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so who advised him to cooperate in order to get a reduced sentence........thats coercian

I think you confuse cooperation with coercion.  Your claim of coercion has no basis, Joćo Cipriano went out voluntarily with the PJ looking for Joana's remains.
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I think you confuse cooperation with coercion.  Your claim of coercion has no basis, Joćo Cipriano went out voluntarily with the PJ looking for Joana's remains.

voluntarily in your opinion....he had already seen the severe beating his sister had received. I cant imagine anyone voluntarily admitting to such a crime...can you....the police had nothing
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The whole thing stinks.  In my opinion.

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The whole thing stinks.  In my opinion.

of course it stinks....the police had absolutely nothing but both suspects being good citizenns decided to help them by confessing and condemning themselved to 20 yrs in prison
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Once upon a time....
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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One never ceases to be amazed at the support for child killers.
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One never ceases to be amazed at the support for child killers.

not everyone who is found guilty is guilty John....miscarriages of justice do happen.....im surprised you want to ignore that fact

The fact that she has been found guilty does not mean she is guilty....that is a fact. therefore you cannot say with certainty she is a child killer...that is another fact
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not everyone who is found guilty is guilty John....miscarriages of justice do happen.....im surprised you want to ignore that fact

The fact that she has been found guilty does not mean she is guilty....that is a fact. therefore you cannot say with certainty she is a child killer...that is another fact

This thread is about Joćo Cipriano, the clue is in the name?  I fear Leonor has always covered for him because she knew that if he was convicted of murder with his record he would go away for a very long time. Joana disappeared on the evenng of the 12th September 2004 and it wasn't until nearly two weeks later on the 25th that Leonor was taken into custody, her brother and Joana's uncle, Joćo Cipriano, arrested two days later.  In that two weeks they had every opportunity to dispose of Joana's remains properly and concoct the story that it was she who hit and killed the child and not he.

We know of course that she retracted her confession and blamed her brother Joćo claiming he Chad taken the girl away to sell to foreigners but that things had gone sour and the girl died.  I will add that many people who knew her have said she was incapable of killing any child, her partner Leandro Silva being one of them.  Clearly her devotion to her brother is more important to her than telling what really occurred.  No doubt they will have each other when they are eventually paroled.

One other theory which was raised early on was that Joana had been sold to foreigners.  Had that really taken place was 20 years too high a price for silence?  I think so!
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This thread is about Joćo Cipriano, the clue is in the name?  I fear Leonor has always covered for him because she knew that if he was convicted of murder with his record he would go away for a very long time. Joana disappeared on the evenng of the 12th September 2004 and it wasn't until nearly two weeks later on the 25th that Leonor was taken into custody, her brother and Joana's uncle, Joćo Cipriano, arrested two days later.  In that two weeks they had every opportunity to dispose of Joana's remains properly and concoct the story that it was she who hit and killed the child and not he.

We know of course that she retracted her confession and blamed her brother Joćo claiming he Chad taken the girl away to sell to foreigners but that things had gone sour and the girl died.  I will add that many people who knew her have said she was incapable of killing any child, her partner Leandro Silva being one of them.  Clearly her devotion to her brother is more important to her than telling what really occurred.  No doubt they will have each other when they are eventually paroled.

One other theory which was raised early on was that Joana had been sold to foreigners.  Had that really taken place was 20 years too high a price for silence?  I think so!

The manner in which the Cipriano's have behaved over the last twelve years points to them both being involved to a greater or lesser degree.  When they weren't covering for each other they were blaming each other.  They both got their just desserts imo.
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This thread is about Joćo Cipriano, the clue is in the name?  I fear Leonor has always covered for him because she knew that if he was convicted of murder with his record he would go away for a very long time. Joana disappeared on the evenng of the 12th September 2004 and it wasn't until nearly two weeks later on the 25th that Leonor was taken into custody, her brother and Joana's uncle, Joćo Cipriano, arrested two days later.  In that two weeks they had every opportunity to dispose of Joana's remains properly and concoct the story that it was she who hit and killed the child and not he.

We know of course that she retracted her confession and blamed her brother Joćo claiming he Chad taken the girl away to sell to foreigners but that things had gone sour and the girl died.  I will add that many people who knew her have said she was incapable of killing any child, her partner Leandro Silva being one of them.  Clearly her devotion to her brother is more important to her than telling what really occurred.  No doubt they will have each other when they are eventually paroled.

One other theory which was raised early on was that Joana had been sold to foreigners.  Had that really taken place was 20 years too high a price for silence?  I think so!

you cannot state with certainty they are child killes which is what my answer to your post was about. The evidence agaist them was basically non existent apart from the confessions . There have been several miscarriages of justice involving confessions and suspects of low intelligence.
As Eleanor says the whole case stinks and i agree
« Last Edit: November 23, 2016, 01:40:09 AM by John »
as experienced investigators...based on the evidence...we believe Madeleine McCann was removed from the apartment by a stranger....DCI Redwood...Scotland Yard

Neither the McCanns nor their friend are persons of interest or suspects

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The manner in which the Cipriano's have behaved over the last twelve years points to them both being involved to a greater or lesser degree.  When they weren't covering for each other they were blaming each other.  They both got their just desserts imo.


and imo they are both probably innocent
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and imo they are both probably innocent

Definitely 100% not!
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Definitely 100% not!

The verdict was 2 to 1...taht is not 100%...you are statiing your opinion....nothing more
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The verdict was 2 to 1...taht is not 100%...you are statiing your opinion....nothing more

When two people independently admit to a joint enterprise killing the alarm bells start ringing.  Unless of course you are a believer in extreme coincidences?
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When two people independently admit to a joint enterprise killing the alarm bells start ringing.  Unless of course you are a believer in extreme coincidences?

No real evidence apart from confession fro Tw people of very low intelligence
One out of three judges thought not guilty
How far away were they from being acquitted
Your 100% claim is rather balmy
as experienced investigators...based on the evidence...we believe Madeleine McCann was removed from the apartment by a stranger....DCI Redwood...Scotland Yard

Neither the McCanns nor their friend are persons of interest or suspects

If civil questions are being asked can we have the courtesy to provide civil answers.