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Offline stephen25000

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2016, 10:25:38 AM »
It's what most people in the country want, time will tell.

Which people would that exactly be then ?

Do you, or they realize the sheer logistics of such a task make that near impossible ?
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2016, 10:59:43 AM »
The Human Rights Act, the EU's great panacea.

The ECHR is not an EU institution.  Anyone who voted for Brexit because they don't like the impact of the ECHR is going to be disappointed.   

A quote from Crosslands:

"What has been overlooked in many of the debates is the fact that whether we exit the EU or not, this will not affect the fact that the UK is bound by common law which implies many fundamental rights,and we also signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights ('ECHR') before the EU even existed. We are one of 47 nations (including Russia) to have signed up to the Council of Europe which is entirely independent of the EU and which administers the ECHR. We also have primary legislation in the UK called the Human Rights Act 1998 which specifically incorporates the ECHR

To be free of the interference of the ECtHR we would have to repeal/amend the Human Rights Act and remove ourselves from the Council  of Europe and the ECHR and if we did, is it likely that many countries would want do business with us? After all, the barriers to Turkey being ushered into the EU have consistently been their Human Rights record, so if we publicly say we will not sign up to the Council of Europe and the ECHR what signal does this send?"

http://www.crosslandsolicitors.com/site/crossland_news/brexit_eweida_achbita_ECJ_ECHR_html_2016

and

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/six-things-you-should-know-4370967

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2016, 11:06:24 AM »
The ECHR is not an EU institution.  Anyone who voted for Brexit because they don't like the impact of the ECHR is going to be disappointed.   

A quote from Crosslands:

"What has been overlooked in many of the debates is the fact that whether we exit the EU or not, this will not affect the fact that the UK is bound by common law which implies many fundamental rights,and we also signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights ('ECHR') before the EU even existed. We are one of 47 nations (including Russia) to have signed up to the Council of Europe which is entirely independent of the EU and which administers the ECHR. We also have primary legislation in the UK called the Human Rights Act 1998 which specifically incorporates the ECHR

To be free of the interference of the ECtHR we would have to repeal/amend the Human Rights Act and remove ourselves from the Council  of Europe and the ECHR and if we did, is it likely that many countries would want do business with us? After all, the barriers to Turkey being ushered into the EU have consistently been their Human Rights record, so if we publicly say we will not sign up to the Council of Europe and the ECHR what signal does this send?"

http://www.crosslandsolicitors.com/site/crossland_news/brexit_eweida_achbita_ECJ_ECHR_html_2016

and

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/six-things-you-should-know-4370967

It seems some people need reminding of the truth J.P.

I have explained the origins of the ECHR before on here.

 I am glad you have done it again.
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #138 on: July 14, 2016, 04:38:16 PM »
The ECHR is not an EU institution.  Anyone who voted for Brexit because they don't like the impact of the ECHR is going to be disappointed. 

A quote from Crosslands:

"What has been overlooked in many of the debates is the fact that whether we exit the EU or not, this will not affect the fact that the UK is bound by common law which implies many fundamental rights,and we also signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights ('ECHR') before the EU even existed. We are one of 47 nations (including Russia) to have signed up to the Council of Europe which is entirely independent of the EU and which administers the ECHR. We also have primary legislation in the UK called the Human Rights Act 1998 which specifically incorporates the ECHR

To be free of the interference of the ECtHR we would have to repeal/amend the Human Rights Act and remove ourselves from the Council  of Europe and the ECHR and if we did, is it likely that many countries would want do business with us? After all, the barriers to Turkey being ushered into the EU have consistently been their Human Rights record, so if we publicly say we will not sign up to the Council of Europe and the ECHR what signal does this send?"

http://www.crosslandsolicitors.com/site/crossland_news/brexit_eweida_achbita_ECJ_ECHR_html_2016

and

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/six-things-you-should-know-4370967

A lot more people than is being given credit already knew this. They are also aware that  ECHR Has no real teeth and that we can ignore their ruling if we feel lives are in danger- we may be fined- but we don't have to pay the fine what are they going to do killl us all? ppft.

 There has been discussion for many years about ditching this court and setting up our own citizen charter or something like that. To protect us from the state abuse etc. The state also has to protect us from terrorist who move among us, and hate preachers who blatantly breach out racist laws.

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #139 on: July 14, 2016, 09:47:57 PM »
A lot more people than is being given credit already knew this. They are also aware that  ECHR Has no real teeth and that we can ignore their ruling if we feel lives are in danger- we may be fined- but we don't have to pay the fine what are they going to do killl us all? ppft.

 There has been discussion for many years about ditching this court and setting up our own citizen charter or something like that. To protect us from the state abuse etc. The state also has to protect us from terrorist who move among us, and hate preachers who blatantly breach out racist laws.

Do you mean a bit like the UK's Human Rights Act of 1998, or something different?

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-rights/civil-rights/human-rights/the-human-rights-act-1998/

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #140 on: July 14, 2016, 09:51:06 PM »
A lot more people than is being given credit already knew this. They are also aware that  ECHR Has no real teeth and that we can ignore their ruling if we feel lives are in danger- we may be fined- but we don't have to pay the fine what are they going to do killl us all? ppft.

 There has been discussion for many years about ditching this court and setting up our own citizen charter or something like that. To protect us from the state abuse etc. The state also has to protect us from terrorist who move among us, and hate preachers who blatantly breach out racist laws.

Which human rights do you object to, exactly? I'm not sure that I understand.


Here we go:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-rights/civil-rights/human-rights/what-rights-are-protected-under-the-human-rights-act/
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #141 on: July 24, 2016, 10:47:13 PM »
Which human rights do you object to, exactly? I'm not sure that I understand.


Here we go:

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-rights/civil-rights/human-rights/what-rights-are-protected-under-the-human-rights-act/

I personally do not object to any.

 I do object to the courts in this country who interperate them in favour of one persons rights to freedom against an others rights to freedom, thus allowing criminals who are no longer welcolme  or wanted here to run riot going  on killing sprees or invoking racial hatred against the people who pay for his/her priveledge to enjoy this freedom to carry out such atrocities. I would much rather these people go to their own countries and carry out these crimes or does that make me a bad person huh