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Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« on: March 11, 2016, 06:53:05 PM »
Apparently there is a very good reason why, according to leading sceptic scientific experts the dog did not alert to Gerry's clothes and I'd like to know what it is....

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2016, 07:15:07 PM »
So, apparently this has all been explained before but I must have missed it or not understood it, therefore could we please have an expert give us the science behind this, ie: why did the dog fail to alert to clothing worn by someone who allegedly carried a body around town, clothing which appeared not to leave any residual scent on any other clothing owned by this man, nor on the sofa where the man's jacket was apparently flung after committing the heinous deed.
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 07:17:37 PM »
So, apparently this has all been explained before but I must have missed it or not understood it, therefore could we please have an expert give us the science behind this, ie: why did the dog fail to alert to clothing worn by someone who allegedly carried a body around town, clothing which appeared not to leave any residual scent on any other clothing owned by this man, nor on the sofa where the man's jacket was apparently flung after committing the heinous deed.

As you appear to understand all the sceptic theories, perhaps you could explain which bits of whose theory a non alerting dog debunks?
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 07:24:51 PM »
G-Unit also showed us some photos of Gerry wearing light coloured chinos after the disappearance, trousers which were apparently just like the ones seen on Smithman. 
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 07:31:38 PM »
Can you show me evidence of the dogs examining a black jacket 3 months after the fact? 

"The individual was dressed in a long-sleeved coat/jacket, black in colour." TS

"She did not see what he was wearing above his trousers as the child covered him almost completely at the top." AS
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 9 years later.

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 08:49:32 PM »
MG commented that Eddie's behaviour changed as soon as he got to the apartment. From that I can conclude that there was scent all over that apartment but Eddie detects the strongest scent source and he alerted in two areas.

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 10:28:53 PM »

MG commented that Eddie's behaviour changed as soon as he got to the apartment. From that I can conclude that there was scent all over that apartment but Eddie detects the strongest scent source and he alerted in two areas.
So his alerts in the apartment were quite random then?  i thought he was trained to be precise, to home in on a scent source and bark over the source of the scent? 
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 10:49:12 PM »
Spots of Gerry's blood on the ignition key.

Confirmed by forensics.

Correct alert.

Clever dog.

But there might have been blood in any of the other 9 vehicles.

Not such a clever handler ....
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 10:50:42 PM »
Spots of Gerry's blood on the ignition key.

Confirmed by forensics.

Correct alert.

Clever dog.

But there might have been blood in any of the other 9 vehicles.

Not such a clever handler ....

No blood on the clothes.
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 10:52:30 PM »
No blood on the clothes.

That Eddie picked up in his mouth.

Not a trained alert by a police dog at a forensic crime-scene ....
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 10:56:19 PM »
The cynic might suggest there was a (particular) bias (conspiracy?) against Kate?
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2016, 10:58:34 PM »
I've gave the obvious reason. Eddie never examined that black jacket 3 months later. If Eddie didn't examine the clothes he wore on 3 May then it's guesswork.
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2016, 11:12:19 PM »
I've gave the obvious reason. Eddie never examined that black jacket 3 months later. If Eddie didn't examine the clothes he wore on 3 May then it's guesswork.

Did Eddie examine Gerry's beige fleece?

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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 11:12:28 PM »
I've gave the obvious reason. Eddie never examined that black jacket 3 months later. If Eddie didn't examine the clothes he wore on 3 May then it's guesswork.
a) why were certain obvious effects such as Gerry's jacket not examined? b) what about the other clothes Gerry was wearing that night and c) what about scent transferral from the clothes he wore that night to the rest of his wardrobe and d) why did the dog not sniff these out when it was rootling around in the rental apartment?
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Re: Why didn't the dogs alert to any of Gerry's clothing?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2016, 11:25:25 PM »
Did Eddie examine Gerry's beige fleece?

I can see one t-shirt of his that I think Eddie alerted to along with Kate's pants and the kids red t-shirt. I see no fleece worn on 4 May or beige pants. Amaral wanted to send Eddie into their house in England for further investigation.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 9 years later.