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Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« on: June 30, 2016, 05:00:14 PM »
Jeremy Corbyn's position as Labour leader is untenable by any stretch of the imagination yet he remains in post and this despite rumours that he is being prevented from resigning by aids.  This situation is supported by the latest information that Andy Burnham was prevented from speaking with Corbyn earlier this afternoon by those same aids.

Has this farce gone on long enough?   Has British politics become a laughing stock?

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 05:43:46 PM »
Jeremy Corbyn's position as Labour leader is untenable by any stretch of the imagination yet he remains in post and this despite rumours that he is being prevented from resigning by aids.  This situation is supported by the latest information that Andy Burnham was prevented from speaking with Corbyn earlier this afternoon by those same aids.

Has this farce gone on long enough?   Has British politics become a laughing stock?

Thanks to Milliband changing the rules, the electoral college for the Labour leader is in the hands of the members of the labour party, and concentrated in the hands of Momentum members.  The Parliamentary party are powerless.

I fear it may be impossible to remove Corbyn.  He will automatically be on the ballot and will win each time.

It is possible that only thing to do is decamp to another party. 

I am not sure the ordinary voters will ever forgive them for ignoring the crisis going on around them while they all dance round their handbags arguing about who is the most "pure" socialist and who can be leader.  They need to get off their arses and do the job they are paid to do.  And realise its not an effing game.

Sorry - you may realise I am a bit exercised about this.   

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 05:55:14 PM »
Topic: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?

I hope so  8(0(*
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 06:04:05 PM »
Thanks to Milliband changing the rules, the electoral college for the Labour leader is in the hands of the members of the labour party, and concentrated in the hands of Momentum members.  The Parliamentary party are powerless.

I fear it may be impossible to remove Corbyn.  He will automatically be on the ballot and will win each time.

It is possible that only thing to do is decamp to another party. 

I am not sure the ordinary voters will ever forgive them for ignoring the crisis going on around them while they all dance round their handbags arguing about who is the most "pure" socialist and who can be leader.  They need to get off their arses and do the job they are paid to do.  And realise its not an effing game.

Sorry - you may realise I am a bit exercised about this.   

The Labour Party no sooner got rid of Militant than the door was foolishly opened to further entryism via Momentum and haven't they used the opportunity to best effect ... for them. 
Pity the posturing and sloganising doesn't go near to to addressing the lives of the people who should be able to look to the Labour Party for representation and support.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 06:08:04 PM »
The Labour Party no sooner got rid of Militant than the door was foolishly opened to further entryism via Momentum and haven't they used the opportunity to best effect ... for them. 
Pity the posturing and sloganising doesn't go near to to addressing the lives of the people who should be able to look to the Labour Party for representation and support.

Spot on Brietta.  Its very sad. 

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 06:24:13 PM »
What a God damn mess both main parties are making of this.   Osborne had the good sense to keep out of it but no doubt is secretly backing May in the hope of remaining Chancellor.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 06:26:27 PM »
What a God damn mess both main parties are making of this.   Osborne had the good sense to keep out of it but no doubt is secretly backing May in the hope of remaining Chancellor.

Its extraordinary.  Both at the same time. 

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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 06:40:02 PM »
Corbyn is being extraordinarily stubborn and selfish IMO.  He obviously wants to destroy the PLP for some reason.  No good can come of his clinging on for grim death.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 06:44:49 PM »
Corbyn is being extraordinarily stubborn and selfish IMO.  He obviously wants to destroy the PLP for some reason.  No good can come of his clinging on for grim death.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 06:49:03 PM »
Corbyn is being extraordinarily stubborn and selfish IMO.  He obviously wants to destroy the PLP for some reason.  No good can come of his clinging on for grim death.

The story going around is that as leader of the Opposition he wants to be able to put the boot into Blair when the Chilcot Report goes public on 6th July.  Can he survive another 5 or 6 days?
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 07:08:20 PM »
The story going around is that as leader of the Opposition he wants to be able to put the boot into Blair when the Chilcot Report goes public on 6th July.  Can he survive another 5 or 6 days?
What for?  Who really cares what he has to say on the matter, it's a foregone conclusion what it will be anyway.  Everyone on every side of the political spectrum will be no doubt saying much the same thing about the subject so not worth him hanging on for IMO.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 07:31:59 PM »
Both parties are effectively a laughing stock for different reasons.

The Conservative Party motto should be, 'Never turn your back on a fellow Tory'.

Meanwhile for Labour, 'Don't elect a Loser'.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 07:48:28 PM »
The story going around is that as leader of the Opposition he wants to be able to put the boot into Blair when the Chilcot Report goes public on 6th July.  Can he survive another 5 or 6 days?

                     Glad to see he's got his priorities right.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 07:51:14 PM »
The story going around is that as leader of the Opposition he wants to be able to put the boot into Blair when the Chilcot Report goes public on 6th July.  Can he survive another 5 or 6 days?

Well that will be the next political storm, unless of course a lot of the material has been redacted.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 08:02:32 PM »
Well that will be the next political storm, unless of course a lot of the material has been redacted.


I don't think it is going to have the impact it might have had and any fallout is going to be short term.  Blair couldn't have arranged a better time for it if he had planned it himself.
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