitcase-in-sa/story-fns0kb1g-1227445213766

DETECTIVES hunting the killer of a small child in South Australia are checking cases of missing kids throughout the country, including toddler William Tyrrell.
The child’s body was found on Wednesday just off the Karoonda Highway, 2km west of Wynarka, and 120km southeast from Adelaide.
The suitcase was open with its contents — including the body — found nearby.
An initial check of the missing persons list in South Australia showed there was no child of a similar age missing there, suggesting the child could have come from interstate.
Detectives have begun checking missing child cases elsewhere, including that of NSW toddler William Tyrrell, although there is nothing to suggest yet that it could be the three-year-old, the Daily Telegraph reports.
Major Crime Investigation Branch officer-in-charge Detective Superintendent Des Bray said William was one of many Australian missing children cases being examined for possible leads.
The child’s skeletal remains have been taking to Adelaide for a post-mortem which police hope will reveal more clues as to it’s identity and what killed them — although police are treating the case as murder.
It’s thought the child was aged between two and seven.
Det Supt Bray said: “We can say that we believe the child died elsewhere. We also believe that the child was placed in a suitcase and brought to this location within about a month but the child had even died some time prior to that.”
Two women have told police they saw a clean cut man carrying a suitcase only 2km away from where the body was found.
The man was said to be in his 60s and neatly dressed. It fits the time frame police believe the dark grey suitcase was dumped.
Police have begun a massive search for evidence using forensic experts, local police, volunteers and a drone.
“It (the dark grey suitcase) was right in the open and easily available to be seen,” Det Supt Bray told the Adelaide Advertiser yesterday.
“From investigations we’ve made and from information received from people who have stopped and been able to assist, we now know that suitcase was placed there within the last four to six weeks.”
The person who found it was “drawn to something” on the side of the road looked inside the suitcase and found the remains among the clothes.
“It’s hard to say what happened and why but somebody has found the suitcase, opened it to have a look what’s in there and tipped out the contents and discovered the human remains,” Det-Supt Bray said.
He appealed for anyone with information on the case to come forward.
“Somebody must have knowledge of someone who has a young child and that child has disappeared and is not around,” he said.
Anyone with information is asked to contact CrimeStoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2015, 01:31:09 AM »
Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’



24 July 2015

The girl had fair hair and was aged between two to four when she died, police said.


SKELETAL REMAINS FOUND in a suitcase near a highway are likely a young girl who may have been killed up to eight years ago, Australian police have said, as they struggle to solve the mystery murder.

Detectives called for help from the public a week after the bones were discovered by a passer-by in bushland close to Wynarka, a small town about 130 kilometres southeast of Adelaide.

The girl’s identity is not known and a man aged about 60, seen carrying a suitcase in the area some weeks ago, is being sought by police, Detective Superintendent Des Bray said.

The girl had fair hair and was aged between two to four when she died, Bray said. He added:

    "For reasons I’m not going to disclose we are confident that this child was murdered."

Bray said the girl could have died some years ago as the clothing she was found with, including a black tutu, a pink shoe, a Dora the Explorer purple top and red sports shorts, dated as far back at 2007.

Although police had contacted all missing persons units and homicide squads across the vast country, there was no-one they had a “strong focus on”.

Investigators also did not know where the girl died, but believe she was “killed elsewhere and her remains put into the suitcase and shifted in relatively recent times”, Bray added.

Police said the black suitcase, which had faded to grey by the time it was found, was left behind a bush, and at “some stage” the remains were tipped out and the bag placed in full view of the road. Bray is appealing to the public:

        "We want people to think back into the past, back to 2007 and the years in between, think
        about little girls  like this — who lived near them, played near them, they may be related
        to — and think about where those children are now."

http://www.thejournal.ie/child-skeleton-suitcase-australia-2233987-Jul2015/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3173056/Mystery-man-spotted-suitcase-carrying-skeletal-remains-little-girl-dumped-highway-police-release-mannequin-showing-looked-like.html
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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2015, 02:24:49 AM »
Sick people who would murder a child and stuff them n a suitcase! How sad and tragic.  Life snuffed out before it's had a chance. It is very sad they don,t know who it is. A quick search in Interpol missing persons shows one mssing girl  aged 2 when gone missing in 2008 though in Russia with Australian nationality.Surely they will have checked all that  though.Hope they solve it.Could be anyone. Fact they dont know is ominous as well.

http://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing/2014-39763
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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2015, 11:08:10 AM »
Sick people who would murder a child and stuff them n a suitcase! How sad and tragic.  Life snuffed out before it's had a chance. It is very sad they don,t know who it is. A quick search in Interpol missing persons shows one mssing girl  aged 2 when gone missing in 2008 though in Russia with Australian nationality.Surely they will have checked all that  though.Hope they solve it.Could be anyone. Fact they dont know is ominous as well.

http://www.interpol.int/notice/search/missing/2014-39763

The finding of this little girls remains by a road near Wynarka, South Australia, some 72 miles from Adelaide is bizarre for many reasons not least of which being the similarities to the Madeleine McCann case.  A young fair haired girl between 3 and 4 years of age apparently deceased around April/May 2007.

What really amazes me however is that after only eight years nobody has immediately laid claim to this child?
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2015, 11:23:23 AM »
Wynarka child murder: Top cop dismisses Madeleine McCann speculation as distinctive fabric found with remains identified

The Advertiser
27 July 2015

  • New clue: Distinctive quilt found with remains in suitcase
  • Police believe remains in suitcase was a little girl
  • Post-mortem confirms child met a violent and terrible end
  • Madeleine McCann: The evidence and the theories


POLICE Commissioner Grant Stevens has dismissed speculation that a murdered child found by the side of an SA highway could be the world’s most high-profile missing girl, Madeleine McCann.

Mr Stevens today told a parliamentary estimates committee hearing that “clearly we’re looking at tragic circumstances here”.

“There is absolutely no evidence at this point in time that the child is Madeleine McCann … to suggest something like that at this point in time would purely be speculating to get attention,” he said.

“We are focusing our inquiries on South Australia but we would be considering any potential missing child. Until we ascertain the identity of the child we need to be open to all possibilities.”



Missing since 2007 — English girl Madeleine McCann was snatched from a Portuguese holiday resort. The picture at right is an age-advanced estimation of how she could have looked several years after her disappearance.



Detective Superintendent Des Bray updates media on Wynarka bones investigation.

Earlier, police said fabric used to make a distinctive homemade quilt found with the remains was manufactured in New York about seven years ago.

Major Crime officer in charge Detective Superintendent Des Bray said police wanted to trace the origins of the quilt in a bid to find out how it came to be on the side of the Karoonda Hwy, near Wynarka, in the Murray Mallee.

They have released digital images that identify seven of the quilt’s 25 octagonal patches, which were sown into the quilt. Police hope someone will recognise the quilt.

It was found alongside the remains of what police say was a little girl, aged between two and four when she was violently killed.



The quilt, left, found in the suitcase, with the digital image, left, released by the police today that shows seven patches identified.

Her skeletal remains had been dumped in a suitcase next to the highway up to four months ago.

But her bones had been tipped out of the suitcase when discovered by a passing motorist on July 15.

Det-Supt Bray said it was “more likely than not” that the little girl was never reported missing to authorities.

“It would be impossible to believe that someone didn’t love this little girl,” he said.

“It’s hard to believe someone hasn’t missed her.

“I thought when we started this job that we would quickly identify who this little girl was. “Somewhere out there is a mother, a father, at the very least an extended family that obviously lived near someone and I’m at a loss as to why someone hasn’t reported this little girl."



Detective Superintendent Des Bray with a photo of the musical note fabric used to make a quilt found with child’s remains. Picture: Campbell Brodie.


Det-Supt Bray said the distinctiveness of some of the items, including the quilt and a black tutu, found with the remains would help solve the mystery.

He said police believed some of the quilt fabric — coloured musical notes — was manufactured in New York in about 2008.

“The quilt is really important to the investigation,” he said.

“If we can find out who that quilt was given to or whether it ended up in an op-shop that will take us back to a geographical area.”



The quilt that was handmade specifically for a young child. Picture: SA Police


He said the quilt was homemade using a sewing machine and a polyester material was used to line its inside, which indicated it was made for a child.

Previously, police said the labels, decomposition of fabric and staining of clothes found with the remains indicated she was killed some time after 2007.

It was also likely she had fair hair and was 90-95cm tall when she was killed, police said.

Det-Supt Bray said the little girl was killed in a violent manner.

“We’re certain of how the little girl met her death — why, who and what circumstances, it’s just impossible to tell,” he said.



A mannequin with hair of a similar colour and length, dressed in new versions of items of clothing found with the body, along with suitcase found at the scene.



“It could fit any scenario.”

He said 55 calls had been made to Crime Stoppers about the quilt since police released its image to the Sunday Mail.

“We’ve had about 280 Crime Stopper calls being received in South Australia and across the country,” he said.

“I guess in terms of recent cases that’s unprecedented the number of calls we’re getting.”

Anyone with information about the murder is urged to call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/wynarka-child-murder-top-cop-dismisses-madeleine-mccann-speculation-as-distinctive-fabric-found-with-remains-identified/story-fni6uo1m-1227457660344
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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2015, 11:43:14 AM »
One question, why was this child not on the missing child database?   Sounds extremely iffy to me??
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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2015, 11:51:05 AM »
One question, why was this child not on the missing child database?   Sounds extremely iffy to me??

Two weeks have almost past yet the Australian police appear to be at a loss to answer that question and are struggling to identify her since the finding of the remains on Wednesday 15 July.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2015, 11:53:06 AM »
The child's body was left in a place that it would eventually be found.
I don't think her originally clothing would have been left also.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2015, 12:14:17 PM »
One suggestion has been put forward.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2015, 12:51:00 PM »
One suggestion has been put forward.

If they were moving away, Why would they leave their money and bank accounts untouched?
A Very strange disappearance, which doesn't appear planned by the family.



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Missing: Leela McDougall

A WA family linked to an internet cult who disappeared almost two years ago have not used their bank accounts or contacted relatives, raising fears they have been murdered.

Investigators initially believed that former internet cult leader Englishman Simon Kadwell, 46, Chantelle McDougall, 28, their daughter Leela, eight, and a friend Tony Popic, 42, may have sneaked out of the country to New Zealand before travelling to Rio Branco, a Brazilian city known for its religious cults.

But it is understood the WA Police missing person’s squad has uncovered no evidence that the group have left the country.

They were last seen on July 13, 2007, in Busselton, where they sold a car for $4000 to a local dealer and drove away in a waiting car.

Chantelle’s father, Jim McDougall, said yesterday that his fears for the wellbeing of his daughter and granddaughter were growing by the day.

With Leela featuring in a national missing children’s campaign that started on Monday, he said he still hoped that they would be found.

But he could not understand why Chantelle had not contacted him or his wife Kath in almost two years or how they could survive for such a long time without using their bank accounts.

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The couple, who live in Wodonga, Victoria, have printed 1000 missing person’s flyers featuring photos of Chantelle and Leela and will set off in July on a three-month trip from Victoria to Cape York in Queensland, plastering the posters along the way.

“As every day goes by and I don’t hear from Chantelle it gets a bit harder to keep going,” Mr McDougall said.

“She was very close to both me and her mother so to not have heard from her for almost two years does make us very worried for her and Leela.

“It’s always in your mind that something may have happened (to them). I try not to think about it and just hope that we will hear from them soon.”

While living in WA, Mr Kadwell operated a secretive doomsday internet forum called The Gateway. He was called Si in the chat forum, which involved about 40 members around the world, who referred to themselves as “the Forecourt” — a religious reference to the place where believers wait for “judgment day”.

Ms McDougall’s parents have accused Mr Kadwell of brainwashing and seducing their daughter when, as a 17-year-old, she started babysitting for him and his partner, Deborah, in 1998.

The teenager had been introduced to Mr Kadwell and Deborah through friends in Victoria and would follow them to WA, Britain and back. By September 2000, Mr Kadwell, Deborah, their son Daniel and Ms McDougall were living in WA.

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The same year, Ms McDougall, who was pregnant, and Mr Kadwell moved to a rented house in Floreat, where they continued to believe that the planet was on “red alert” and it was time for “awakening servers of the divine plan” to come forward.

Mr Popic moved in with them. With baby Leela, the couple and Mr Popic moved to Denmark. In 2004, the group shifted to Nannup, where Ms McDougall worked at a fish and chip shop and taught swimming, while Mr Popic lived in a caravan at the rear of their property.

Mr McDougall said yesterday that his daughter had told him during their last conversation on the day they disappeared that they were going to live in a small religious community on the outskirts of Rio Branco.

When the owner of their Nannup property went to the house in the days after they left the town, he found a note on the front door which read “Gone to Brazil”.

But given that police had no evidence that they had left the country, Mr McDougall believed that the Brazil trip was probably a cover story. “We were always worried that Simon would take off with Chantelle and Leela one day,” he said. “Simon seemed to have control over Chantelle and she would do whatever he said. All we want to know now is that they are OK and safe. We won’t give up hope.”

Anyone with information about the group should call CrimeStoppers on 1800 333 000.

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The Disappearances Of Chantelle And Leela McDougall

Published on Aug 14, 2013

Internet cult leader Simon Kadwell (aka Gary Felton) and his partner, seven year old daughter, and friend Tony Popic disappeared from the small town of Nannup, Western Australia in 2007. They told friends they were going to Brazil, but immigration have no records of them ever leaving Australia.
This clip originally aired on the Australian Channel 10 show "Wanted" on 12 August 2013 (episode 6).
Simon Kadwell is believed to be a false identity. His real name is believed to be Gary Felton, but is also known as Simon Kadwill and Simon Kaddy. He is the author of "Servers of the Divine Plan" and "The New Call". He ran an internet group called the Truth Fellowship, and a forum called The Gateway. His partner's name is Chantelle McDougall, and Chantelle's daughter is named Leela. Their friend is Anthony / Tony Popic, and may have used the name J Roberts.



The Disappearances Of Chantelle And Leela McDougall

In October 2007, 27-year-old Chantelle McDougall and her six-year-old daughter, Leela, mysteriously vanished from their hometown of Nannup, Australia. At the time, Chantelle was living with her 45-year-old husband, Simon Kadwell, who also went missing without explanation.

Chantelle had gotten involved with Simon when she was still a teenager. At the time, the family lived in a caravan owned by 40-year-old Antonio Popic, who also disappeared. They left everything behind, including their wallets and credit cards. They were last seen selling Chantelle’s vehicle for $4,000, but none of the money in her bank account has ever been touched. However, things took a bizarre turn once investigators started delving into the background of Simon Kadwell.

It turned out he had previously lived in England under his real name, Gary Feldman, and had stolen the identity of another Brit named Simon Kadwell before moving to Australia. He lived under numerous aliases over the years and was the head of a bizarre New Age religious cult. The cult followed the teachings of a doomsday book entitled Servers of the Divine Plan, based around the idea of “servers” taking a specific position on Earth to prepare for the impending apocalypse.

Chantelle McDougall and her daughter were also members of this cult and had cut off all communication with Chantelle’s immediate family. It’s theorized that all four missing individuals traveled to a specific location to prepare for doomsday, but there is no evidence of them ever leaving Australia. They have practically vanished off the face of the Earth and have not been seen for over seven years.

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2015, 05:08:34 PM »
The Disappearances Of Chantelle And Leela McDougall

Published on Aug 14, 2013

Internet cult leader Simon Kadwell (aka Gary Felton) and his partner, seven year old daughter, and friend Tony Popic disappeared from the small town of Nannup, Western Australia in 2007. They told friends they were going to Brazil, but immigration have no records of them ever leaving Australia.
This clip originally aired on the Australian Channel 10 show "Wanted" on 12 August 2013 (episode 6).
Simon Kadwell is believed to be a false identity. His real name is believed to be Gary Felton, but is also known as Simon Kadwill and Simon Kaddy. He is the author of "Servers of the Divine Plan" and "The New Call". He ran an internet group called the Truth Fellowship, and a forum called The Gateway. His partner's name is Chantelle McDougall, and Chantelle's daughter is named Leela. Their friend is Anthony / Tony Popic, and may have used the name J Roberts.



The Disappearances Of Chantelle And Leela McDougall

In October 2007, 27-year-old Chantelle McDougall and her six-year-old daughter, Leela, mysteriously vanished from their hometown of Nannup, Australia. At the time, Chantelle was living with her 45-year-old husband, Simon Kadwell, who also went missing without explanation.

Chantelle had gotten involved with Simon when she was still a teenager. At the time, the family lived in a caravan owned by 40-year-old Antonio Popic, who also disappeared. They left everything behind, including their wallets and credit cards. They were last seen selling Chantelle’s vehicle for $4,000, but none of the money in her bank account has ever been touched. However, things took a bizarre turn once investigators started delving into the background of Simon Kadwell.

It turned out he had previously lived in England under his real name, Gary Feldman, and had stolen the identity of another Brit named Simon Kadwell before moving to Australia. He lived under numerous aliases over the years and was the head of a bizarre New Age religious cult. The cult followed the teachings of a doomsday book entitled Servers of the Divine Plan, based around the idea of “servers” taking a specific position on Earth to prepare for the impending apocalypse.



Thanks John,
What an interesting video and case. I noticed the little girl dancing a lot. I wonder if it could be her. Tutu etc found.
It looks like this guy might have been careless with his mobile phone, or it was stolen.

Chantelle McDougall and her daughter were also members of this cult and had cut off all communication with Chantelle’s immediate family. It’s theorized that all four missing individuals traveled to a specific location to prepare for doomsday, but there is no evidence of them ever leaving Australia. They have practically vanished off the face of the Earth and have not been seen for over seven years.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2015, 05:25:42 PM »
One suggestion has been put forward.

The first article says the child would be between 2 and 7 years old, later ones say between 2 and 4, so conflicting information already.

Assuming  the later reports are more correct, I think there is a big difference between 2-4 and 6-7 which is the age Leela was.

As for the possibility of it being Madelene Mccann, her DNA profile is held by both UK and PT authorities and IIRC you can extract DNA even from skeletal remains. Dental records may also be being checked.

Reminds me of the Baby Grace case and all the speculation.

Horrible state of affairs.

PS One reason the chlld was not reported missing is if the parents were missing too. So that story holds water in that sense at least.