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Offline sadie

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2016, 12:58:18 AM »
1. Rumour has it everyone wants to start a plant in UK now because the pound is down ergo so will be UK unit labour rates......sweat shops alive and well in a little island off the north Europe coast.
2. Import like we do now.
3.I don't think JCB would see itself as a small company with a turnover of two and a half billion.

Quite what Nissan, Honda, Toyota and VW will make of it all remains to be seen. I suppose VW will stay here making Bentleys and BMW will keep the Mini and Rolls Royce here. ?
With people fighting for jobs and wages very likely down + the low level of the pound, yep, they will be queuing up to use British skills and expertise.  But the big bucks will be landing in the pockets of the overseas owners. 

We, little Englanders, will not see many benefits.
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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2016, 12:59:49 PM »
With people fighting for jobs and wages very likely down + the low level of the pound, yep, they will be queuing up to use British skills and expertise.  But the big bucks will be landing in the pockets of the overseas owners. 

We, little Englanders, will not see many benefits.


The main British skills and expertise were spreading corruption, cricket and overbearing bureaucracy around the world. Tongue in cheek slightly and picking a fight wherever they go.

The British are good inventors, to a point, who lack the production and marketing skills to make a killing. The Brits are good at, to paraphrase Carl Perkins, "kicking open the door then being stompled in the rush".


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It's just the booze talking
They've got the Malt and Barley Blues.

Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2016, 02:36:53 PM »
Theresa has yet again confirmed that she will invoke Article 50 by end of this year despite pressure being put on her by French President Hollande and others to rush it.  Cool, calm and collected Theresa will steer the ship on a true course  8((()*/
« Last Edit: July 24, 2016, 02:21:04 AM by John »
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Offline stephen25000

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2016, 03:08:55 PM »
Theresa has yet again confirmed that she will invoke Article 50 by end of this year despite pressure being put on her by French President Hollande and others to rush it.  Cool, calm and collected Theresa will steer the ship on a true course  8((()*/

I thought she said it would be next year before it is invoked, subject to the court action currently taking place.

Also, how democratic is it for a P.M. unelected by the voters of this country to initiate article 50, which could well need parliamentary approval.
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2016, 07:26:36 PM »
I thought she said it would be next year before it is invoked, subject to the court action currently taking place.

Also, how democratic is it for a P.M. unelected by the voters of this country to initiate article 50, which could well need parliamentary approval.

My guess is she has long since worked that one out.............watch this space.
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Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2016, 02:22:02 AM »
I thought she said it would be next year before it is invoked, subject to the court action currently taking place.

Also, how democratic is it for a P.M. unelected by the voters of this country to initiate article 50, which could well need parliamentary approval.

Those Court actions have no effect.  It is Parliament which decides the Laws in this country, the Courts merely enforce them.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2016, 01:11:29 PM by Angelo222 »
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Offline stephen25000

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2016, 09:34:53 AM »
Those Court actions have no effect.  It is Parliament which decides the Laws in this country, the Courts merely enforce them.

Again, are you aware of the nature of the court actions ?
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

Offline misty

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2016, 11:33:14 AM »
https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/sovereignty/

Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.

Parliamentary sovereignty and the UK constitution

People often refer to the UK having an 'unwritten constitution' but that's not strictly true. It may not exist in a single text, like in the USA or Germany, but large parts of it are written down, much of it in the laws passed in Parliament - known as statute law.

Therefore, the UK constitution is often described as 'partly written and wholly uncodified'. (Uncodified means that the UK does not have a single, written constitution.)

Developments affecting Parliamentary sovereignty

Over the years, Parliament has passed laws that limit the application of parliamentary sovereignty. These laws reflect political developments both within and outside the UK.

They include:

The devolution of power to bodies like the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly.
The Human Rights Act 1998.
The UK's entry to the European Union in 1973.
The decision to establish a UK Supreme Court in 2009, which ends the House of Lords function as the UK's final court of appeal.
These developments do not fundamentally undermine the principle of parliamentary sovereignty, since, in theory at least, Parliament could repeal any of the laws implementing these changes.

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I am unclear from the above as to whether Parliament can or can't change the law in regard to UK & the EU.
Anyone?

Offline John

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2016, 12:31:51 PM »
https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/role/sovereignty/

Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.

Parliamentary sovereignty and the UK constitution

People often refer to the UK having an 'unwritten constitution' but that's not strictly true. It may not exist in a single text, like in the USA or Germany, but large parts of it are written down, much of it in the laws passed in Parliament - known as statute law.

Therefore, the UK constitution is often described as 'partly written and wholly uncodified'. (Uncodified means that the UK does not have a single, written constitution.)

Developments affecting Parliamentary sovereignty

Over the years, Parliament has passed laws that limit the application of parliamentary sovereignty. These laws reflect political developments both within and outside the UK.

They include:

The devolution of power to bodies like the Scottish Parliament and Welsh Assembly.
The Human Rights Act 1998.
The UK's entry to the European Union in 1973.
The decision to establish a UK Supreme Court in 2009, which ends the House of Lords function as the UK's final court of appeal.
These developments do not fundamentally undermine the principle of parliamentary sovereignty, since, in theory at least, Parliament could repeal any of the laws implementing these changes.

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I am unclear from the above as to whether Parliament can or can't change the law in regard to UK & the EU.
Anyone?

Only Parliament can do so.
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Offline misty

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2016, 12:49:38 PM »
Only Parliament can do so.

Parliament has previously passed Acts which diluted its sovereignty.
Do we know for sure that the devolution of certain powers to Scotland & Wales means that those nations cannot use those powers to successfully challenge Parliament over an Act which will fundamentally alter their own status?

Offline stephen25000

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2016, 01:20:15 PM »
Only Parliament can do so.

Governments can be challenged in Court John.
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2016, 08:48:58 PM »
Governments can be challenged in Court John.

Indeed Stephen, ask any human rights lawyer worth their 1.2 milion pound fees salt, how cruel and wicked our Government is by denying basic human rights to terrorists, convicted rapists,murderers, paedophiles and genocide agitators in there countries, to be deported, for trial in their own country for other crimes they are accused of. Our Government is always challenged on these issues. The rule of law is  If you fancy killing people it's ok...well if it involves being deported,home grown convicted killers just get jailed.

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2016, 12:58:50 PM »
Justice for Sheila and Jeremy. Victims of poorly arranged baby scoop era adoptions. Australia has apologised. Time for the UK to do the same?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hVbokTpYeg http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2012-13/92

Offline Angelo222

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2016, 01:13:09 PM »
Governments can be challenged in Court John.

Well naturally but when it suits they merely change the law.  Parliament and by extension the government are the supreme authority in this country.  Courts are merely a mechanism and not the panacea or elixir you appear to think they are.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2016, 01:20:38 PM by Angelo222 »
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2016, 01:23:11 PM »
BOE has cut interest rate to an historic low of 0.25%.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36976528

What's next?  Negative interest rates?

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rush-to-withdraw-savings-as-threat-of-negative-rate-looms-pxzhxmq3n

Bloody fab... mortgage payers have never had it so good.  Rock on Brexit!
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