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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2015, 02:20:24 PM »
Australian Police appear to be no further forward in their quest to discover the true identity of the young girl whose bones and clothing were found in and around a suitcase near Wynarka, South Australia.

The township of Wynarka has about eight permanent residents yet a middle aged male stranger seen carrying a suitcase near the highway on several occasions between April and June has never been identified.

An update:


Behind mystery of girl in suitcase at Wynarka, South Australia

Sunday Herald Sun

By Andrew Rule

THE Beaumont children. Truro. The Family. Snowtown. Now there’s Wynarka and the little girl in the suitcase, the latest addition to South Australia’s back-catalogue of horror stories.

Wynarka is a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it collection of houses on the highway between nowhere and not much in the Murray Mallee, emptied-out farming country where communities have shrunk to little more than pairs of bullet-scarred road signs.

Just west of town on the Karoonda Highway there’s a patch of bush before the big wheat paddocks start. It was there, on July 15, that a curious motorist pulled up when something caught his eye.

He wasn’t the first to notice the faded suitcase abandoned under a bush. Others had been there over previous weeks and glanced at the case’s stained and rotting contents. But none had noticed the thing he saw among a pile of clothes scattered nearby.

It was a human jawbone. A small one.

When the police arrived they found the rest of the skeleton, obviously a child’s — almost certainly a girl’s, judging from the clothes that had spilled out of the suitcase. It will take time for forensic scientists to confirm the working assumption that the dead child was a female aged between 30 months and four years.

What investigators do not yet know — or are not saying — is whether they can get a DNA sample from the bones to compare with samples already on record: samples taken from offenders, especially sex offenders. Having DNA would also give police a tool to eliminate — or implicate — any “person of interest”.

Anyone closely related to the child should be able to unlock the macabre mystery of what happened to her.

South Australia’s major crime squad has made an educated guess that the person they want is in their state, most likely within close range.

Taskforce Mallee has begun the investigation by doorknocking every house within 25km of Wynarka. Conscious of how easily investigations can veer off-course, miss vital clues or leave gaps that the guilty can wriggle through, detectives are taking their time, cross-referencing each inquiry so nothing is missed and nothing is left to chance.

No one has to be reminded that other investigations of notorious murder cases have been hampered by slapdash initial police work and hunches that didn’t pan out.

The Azaria Chamberlain case, for one. The Falconio case, for another. The Beaumonts and “The Family” murders in Adelaide.

Investigators are not revealing all they know about what happened to the child, because they have to keep some vital detail secret. Something only the killer knows and that timewasters don’t know.

Police know the victim was a little under a metre tall and had shoulder-length fair hair. They know that as long as seven years ago she died extremely violently, almost certainly murdered. Certain fractures suggest she was bashed to death. A defence lawyer might argue that such injuries could be accidental — but why would anyone would hide the body of a child who died in a genuine accident?

The killer or someone close to him or her then covered the body in a pile of clothes — maybe in an empty room, a cupboard or a shed. Then they left it for years — long enough to be reduced to a skeleton.

Then, probably early this year, something happened — something that prompted whoever had hidden the body to want to move it. The killer or an accomplice jammed the clothing and the skeleton into a suitcase and took it from the hiding place.

Why? Perhaps they had to move house and feared the body would be discovered by others. Perhaps they were jittery because of publicity about prosecution of other child killers. The brilliant detection of Daniel Morcombe’s killer — Brett Peter Cowan — generated nationwide publicity after Cowan’s Supreme Court appeal failed in May this year. In April there was a spate of fresh publicity about William Tyrell’s abduction in northern NSW last September. Either, or neither, might have been enough to spook a child killer.

Whatever the reason, someone took the suitcase from the hiding place to Wynarka. It is tempting to assume it must have been moved in a vehicle, but that does not necessarily tally with the strongest clue police have: that a man with a suitcase was seen in Wynarka some time between March and May.

WYNARKA township has about eight permanent residents. Early one autumn morning this year, roughly a quarter of the population — Denise Edwards and Monica Martin — were walking their dogs when they saw something that stuck in their minds.

It was a man, aged about 60, walking briskly up the main street towards the Karoonda highway that links Wynarka with the world, or at least with Murray Bridge.

The man was average height, lightly built and neat looking, with short grey hair. He was a complete stranger to both women, who are locals bred and born and tend not to mix with the “blow ins” who appeared in the district chasing cheap rent when the permanent community started shrinking a generation ago.

The most unusual thing about the stranger was that he had a large suitcase — and was carrying it rather than wheeling it, as if it weren’t heavy. As Monica recalled this week, “He wasn’t labouring, and he was walking briskly.” Her vague impression was of a man on a mission.

The stranger was close enough to see both women but he made no eye contact and no greeting, unusual in the country. There was no sign of how he had appeared in the street but it seemed unlikely he had walked all the way from some other area. It seemed likely that either a vehicle had dropped him there, or he had walked from relatively close by.

The problem for police is that if he arrived in Wynarka by vehicle he could have started his journey almost anywhere — over the border in Victoria, for a start.

Against the theory that he hitchhiked is that a middle-aged man carrying a suitcase should have stood out enough that motorists would have remembered seeing him and reported it, especially if they had given him a ride.

In an era of backpackers and cheap cars, you could drive around Australia and not see anyone carrying a suitcase on the open road.

INVESTIGATORS are eliminating the most obvious possibility: that the man came from one of the former farmhouses rented cheaply to transient tenants who come to the backblocks to escape unhappy pasts, unpaid debts and people who ask questions.

Some outsiders like isolated houses because they can produce (and consume) drugs there. Others, like the grotesquely inbred family finally uncovered in rural NSW in 2012, move regularly to isolated districts to stay a step ahead of the authorities.

That family, product of three generations of incest over 40 years, moved from New Zealand to South Australia, to Victoria and back to South Australia before their final move to a remote valley outside Canberra. No outsiders would have known if one of the dozen feral children in the family had died — or been killed.

As forensic experts do their best to extract usable DNA from the tiny bones, the investigators have been chasing leads on the clothes and the quilt found with the suitcase — and the case itself.

The clothing is mostly cheap and mass-produced, much of it available all over Australia from stores like Target. Probably the most distinctive garment is a glittery dark blue tutu. There is also one pink slipper-like shoe with a butterfly emblem.

Police have traced the likely origins of most of the 50-odd items of clothing found. But five brand names have not yet been traced back to retail outlets.

One is “Sally”. Others are “Miss X Australia”, “HF” and “Gaf”. The oddest one looks like HAOLAILH, printed on the tag in uneven capitals.

Police dressed a tot-sized mannequin in a new version of the blue tutu in the hope it would jog someone’s memory. So far, it hasn’t, even though only 28 of the tutus were sold in South Australia in the last eight years. Each sale has to be traced.

Perhaps the most intriguing clue is the quilt. It is a “one-off”, apparently homemade from mostly hexagonal patches of brightly patterned material but machine-stitched, not hand sewn.

On one hand, it could have been made by a relative of the girl’s — a loving grandmother, perhaps. Or it could have been picked up at an opportunity shop or some other charity. Either way, investigators want anyone who thinks they recognise it to tip them off — even anonymously.

The other clue is the suitcase itself. Like the clothes, the Lanza brand case is “budget” quality. Lanza is the cheapest line of the brands sold by the national luggage retail chain, Strandbags.

Police have learned that the store “gave away” a large number of the suitcases for as little as $9 each several years ago. Any one of them could have ended up in a charity store, or been picked up from the street during a hard rubbish collection, even recycled at a tip.

The suitcase is variously described as “faded blue” or “grey”, although police have used a black model to use for publicity purposes. Whatever its original colour, it looks as if it was severely weathered before the guilty party put the clothes and the bones in it.

The police suggest the Lanza was sold exclusively by Strandbags outlets at Murray Bridge, McLaren Vale, Rundle Mall, Salisbury and Elizabeth. The question of whether it could have been bought in Renmark or Mt Gambier or over the border in Mildura or Warrnambool — or at any of the other dozen or more stores in Victoria — remains unanswered.

AS the investigation moves into its second  month, the neat man with the suitcase seems the strongest lead. Every day that he fails to come forward to clear himself confirms him as a better suspect.

The officer who took charge of the case last month, Detective Supt Des Bray, has since gone on leave.

Before he left he said: “The man with the suitcase is a bit of an unknown that could be something or absolutely nothing to do with the investigation. It is really strange that nobody has been able to identify him.”

Police have spoken to more than a dozen witnesses who saw a man matching the description of the “suitcase man” in the Wynarka district during the autumn.

Two specific sightings were on April 13 and May 26. Either there have been two men, both with suitcases, or the same man was walking around the district on and off for weeks. And then vanished.

www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/andrew-rule-behind-mystery-of-girl-in-suitcase-at-wynarka-south-australia/story-fni0fee2-1227485075838
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 02:24:33 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2015, 02:34:04 PM »
Murder mysteries: gone girls’ secrets break Wynarka’s heart



By Dan Box
Crime Reporter Sydney

29 August 2015

Wynarka, a tiny town clinging to the highway between the bare plains east of Adelaide, is home to about a dozen people, yet this is not the first time they have suffered the killing of a young blonde girl.



A typical camp site in bush near Wynarka where people go to fall out of society; ‘There’s people living here because they want to be alone’. Pictures: Kelly Barnes

Wynarka, a tiny town clinging to the highway between the bare plains east of Adelaide, is home to about a dozen people, yet this is not the first time they have suffered the killing of a young blonde girl.

These dirt streets are today at the centre of a murder investigation, after a passing motorist found a small female skeleton along with dozens of decomposing, multicoloured clothes spilling from a suitcase left beside the road.

Seven weeks since that discovery, on July 14, detectives still don’t know the girl’s name.

Standing in his backyard in Wynarka, 70-year-old Gilbert Baker remembers the last time detectives came to ask about a missing girl. Eight-month old Cassandra disappeared in 1978. Her parents left Wynarka suddenly one night and, for years, no one noticed she was gone.

In 1982, Cassandra’s mother told a welfare agency her daughter had been killed. Mr Baker used to rent a house out to the couple. The police dug up his lawn.

Cassandra’s parents were charged with manslaughter. Called as a witness at the trial, Mr Baker says their daughter “was the cutest little baby I’ve ever seen in my whole life.”

Her body was never found.

Last month, when the suitcase was reported to police, Mr Baker was in Darwin. He spoke to detectives several times by phone, including about Cassandra’s disappearance. South Australia Police have been investigating her killing since.

Almost certainly, Cassandra is not the girl in the suitcase; both were blonde but police believe their unnamed victim was older. The clothes found with her body are also much more recent, suggesting she died within the past eight years.

Mr Baker wonders when the police will come to ask him in person about Cassandra, and about her father, a British expat who The Weekend Australian has chosen not to name. Mr Baker called him Black Pom.

Newspaper reports from the time confirm Mr Baker’s account. After leaving Wynarka, they reveal, Black Pom moved to Sydney before being brought back by police. Aged 26 at the time he was arrested, he would be about 58 today.

In a statement, South Australia Police say Cassandra’s killing has been “investigated extensively by detectives” and “has all but been eliminated as being relevant to the remains of a young girl found near Wynarka in July.” The police would not confirm whether they had spoken to Black Pom.

The work done to identify the girl in the suitcase, however, has been relentless. Two weeks ago, on a Friday afternoon, Jeremy Austin from the Australian Centre for Ancient DNA received a call. Could he help with the case?

Given two pieces of bone, the associate professor — who previously worked with police investigating the death of Queensland schoolboy Daniel Morcombe — began working in his laboratory at the University of Adelaide.

By Saturday morning, he was holding a small tube of colourless liquid containing the girl’s DNA.

Whether that will be enough remains in doubt. DNA degrades over time and with the conditions in which a body is kept, “so you start losing information” says Professor Austin. In the South Australian Mallee country, where the summer heat passes 40C, it could degrade quite quickly.

“You also have to be lucky,” Professor Austin says. Even with a complete DNA profile, you still have to find a match.

Detective Inspector Greg Hutchins says this work is ongoing and “very complex”.

“We’re trying to put a face on our little girl,” he says, “but police work is often not an exact science.”

Their best estimate is that the girl was somewhere between 2½ and four years old, and 90-95cm tall, when she died. Her blonde hair was about 18cm long.

Judging by the clothes her skeleton was found with, she most likely died after 2007, although it could have been as recently as last year. One thing, the policeman says, is certain. “It’s a violent, horrible death. Let’s be clear, it’s a murder.”

And, he emphasises, they will find her killer. “No one’s come forward,” Inspector Hutchins says. Had she been abducted by a stranger, her parents would have contacted police.

“So you have to look at potentially a dysfunctional family-type environment.”

It bothers him that the suitcase was left lying on the hard dirt 1.5km outside Wynarka. It would have taken so little effort to hide it deeper in the scrub. “You’ve got this huge, big country haven’t you?” Inspector Hutchins says. “Why leave it there?”

Monica Martin may have seen the man who left the suitcase. Walking her dog one morning in April or maybe May, she watched a casually dressed man carrying a suitcase head out of town, over the railway line, towards the scrub.

Aged about 60, he stood out because he wasn’t from Wynarka. And if you are not, you have little reason to visit the town, Ms Martin says.

There are no shops, no train station, nothing more than a payphone beside the road.

It could be a coincidence. Other locals say a travelling salesman visits the area with a suitcase, selling perfumes and cologne.

For Ms Martin, “the big thing is that this man hasn’t come forward … There could be a simple explanation, but it hasn’t been explained.”

Without an explanation, without a name for the girl, sadness keeps interrupting daily life.

“It would be very easy to dwell on the horror of it, and let that be overwhelming,” says the grandmother of five.

It shows how children can go missing, often for years, before anyone realises they have fallen through the cracks.

Similarly, no one seems to have noticed Cassandra was missing. Her parents told authorities she was living with relatives in another state.

Today, South Australia Police are using commonwealth databases — they won’t say which ones, but vaccination and Centrelink records seem likely — to identify girls whose names appear one year, but not the next. They have found 256 such girls so far.

Cross-referencing these names against other state and territory databases is expected to show many are alive and well.

Where this can’t be done, local police will be asked to knock on doors, confirming the safety of those still missing from the files. It will be an exhausting investigation and — worryingly — one that could identify other missing girls.

Barry Edwards is not surprised to hear this.

Like others living in Wynarka, he remembers the father and young daughter who once lived in a caravan parked among the scrub outside town. One day, years ago, they disappeared.

Yet others are still living like that today.

Drive west along the highway from Wynarka, turn into the bush and you will find their camps, built from caravans, corrugated iron and an old oil drum for a stove.

“Once you get over the river here, there’s blocks out in the scrub and you’d have no idea,” Mr Edwards says.

“They just don’t want to be found. There’s people living here because they want to be alone.”

www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/murder-mysteries-gone-girls-secrets-break-wynarkas-heart/story-e6frg6nf-1227503314684
« Last Edit: September 01, 2015, 03:55:29 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2015, 02:34:26 PM »
Australian Police appear to be no further forward in their quest to discover the true identity of the young girl whose bones and clothing were found in and around a suitcase near Wynarka, South Australia.

The township of Wynarka has about eight permanent residents yet a middle aged male stranger seen carrying a suitcase near the highway on several occasions between April and June has never been identified.

An update:


Behind mystery of girl in suitcase at Wynarka, South Australia

Sunday Herald Sun

By Andrew Rule

THE Beaumont children. Truro. The Family. Snowtown. Now there’s Wynarka and the little girl in the suitcase, the latest addition to South Australia’s back-catalogue of horror stories.

Wynarka is a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it collection of houses on the highway between nowhere and not much in the Murray Mallee, emptied-out farming country where communities have shrunk to little more than pairs of bullet-scarred road signs.

Just west of town on the Karoonda Highway there’s a patch of bush before the big wheat paddocks start. It was there, on July 15, that a curious motorist pulled up when something caught his eye.

He wasn’t the first to notice the faded suitcase abandoned under a bush. Others had been there over previous weeks and glanced at the case’s stained and rotting contents. But none had noticed the thing he saw among a pile of clothes scattered nearby.

It was a human jawbone. A small one.

When the police arrived they found the rest of the skeleton, obviously a child’s — almost certainly a girl’s, judging from the clothes that had spilled out of the suitcase. It will take time for forensic scientists to confirm the working assumption that the dead child was a female aged between 30 months and four years.

What investigators do not yet know — or are not saying — is whether they can get a DNA sample from the bones to compare with samples already on record: samples taken from offenders, especially sex offenders. Having DNA would also give police a tool to eliminate — or implicate — any “person of interest”.

Anyone closely related to the child should be able to unlock the macabre mystery of what happened to her.

South Australia’s major crime squad has made an educated guess that the person they want is in their state, most likely within close range.

Taskforce Mallee has begun the investigation by doorknocking every house within 25km of Wynarka. Conscious of how easily investigations can veer off-course, miss vital clues or leave gaps that the guilty can wriggle through, detectives are taking their time, cross-referencing each inquiry so nothing is missed and nothing is left to chance.

No one has to be reminded that other investigations of notorious murder cases have been hampered by slapdash initial police work and hunches that didn’t pan out.

The Azaria Chamberlain case, for one. The Falconio case, for another. The Beaumonts and “The Family” murders in Adelaide.

Investigators are not revealing all they know about what happened to the child, because they have to keep some vital detail secret. Something only the killer knows and that timewasters don’t know.

Police know the victim was a little under a metre tall and had shoulder-length fair hair. They know that as long as seven years ago she died extremely violently, almost certainly murdered. Certain fractures suggest she was bashed to death. A defence lawyer might argue that such injuries could be accidental — but why would anyone would hide the body of a child who died in a genuine accident?

The killer or someone close to him or her then covered the body in a pile of clothes — maybe in an empty room, a cupboard or a shed. Then they left it for years — long enough to be reduced to a skeleton.

Then, probably early this year, something happened — something that prompted whoever had hidden the body to want to move it. The killer or an accomplice jammed the clothing and the skeleton into a suitcase and took it from the hiding place.

Why? Perhaps they had to move house and feared the body would be discovered by others. Perhaps they were jittery because of publicity about prosecution of other child killers. The brilliant detection of Daniel Morcombe’s killer — Brett Peter Cowan — generated nationwide publicity after Cowan’s Supreme Court appeal failed in May this year. In April there was a spate of fresh publicity about William Tyrell’s abduction in northern NSW last September. Either, or neither, might have been enough to spook a child killer.

Whatever the reason, someone took the suitcase from the hiding place to Wynarka. It is tempting to assume it must have been moved in a vehicle, but that does not necessarily tally with the strongest clue police have: that a man with a suitcase was seen in Wynarka some time between March and May.

WYNARKA township has about eight permanent residents. Early one autumn morning this year, roughly a quarter of the population — Denise Edwards and Monica Martin — were walking their dogs when they saw something that stuck in their minds.

It was a man, aged about 60, walking briskly up the main street towards the Karoonda highway that links Wynarka with the world, or at least with Murray Bridge.

The man was average height, lightly built and neat looking, with short grey hair. He was a complete stranger to both women, who are locals bred and born and tend not to mix with the “blow ins” who appeared in the district chasing cheap rent when the permanent community started shrinking a generation ago.

The most unusual thing about the stranger was that he had a large suitcase — and was carrying it rather than wheeling it, as if it weren’t heavy. As Monica recalled this week, “He wasn’t labouring, and he was walking briskly.” Her vague impression was of a man on a mission.

The stranger was close enough to see both women but he made no eye contact and no greeting, unusual in the country. There was no sign of how he had appeared in the street but it seemed unlikely he had walked all the way from some other area. It seemed likely that either a vehicle had dropped him there, or he had walked from relatively close by.

The problem for police is that if he arrived in Wynarka by vehicle he could have started his journey almost anywhere — over the border in Victoria, for a start.

Against the theory that he hitchhiked is that a middle-aged man carrying a suitcase should have stood out enough that motorists would have remembered seeing him and reported it, especially if they had given him a ride.

In an era of backpackers and cheap cars, you could drive around Australia and not see anyone carrying a suitcase on the open road.

INVESTIGATORS are eliminating the most obvious possibility: that the man came from one of the former farmhouses rented cheaply to transient tenants who come to the backblocks to escape unhappy pasts, unpaid debts and people who ask questions.

Some outsiders like isolated houses because they can produce (and consume) drugs there. Others, like the grotesquely inbred family finally uncovered in rural NSW in 2012, move regularly to isolated districts to stay a step ahead of the authorities.

That family, product of three generations of incest over 40 years, moved from New Zealand to South Australia, to Victoria and back to South Australia before their final move to a remote valley outside Canberra. No outsiders would have known if one of the dozen feral children in the family had died — or been killed.

As forensic experts do their best to extract usable DNA from the tiny bones, the investigators have been chasing leads on the clothes and the quilt found with the suitcase — and the case itself.

The clothing is mostly cheap and mass-produced, much of it available all over Australia from stores like Target. Probably the most distinctive garment is a glittery dark blue tutu. There is also one pink slipper-like shoe with a butterfly emblem.

Police have traced the likely origins of most of the 50-odd items of clothing found. But five brand names have not yet been traced back to retail outlets.

One is “Sally”. Others are “Miss X Australia”, “HF” and “Gaf”. The oddest one looks like HAOLAILH, printed on the tag in uneven capitals.

Police dressed a tot-sized mannequin in a new version of the blue tutu in the hope it would jog someone’s memory. So far, it hasn’t, even though only 28 of the tutus were sold in South Australia in the last eight years. Each sale has to be traced.

Perhaps the most intriguing clue is the quilt. It is a “one-off”, apparently homemade from mostly hexagonal patches of brightly patterned material but machine-stitched, not hand sewn.

On one hand, it could have been made by a relative of the girl’s — a loving grandmother, perhaps. Or it could have been picked up at an opportunity shop or some other charity. Either way, investigators want anyone who thinks they recognise it to tip them off — even anonymously.

The other clue is the suitcase itself. Like the clothes, the Lanza brand case is “budget” quality. Lanza is the cheapest line of the brands sold by the national luggage retail chain, Strandbags.

Police have learned that the store “gave away” a large number of the suitcases for as little as $9 each several years ago. Any one of them could have ended up in a charity store, or been picked up from the street during a hard rubbish collection, even recycled at a tip.

The suitcase is variously described as “faded blue” or “grey”, although police have used a black model to use for publicity purposes. Whatever its original colour, it looks as if it was severely weathered before the guilty party put the clothes and the bones in it.

The police suggest the Lanza was sold exclusively by Strandbags outlets at Murray Bridge, McLaren Vale, Rundle Mall, Salisbury and Elizabeth. The question of whether it could have been bought in Renmark or Mt Gambier or over the border in Mildura or Warrnambool — or at any of the other dozen or more stores in Victoria — remains unanswered.

AS the investigation moves into its second  month, the neat man with the suitcase seems the strongest lead. Every day that he fails to come forward to clear himself confirms him as a better suspect.

The officer who took charge of the case last month, Detective Supt Des Bray, has since gone on leave.

Before he left he said: “The man with the suitcase is a bit of an unknown that could be something or absolutely nothing to do with the investigation. It is really strange that nobody has been able to identify him.”

Police have spoken to more than a dozen witnesses who saw a man matching the description of the “suitcase man” in the Wynarka district during the autumn.

Two specific sightings were on April 13 and May 26. Either there have been two men, both with suitcases, or the same man was walking around the district on and off for weeks. And then vanished.

www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/andrew-rule-behind-mystery-of-girl-in-suitcase-at-wynarka-south-australia/story-fni0fee2-1227485075838

All these missing children  8(8-)) I cant understand why nobody recognizes the clothing.....unless of course they were purchased by the killer.

Another update with some videos
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3208414/Children-s-book-outback-white-fur-trimmed-coat-girl-wearing-identified-South-Australian-murder-mystery-girl-suitcase.html
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline Anna

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2015, 02:52:34 PM »
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #49 on: September 01, 2015, 04:05:05 PM »
Thanks for that Anna.   It seems that there is a unique problem in Australia in that many white children are, according to Australians themselves, borderline feral and move constantly around the vast wilderness which accounts for most of the continent.  Records held by social services and schools appear to not follow children in many cases thus exists the possibility that some of these children are dead.

This is the problem which Australia's police are now facing, they are attempting to trace all these children by cross referencing the records which exist in an effort to identify children who are really missing as against those who have simply moved to another State.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #50 on: September 01, 2015, 04:34:05 PM »
Thanks for that Anna.   It seems that there is a unique problem in Australia in that many white children are, according to Australians themselves, borderline feral and move constantly around the vast wilderness which accounts for most of the continent.  Records held by social services and schools appear to not follow children in many cases thus exists the possibility that some of these children are dead.

This is the problem which Australia's police are now facing, they are attempting to trace all these children by cross referencing the records which exist in an effort to identify children who are really missing as against those who have simply moved to another State.

This would be the case in most countries, though, I would have thought.
In the case of a child being old enough to move alone, or the whole family disappearing, then that could mean a move to somewhere else.
If a lone child is reported missing by family, I would have thought that the concentration of the search and cross referencing, would be there, first.

 They could have the child's death date wrongly calculated too.
It is difficult to calculate time of death, when it is that long ago. I think calculation has been done mainly on clothing.
The bones may have been preserved to an extent in that suitcase.

It's all just too dreadful  8(8-))
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #51 on: September 16, 2015, 02:12:24 AM »
Wynarka murder mystery continues

Police have compiled a list of nearly 260 names that could match the identity of a murdered little girl. Stacey Lee reports.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/video/watch/29310583/wynarka-murder-mystery-continues/

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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2015, 04:19:57 PM »
Wynarka murder mystery continues

Police have compiled a list of nearly 260 names that could match the identity of a murdered little girl. Stacey Lee reports.


https://au.news.yahoo.com/sa/video/watch/29310583/wynarka-murder-mystery-continues/
This is utterly astonishing.  There are 260 young girls that are currently missing in Australia?!

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Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2015, 12:23:12 PM »
Madeleine McCann: Body found in suitcase feared to be missing youngster finally identified
15:03, 21 Oct 2015
Updated 16:32, 21 Oct 2015

By Anthony Bond
The body was discovered in Australia in July and resulted in British cops investigating Madeleine’s disappearance contacting local police
The body was discovered in Australia in July and resulted in British cops investigating Madeleine’s disappearance contacting local police
Getty Khandalyce Kiara Pearce's remains were found in a suitcase in southern Australia
The body of a girl found decomposed in a suitcase in Australia prompting suspicions it could be Madeleine McCann has now been identified.
The discovery of the fair-haired girl's remains resulted in British cops investigating Madeleine’s disappearance contacting local police.

The skeletal remains were found by a motorist in a suitcase by the side of a remote highway near Wynarka in south Australia in July.
Australian police said the remains were those of a girl aged between two and four who died in 2007 and had fair hair.
Maddie was three years old when she vanished from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz in 2007, prompting speculation the remains could be hers.
However, it has now emerged the body has been identified as that of Khandalyce Pearce, a missing two-year-old girl.
She is the daughter of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson whose skeletal remains were found in New South Wales in 2010.
Getty Karlie Jade Pearce-Stevenson;s remains were found in New South Wales's Belanglo State Forest in 2010

Karlie's body was found in a forest about 750 miles away from where her daughter’s remains were found this summer.
Police have finally been able to solve the mysery after receiving a tip-off from a caller to a crime prevention hotline.
They are now urgently looking to identify the person responsible for both deaths.
Detective Superintendent Des Bray of South Australia Police said: "This is one of the most shocking crimes - shocking and unimaginable - and another family has been torn apart and devastated.
"Those people that are responsible for this crime are truly evil and must be quickly caught and held to account for what they've done."
Police investigating Madeleine's disappearance contacted police in Australia when news emerged of the discovery.
But they were told later that that she had been "totally excluded" as a potential victim.
PA Madeleine McCann has been missing since 2007
South Australia Police said it had ruled out 43 missing children in connection to the grim discovery next to a remote motorway in Wynarka near Adelaide on July 15.

Blonde Madeleine was three when she went missing from the family's holiday apartment in Portugal's Algarve on May 3 2007.

Speaking at the time, Detective Superintendent Des Bray said: "I can confirm that Madeleine McCann has been totally excluded as a potential victim and UK police have been advised.
"The Metropolitan Police have previously said they were aware of reports that a child's remains had been found and had contacted Australian authorities."


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-body-found-suitcase-6675566
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― Plato

Offline John

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2015, 01:58:00 PM »
Thank you for posting that update Anna, hopefully now investigators can track down the monster who did this awful crime and get justice for Khandalyce and her mother.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2015, 02:07:35 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2015, 02:07:58 PM »
Thank you for posting that update Anna, hopefully now investigators can track down the monster who did this awful crime.

The mother was found 750 miles away? Is the killer living in the middle of that 750 miles and was making a fair distance between him and them, or did he move away from that area? Very mysterious case indeed.

They will be checking out the mother's partners no doubt....She looks so young and that baby was so sweet.

It doesn't explain the clothing in the suitcase either, which I believe was from an older child.

“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline John

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2015, 02:52:46 PM »
Karlie Pearce-Stevenson left Alice Springs in 2006 with Khandalyce, planning to travel and work around Australia. They were reported missing in 2009 by Pearce-Stevenson’s mother, but the report was withdrawn when she was assured the pair were safe and happy but wanted no contact with family.

Her mother died in 2010.



Police have said no family member, including the father of Khandalyce, is a suspect in the murder case.

Police are trying to piece together the pair’s movements between 2006 and 2008 and have appealed for anyone who had any contact with them to come forward.

Detective superintendent Des Bray urged caravan park owners, motel operators and landlords to check their electronic records over the past few years to see if the pair stayed with them.

“We’re not at the end of the investigation, we’re really at the start,” he told reporters on Wednesday. “And I guess you could say that initially we were looking for a needle in a haystack but we didn’t know what the haystack was.

“We’ve now actually got the haystack and we think we’re working towards a successful conclusion, but there’s a lot of work to be done and I’m confident that everybody across Australia will get behind the police and the family and provide information.”

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/oct/22/victim-karlie-pearce-stevenson-was-sociable-and-popular-say-friends
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2015, 03:05:16 PM »
Girl in suitcase: Detectives identify suspect in killings of Karlie Pearce-Stevenson and daughter Khandalyce

Detectives investigating the murders of a mother and her young daughter have made a major breakthrough in their inquiries identifying a key suspect in the killings.

Police in NSW and South Australia have been inundated with information and tip-offs from the public a day after they went public with the identities of single mother Karlie Pearce-Stevenson and her daughter Khandalyce Pearce-Stevenson.

Fairfax Media has learnt that investigators in both states have made rapid progress in the investigation and have identified a male suspect.

It is understood the man is in custody in a NSW jail, serving a prison sentence for unrelated offences.

A spokesman on Thursday night said police were "keeping an open mind" to their inquiries.


http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/3441325/police-identify-suspect-in-mother-daughter-killings/?cs=298
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Anna

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2015, 03:43:49 PM »
Thanks John,
                     So she wasn't with her husband?
I hope they find this person very soon.
It looks like the police are well on track of finding where they were living before ......
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline misty

Re: Skeleton found in suitcase is child ‘murdered eight years ago’
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2015, 11:15:35 PM »
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/australia-prison-inmate-daniel-holdom-215325652.html#zzTQ3sH

Police in the Australian state of New South Wales have charged a 41-year-old man with the murder of missing mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson, whose body was found in Belanglo State Forest near Sydney in 2010, but who was only identified last month. Following that breakthrough, police were able to identify the remains of a child found in a suitcase 1,200km away in Wynarka, South Australia in July 2015, as Karlie's two-year-old daughter, Khandalyce.

Daniel Holdom was arrested in Cessnock jail, where he is an inmate. He is said to be an acquaintance of Karlie. Although he has not been charged with Khandalyce's death, there are hopes police may come closer to finding out who killed the child and why the two bodies were found so far apart. It is thought both were probably killed shortly after they were last seen alive by police on the Stuart Highway near Coober Pedy on 8 November 2008.

Earlier this week it emerged that in the year following Ms Pearce-Stevenson's disappearance, someone withdrew around AU$90,000 from her bank account and in 2010 a woman in a wheelchair, claiming to be the missing mum, went to a credit union claiming to be Karlie. The bank account was accessed until 2012 and closed in 2015 due to inactivity.

Wages from a job also went into the account and a woman even phoned the family several times claiming to be Karlie and persuading them to transfer money to an account. Text messages were also sent. Karlie's mum, who had initially reported her missing, had withdrawn the report six days later when she was reassured Karlie was safe and well. Karlie's mum died in 2012.

Police have not said if they believe those responsible for the identity fraud were also responsible for the murder of the mum and daughter. However, Det Supt Bray said, "It's clear that some of the people involved in the frauds knew without doubt that Karlie and Khandalyce were dead and continued with their role."

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A tragic & twisted tale.
Hopefully the Au police will now also be able to identify the person who dumped the suitcase.