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Offline Jean-Pierre

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2016, 05:36:31 PM »
Not sure what you mean JP, is there such a category?

Illegal immigration has been raised as a part of the EU referendum debate, looking back to the OP on this thread.  It has actually got bu66er all to do with the EU, so I am puzzled as to how it has become conflated with EU maters.   

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2016, 05:41:46 PM »
Illegal immigration has been raised as a part of the EU referendum debate, looking back to the OP on this thread.  It has actually got bu66er all to do with the EU, so I am puzzled as to how it has become conflated with EU maters.   

Easily it would seem and unnoticed by most.................... &%+((     8(0(*
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2016, 05:44:18 PM »
Easily it would seem and unnoticed by most.................... &%+((     8(0(*

Angela Merkel welcoming illegal immigrants into the EU did seem to have been one of the catalysts for the debate
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2016, 05:59:37 PM »
Illegal immigration has been raised as a part of the EU referendum debate, looking back to the OP on this thread.  It has actually got bu66er all to do with the EU, so I am puzzled as to how it has become conflated with EU maters.   

It's really simple, as it stands in many instances, the UK cannot repatriate illegals because of the Human Rights Act which has gone far beyond that envisaged.  Remember David Cameron saying he would replace the HRA with a Bill of Rights?  Looks like he won't be doing that now but Andrea Leadsom is on record saying illegal migrants can be repatriated.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article3659175.ece
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2016, 06:02:28 PM »
Angela Merkel welcoming illegal immigrants into the EU did seem to have been one of the catalysts for the debate

Asylum seekers, fleeing from a brutal regime in Syria.

But no doubt they should have been sent back from whence they came.

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2016, 06:06:29 PM »
It's really simple, as it stands in many instances, the UK cannot repatriate illegals because of the Human Rights Act which has gone far beyond that envisaged.  Remember David Cameron saying he would replace the HRA with a Bill of Rights?  Looks like he won't be doing that now but Andrea Leadsom is on record saying illegal migrants can be repatriated.

It may have slipped your memory that the ECHR is NOT an EU institution.  Leaving the EU will not remove our obligations to the ECHR.  So those who voted leave on that basis are going to be a bit disappointed. 

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2016, 06:12:01 PM »
It may have slipped your memory that the ECHR is NOT an EU institution.  Leaving the EU will not remove our obligations to the ECHR.  So those who voted leave on that basis are going to be a bit disappointed.

That's easily sorted.  In a speech a few months back, Home Secretary Theresa May proposed that the UK should dump the Human Rights Act  Now that #brexit is imminent it shouldn't be that difficult.  The sooner we dump all these European institutions the better.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-theresa-may-eu-referendum
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2016, 06:21:04 PM »
That's easily sorted.  In a speech a few months back, Home Secretary Theresa May proposed that the UK should dump the Human Rights Act.  Now that #brexit is imminent it shouldn't be that difficult.  The sooner we dump all these European institutions the better.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/25/uk-must-leave-european-convention-on-human-rights-theresa-may-eu-referendum

And what would it be replaced with? 
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2016, 06:27:57 PM »
And what would it be replaced with?

A Bill of Rights of course or whatever other fancy name they want to give it.  Laws in the UK should be tailored to our culture and traditions as it was prior to all this European crap.

And whilst we're at it we should ensure that Laws in England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are the same.
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2016, 06:31:11 PM »
Angela Merkel welcoming illegal immigrants into the EU did seem to have been one of the catalysts for the debate

Would you care to elaborate on that ?
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2016, 06:32:11 PM »
A Bill of Rights of course or whatever other fancy name they want to give it.

Right.  So the bill guaranteeing rights of those who may be oppressed by the government will be drawn up by the government?  Is that it?

OK. 


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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2016, 06:33:34 PM »
A Bill of Rights of course or whatever other fancy name they want to give it.  Laws in the UK should be tailored to our culture and traditions as it was prior to all this European crap.

And whilst we're at it we should ensure that Laws in England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are the same.
It's always been part of our culture and tradition to welcome immigrants and refugees from persecution in other countries, so....?
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2016, 06:34:52 PM »
Angela Merkel welcoming illegal immigrants into the EU did seem to have been one of the catalysts for the debate
Illegal immigrants or refugees?  Or are they all the same thing as far as you're concerned?
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2016, 06:42:40 PM »
It's always been part of our culture and tradition to welcome immigrants and refugees from persecution in other countries, so....?

It still is but all things in moderation.  Refugees fleeing Syria should seek asylum in the first safe country they come to.
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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2016, 06:50:46 PM »
It still is but all things in moderation.  Refugees fleeing Syria should seek asylum in the first safe country they come to.
That let's us off the hook then.  Unless the French or the Americans ever need to flee persecution in their own countries.
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