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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2017, 08:43:08 AM »
Goncalo Amaral: " I recall that before we had the official report, we had a preliminary report which indicated that the fluids found in the car rented a month after the disappearance belonged to Madeleine McCann." https://youtu.be/-FKsKD78Qsc?t=1263
Now that preliminary report is not in the file is it. 
The duty of reserve is exceeded for that report is not in the public domain.
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Offline ferryman

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2017, 09:44:17 AM »
Goncalo Amaral: " I recall that before we had the official report, we had a preliminary report which indicated that the fluids found in the car rented a month after the disappearance belonged to Madeleine McCann." https://youtu.be/-FKsKD78Qsc?t=1263
Now that preliminary report is not in the file is it. 
The duty of reserve is exceeded for that report is not in the public domain.

Rob, what Amaral refers to as the 'preliminary report' is actually an email sent by John Low to Stuart Prior, in which he explained one result (the result from the boot) and explained why a mixed result from a number of people (John Lowe wasn't able to determine exactly how many) bore some characteristics comparable with characteristics from the DNA of Madeleine

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2017, 10:03:20 AM »
"To deepen the mystery further, Fiona Payne attests she accompanied her husband to their friends apartment and the couple, both Kate and Gerry, were at home."  https://youtu.be/-FKsKD78Qsc?t=1530

I have only seen this discrepancy being discussed infrequently.  Is this timeline being broadcast approved by Goncalo or was it researched by the commentator?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2017, 10:22:10 AM »

Any Link including reporting of The Gaspar Statements will be removed.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2017, 10:31:52 AM »
Any Link including reporting of The Gaspar Statements will be removed.
Fortunately they don't come up in this interview.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2017, 10:43:38 AM »
Any Link including reporting of The Gaspar Statements will be removed.

There is an email in the PJ files from DC 1756 Mike MARSHALL to Ricardo Paiva. It discusses early evening on 3rd May, and Marshall reports that Fiona Payne;

"states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to."

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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2017, 10:48:31 AM »
There is an email in the PJ files from DC 1756 Mike MARSHALL to Ricardo Paiva. It discusses early evening on 3rd May, and Marshall reports that Fiona Payne;

"states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to."



It would appear that the Paynes gave statements or filled in questionnaires we are not privy to.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2017, 11:02:40 AM »
It would appear that the Paynes gave statements or filled in questionnaires we are not privy to.

As did others;

House-to-house questionnaires

https://leics.police.uk/media/uploads/library/file/op-task-publication-strategy.pdf
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2017, 11:06:23 AM »
There is an email in the PJ files from DC 1756 Mike MARSHALL to Ricardo Paiva. It discusses early evening on 3rd May, and Marshall reports that Fiona Payne;

"states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to."
I saw this statement "I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. In her depositions, she states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to."  It was from Mike Marshall.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2017, 11:14:10 AM »
I saw this statement "I examined once again the declarations of Fiona Payne. In her depositions, she states that she went to the McCann apartment, around 19H00, on the 3rd of May, together with Kate. She states afterwards that, 10 minutes later, the husband arrived; it is not clear which husband she refers to."  It was from Mike Marshall.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
So the statement from the interview says something quite different from the email from Mike Marshall. 
""To deepen the mystery further, Fiona Payne attests she accompanied her husband to their friends apartment and the couple, both Kate and Gerry, were at home."  https://youtu.be/-FKsKD78Qsc?t=1530

Mike says Kate and Fiona were together rather than Fiona and her husband.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2017, 11:55:46 AM »
So the statement from the interview says something quite different from the email from Mike Marshall. 
""To deepen the mystery further, Fiona Payne attests she accompanied her husband to their friends apartment and the couple, both Kate and Gerry, were at home."  https://youtu.be/-FKsKD78Qsc?t=1530

Mike says Kate and Fiona were together rather than Fiona and her husband.

They say the same, but differ from the statement made in the TV show.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2017, 01:17:49 PM »
Any Link including reporting of The Gaspar Statements will be removed.

...and why would that be. They made a statement to the police, the police files reveal what was said.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2017, 01:24:12 PM »
I found the interview to be very interesting. This was before SC RULING.  It really is incredible that many Portuguese feel aggrieved that the parents were let off lightly by not being arrested and charged with abandonment or something. Also the same is felt here by many , they(McCs) just walked right out of a really nasty situation and went on the defencive as many of their supporters continue to do.

oh aw they made a mistake?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2017, 04:12:15 PM »
They say the same, but differ from the statement made in the TV show.
That is what I meant.  Mike differs from the documentary which is where the quote comes from.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Goncalo Amaral interviewed after the Appeal Court decision.
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2017, 04:15:09 PM »
...and why would that be. They made a statement to the police, the police files reveal what was said.
It is not the same case, and shows the mischief the Portuguese were trying to cause when they released documents like that into the public arena but kept many other documents completely secret.  It is a complete conspiracy to cause trouble IMO.
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