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Offline jassi

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I'm sure they'll keep going as long as they have the funding.
To all you Amaral campers out there, Hi De Hi

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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -  Almost 10 years and still no solution.

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"traffickers were seen taking pictures of the three-year-old on a beach before she was snatched"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-chasing-important-9389490

What I'd like to know is......

Who saw these traffickers on the beach ?

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How did they know they were child traffickers exactly ?


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"traffickers were seen taking pictures of the three-year-old on a beach before she was snatched"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-chasing-important-9389490

What I'd like to know is......

Who saw these traffickers on the beach ?

&

How did they know they were child traffickers exactly ?

Good questions   

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To all you Amaral campers out there, Hi De Hi

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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -  Almost 10 years and still no solution.

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I'm sure they'll keep going as long as they have the funding.
And hopefully the funding will keep going as long as  SY need it.
If you want to know the real facts read :  http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39076140/Main%20Page

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Of interest is the 2011 smashing of trafficking rings in the Algarve and in the North of the country which coincided with the Porto Policia Judiciaria reviewing Madeleine McCann's case.  Which must have led to new evidence being uncovered as the investigation into her disappearance was reopened and is continuing.

It is heartening to read that the lead being followed by Scotland Yard contains specific information ... and it is possible that Madeleine might still be alive.

The one positive that we do know is that as long as there is information to be checked out, Scotland Yard will request an extension to funding to pursue it.
They've done that already and there is nothing that says they won't require to do so again.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/12/04/scotland-yard-to-pursue-new-lead-in-disappearance-madeleine-mccann.html



The remit of Operation Grange is to investigate ...  "(as if the abduction occurred in the UK)"

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"traffickers were seen taking pictures of the three-year-old on a beach before she was snatched"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-chasing-important-9389490

What I'd like to know is......

Who saw these traffickers on the beach ?

&

How did they know they were child traffickers exactly ?

Sagres man is back - more BS @)(++(*

Mr Krokowski told our ­investigators he liked taking pictures of ­children while he was on trips abroad.

He said he was amazed he had not been contacted since ­police reopened the case in 2011. The Pole insisted: “ I am ready to speak to them any time they want.”

We tracked Mr Krokowski to his office in the Polish ­capital. He admitted he enjoys taking pictures of ­children on holiday but ­that it was for ­artistic purposes. In his first-ever newspaper interview he said: “I take ­photos of old people, young people, landscapes and I have a lot of pictures from places like Thailand, Greece, Portugal, France, with kids on them.

“But I never thought about kids as a sexual object. Nothing like this, never, never never. I am a simple man with normal sexual orientations.”

Goncalo Amaral, the controversial detective who led the original Portuguese investigation before he was replaced, has said he regretted that the Polish police probe into the couple was not taken further and that they did not seize Mr Krokowski’s camera and look at his holiday pics at that time.

But Mr Krokowski, who describes himself as an “obsessive photographer” told us he still had every single picture he took the day Madeleine vanished and handed them over so we could pass them to Operation Grange.

Our man met Mr Krokowski at the offices of his interior design business in a suburb of central Warsaw near the banks of the river Vistula. Smart and professional, Mr Krokowski was in a meeting when we first called but cut the session short in order to speak to us when we ­explained who we were.

Over a couple of hours together he spoke at length about his involvement in the case and how he was eager to clear his name once and for all.

Speaking about the photos from his holiday in 2007, Mr Krokowski said he was happy to hand them over.

He added: “We are not the type of people to lie on the beach so we travelled a lot in that area between Sagres and Burgau and I have plenty of photos from our time there but the police never asked for them.

“I thought once maybe I should show those photos. They are not just ­landscapes, there are lots of people. Maybe something in there could be helpful.

“I collect all my photographs, I still have them from that trip, of course you can have them if they could help in anyway.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-detectives-examine-former-6699750
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 9 years later.

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"traffickers were seen taking pictures of the three-year-old on a beach before she was snatched"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-chasing-important-9389490

What I'd like to know is......

Who saw these traffickers on the beach ?

&

How did they know they were child traffickers exactly ?

They could have been wearing Tshirts.. we traffick kids so you don't have to .com.

 Paedophile enquiries welcome. Mates rates for secret societies...



This is the stupidity of this case: we have a best friend who 'saw' the abductor run away with Maddie but didn't want to upset her friend by telling her! WTF.. then we have people watching Kiddie traffickers  casing a child for kidnap and say nothing WTF?

Then we have  what must be 'dwarfs' stealing a sleeping child through a small window. Oh get real people!

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"traffickers were seen taking pictures of the three-year-old on a beach before she was snatched"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-probe-chasing-important-9389490

What I'd like to know is......

Who saw these traffickers on the beach ?

&

How did they know they were child traffickers exactly ?

It was on their passports/ID cards under "Occupation" and/or the whole bleedin' world knew or did not know I can't work out which it should be, that anyone in Luz standing still, wandering up and down aimlessly, having a drag or having a scoop in the bushes, or shooting up was a "ne'er do well" or "molester of children.
The place was full of them. There were likely more bloody child abductors than children if you believe the scuttlebutt.
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It was on their passports/ID cards under "Occupation" and/or the whole bleedin' world knew or did not know I can't work out which it should be, that anyone in Luz standing still, wandering up and down aimlessly, having a drag or having a scoop in the bushes, or shooting up was a "ne'er do well" or "molester of children.
The place was full of them. There were likely more bloody child abductors than children if you believe the scuttlebutt.

Could it have been at Easter? Weren't the family in Donegal at the time?

A "strange Englishman" was spotted taking pictures of children on a Portuguese beach visited by Madeleine McCann just before she went missing, police files reveal.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2529324/Madeleine-McCann-Strange-Englishman-photographed-children-on-beach.html

I inform you that, upon going to the Zavial Beach concession of Ernesto Joaquim Muchacho , telephone contact numbers, ******** and ******; the same stated that he recognised the parents of Madeleine McCann as clients of his restaurant and that he remembers seeing them for the last time in his establishment in the month of April (Easter holidays), accompanied by their three children. Since this date, as he exercises his function in the kitchen, he does not remember having seen them on that beach or in his restaurant.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOAQUIM_MUCHACHO.htm
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Could it have been at Easter? Weren't the family in Donegal at the time?

A "strange Englishman" was spotted taking pictures of children on a Portuguese beach visited by Madeleine McCann just before she went missing, police files reveal.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2529324/Madeleine-McCann-Strange-Englishman-photographed-children-on-beach.html

I inform you that, upon going to the Zavial Beach concession of Ernesto Joaquim Muchacho , telephone contact numbers, ******** and ******; the same stated that he recognised the parents of Madeleine McCann as clients of his restaurant and that he remembers seeing them for the last time in his establishment in the month of April (Easter holidays), accompanied by their three children. Since this date, as he exercises his function in the kitchen, he does not remember having seen them on that beach or in his restaurant.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JOAQUIM_MUCHACHO.htm
You missed out the most hilarious bit.  "It is relevant to note that the Zaival Beach is normally frequented by nudists, and consequently attracts some peepers/lookers on."

That does it for me.  I need to find out where Zaival beach is to add it to my tour destinations.

On a serious note, does anyone have a brief description of where the (Lagos) maritime police get first dibs?  Are the beaches their territory?

I thought in sorting out the PJ, PSP, GNR, bombeiros, LP, CEOP and OG I had roughly cracked it.  Where does the maritime police fit into this mad scramble?
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You missed out the most hilarious bit.  "It is relevant to note that the Zaival Beach is normally frequented by nudists, and consequently attracts some peepers/lookers on."

That does it for me.  I need to find out where Zaival beach is to add it to my tour destinations.

On a serious note, does anyone have a brief description of where the (Lagos) maritime police get first dibs?  Are the beaches their territory?

I thought in sorting out the PJ, PSP, GNR, bombeiros, LP, CEOP and OG I had roughly cracked it.  Where does the maritime police fit into this mad scramble?

The beach is between Luz and Sagres. The message in the files is dated 9th May, when the Maritime Police were involved in searching the coastline.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARITIME_POLICE.htm
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Mark Williams-Thomas ain't buying it (not that his theory was any better);

Investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile questions theory traffickers snatched Maddie McCann
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/568148/Madeleine-McCann-Jimmy-Savile-sex-monster-theory-investigator 8(0(* 8(0(*
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Mark Williams-Thomas ain't buying it (not that his theory was any better);

Investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile questions theory traffickers snatched Maddie McCann
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/568148/Madeleine-McCann-Jimmy-Savile-sex-monster-theory-investigator 8(0(* 8(0(*
A news story written around a single tweet it would seem. 
Only asking questions....

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A news story written around a single tweet it would seem.

"THE TV investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile as a sex monster has questioned the police's new theory Madeleine McCann was snatched by a trafficking gang".

The word "new" features a few times.
I wonder on which definition of the word new they rely ? I guess in the geological sense of new.... ?{)(**
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seems .they have not got a clue ..all the millions spent  spent ...

and it seem like guess work...in a nutshell ..they have found nothing

you never know they may be saving the best option till last .......no abduction

as said before .....traffickers would have took twins.......

anyone wanting to snatch maddie for whatever reason ...would have took Amelia...


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Mark Williams-Thomas suggested if traffickers had broken into the McCanns' Portuguese holiday apartment in 2007 instead of abducting Madeleine they would have probably taken her sister Amelie sleeping just feet away.

Skeptics have pointed out the younger child was only two and would have been easier to abduct, lighter to carry and smaller to conceal.

The TV investigator has publicly questioned the Brit police's new theory.

They claim she would have had poorer speech skills than her sister – who was then nearly four – and in time would have been less likely to be able to recall her ordeal or true family.

Mr Williams-Thomas, 46, who outed Savile as a paedophile in a documentary after his death, tweeted: ''How many cases exist of traffickers breaking into house & abducting a 3yr old from their bed whilst leaving another younger female child?'

Williams-Thomas outed Savile as a paedophile in a documentary.

For months the Metropolitan Police had believed missing Madeleine was taken by a burglary gang during a botched raid on her family's apartment.

But earlier this week it was revealed they now think she was snatched by traffickers who had been watching and photographing children in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz in the days leading up to her disappearance.

For months the Met Police had believed missing Maddie was taken by a burglary gang.

Scotland Yard detectives have had a tip a Belgian paedophile ring placed an order for a 'young girl' just three days before she vanished.

Portuguese police agree it is the most likely solution to a mystery that has gripped the world for nine years.

Brit officers have been given funding for four more months to find out what happened to the youngster
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