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Offline John

Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« on: May 05, 2012, 04:48:26 PM »
Here we go again...I hear you all say and it could not be truer.

Yes, I am afraid the Mitchell family have been persuaded to pursue justice using a machine called a Polygraph.  This contraption otherwise known as a Lie Detector is nothing more than a piece of kit which when attached to the body will display physiological changes depending on various stimuli being applied. The theory being that a different result will be obtained when someone tells a lie as distinct from telling the truth. What those who promote this piece of kit won't tell you is that every person has different physiological reactions and so the one shoe fits all approach offered by this so-called science is basically nonsense.

As many of you already know from having this discussion previously in the Bamber case, there are many recorded examples recently where convicted murderers who passed Polygraph tests went on to admit their guilt. This sort of puts the comments by those who are making money out of these contraptions into context.

We are told that the Defence paid Polygraph operator Terry Mullins the substantial fee for carrying out the test on Luke Mitchell.  As Mitchell is on Legal Aid, are we to infer that the public purse is now paying for this fiasco?  Passing a Polygraph test will not get Luke Mitchell to the Appeal Court no matter how much his principal advocate and supporter Sandra Lean crows about it.   


« Last Edit: July 22, 2014, 03:53:52 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Justice K

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 05:20:37 PM »
Here we go again...I hear you all say and it could not be truer.

Yes, I am afraid the Mitchell family have been persuaded to pursue justice using a machine called a Polygraph.  This contraption otherwise known as a Lie Detector is nothing more than a piece of kit which when attached to the body will display physiological changes depending on various stimuli being applied. The theory being that a different result will be obtained when someone tells a lie as distinct from telling the truth. What those who promote this piece of kit won't tell you is that every person has different physiological reactions and so the one shoe fits all approach offered by this so-called science is basically nonsense.

As many of you already know from having this discussion previously in the Bamber case, there are many recorded examples recently where convicted murderers who passed Polygraph tests went on to admit their guilt. This sort of puts the comments by those who are making money out of these contraptions into context.

We are told that the Defence paid Polygraph operator Terry Mullins the substantial fee for carrying out the test on Luke Mitchell.  As Mitchell is on Legal Aid, are we to infer that the public purse is now paying for this fiasco?  Passing a Polygraph test will not get Luke Mitchell to the Appeal Court no matter how much his principal advocate and supporter Sandra Lean crows about it.   

I can only but agree with those sentiments.  It is not so long ago that Mrs Corinne Mitchell had nothing but venom for the Press or anyone else who spoke out against her.  She now courts this same Press in the forlorn hope that they can somehow influence the forces of justice.  If I may suggest something to her, save the public's money Mrs Mitchell as all you have achieved is to put the spotlight on your other son.  Will he now take a lie detector test?
Law without justice is a wound without a cure.  (William Scott Downey)

Offline Admin

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2012, 06:57:07 PM »
We expect Mullins never asked him who burned the chicken pie that afternoon?   ?>)()<

Offline John

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 08:12:03 PM »
OneSaid is still bleating on about these Mickey Mouse lie detector tests which the Mitchell's took a few weeks back.  I will say one thing and that is they are dam lucky they came out the way they did because if they had failed them they would have been crucified by the Press.  Undoubtedly they would have been well advised in this by Doctor Sandra and would have kept the whole thing quiet.   @)(++(*

There is no such thing as a lie detector because everyone's physiological responses are marked and different.  Anyone making money out of this fiasco should be severely criticised because all they are doing is taking money under false pretences.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Justice K

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 08:17:39 PM »
OneSaid is still bleating on about these Mickey Mouse lie detector tests which the Mitchell's took a few weeks back.  I will say one thing and that is they are dam lucky they came out the way they did because if they had failed them they would have been crucified by the Press.  Undoubtedly they would have been well advised in this by Doctor Sandra and would have kept the whole thing quiet.   @)(++(*

There is no such thing as a lie detector because everyone's physiological responses are marked and different.  Anyone making money out of this fiasco should be severely criticised because all they are doing is taking money under false pretences.

I can agree with that most unequivocally.  The lie detector is a toy, nothing more and nothing less.  It is a dangerous toy because people are being fooled into believing that it is accurate.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  These machines are worthless contraptions of the very worst sort.
Law without justice is a wound without a cure.  (William Scott Downey)

Offline Andrea

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 11:11:48 AM »
Its their reliability that is in question, thats why the results of one wont be used as evidence in English courts.

Offline John

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 11:15:02 AM »
What are your views on the accuracy and utility of post-conviction polygraph testing of sex offenders? And why would a mere 'toy' be used in sex offender treatment programs?

Polygraph tests are a false science irrespective of where they are applied.  There are far too many variables for such a technique to be ever taken seriously.  I challenge any of the operators to prove me wrong!
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline insider

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2012, 03:32:56 AM »
Mitchells supporters are still chirping on like a bunch of chimpanzees about how reliable the polygraph test is.  well they would wouldnt they as there is little hpe of anything else developing in the mitchell case.  the evidence clearly placed mitchell at the scene of jodi jones murder so i have no reason to doubt the verdict which the jury came to. there are lies being told in that family but the problem is it still isnt known by whom.   8-)(--)
Liars come in all shapes and sizes. No profession is without them.

Offline insider

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2012, 03:38:54 AM »
oh and while i am on the subject of the polygraph let it be known that it is a junk sciience and would be better referred to as the scare detector. the operators of this piece of trash are nothing more than con merchants illusionists or psychics who prey on the vulernabilities and insecurities of others.  if such a machine really existed its inventor would be a really wealthy person. bottom line is though it doesnt.   @)(++(*
Liars come in all shapes and sizes. No profession is without them.

Offline John

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2012, 08:52:40 PM »
The truth insider is that the Mitchell camp are scraping the barrel now led by the two cranks from the Wrongly Accused Person Organisation namely Billy (The scammer) Middleton and Dr (St Jude) Lean.  I notice Middleton has had a rant as someone called gerrae over on the blue forum.  He doesn't dare post anything outside of the WAP forum in his own name however for fear of being asked some searching questions about the murder of his daughter in a house fire....correction, two house fires, both of which had been lit maliciously.  He refers to me as a hypocrite but that is choice coming from this beast who sexually abused his own wife on so many occasions.

Anyway back to the Mitchell case.  Luke Mitchell was seen yards from the scene of Jodi Jones' murder just minutes after it occurred.  He was identified by two women passing in their car as he waited by a wooden gate just yards from the path where the murder occurred.  Middleton and Lean have always attempted to discredit these two witnesses because of the significance of their evidence.  In court they were able to give a description of Mitchell on that fateful afternoon down to a tee. They described his long, near-shoulder length hair, the green Bomber jacket with the orange lining and the black t-shirt with the white lettering on it.

It was claimed by Mitchell's mother, Corinne Mitchell, that he was at home at the time of the murder but this was never corroborated by his elder brother Shane who was at home at the time looking at porn on a computer in his bedroom.  Shane went on to tell the High Court in Edinburgh that Luke may have been there but HE DIDN'T SEE HIM.  This seems all the more bizarre when one considers that Corinne Mitchell goes to great length to tell everyone that Luke made the tea that afternoon, burning the chicken pie in the process.  She also claims that Shane came down and received his dinner from Luke before returning to his bedroom. Just one question Shane, who made the dinner as your mother was at work and the pet German Shepherd Mia doesn't have cooking skills?   

One fact remains clear however and that is that someone is not telling the truth and is being less than honest.  Who was actually missing that afternoon, Shane or Luke?

« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 03:09:11 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 09:07:20 PM »
Middleton and Lean have spent years blaming just about every male associated with the Jones extended family.  Each and every one of them has had their personal lives laid bare on the WAP forum in an attempt to deflect blame from Luke Mitchell.  Such conduct is totally unacceptable and Dr Lean wonders why she gets accosted in the local supermarket or cannot even enter the neighbourhood Post Office?  In the absence of any evidence that Luke Mitchell is innocent since basically there is none, we are left with the conviction and the circumstantial evidence that exists.

Luke Mitchell had a history of inappropriate behaviour with the knife he carried.  Just days before he slaughtered Jodi Jones he threatened another girl at knife point and put this girl in fear of her life, one begins to wonder was this the prelude to what happened to Jodi?  It is also fact that Mitchell was addicted to Cannabis and sold it openly to other children everywhere he went.  His bedroom was kitted out with the requisite implements for packaging cannabis for resale. Bearing in mind that Mitchell was only 14 years old at this time one has to wonder what parental controls existed in the Mitchell household?

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Joanne

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 09:08:25 PM »
Is Dr Lean credible? What is she qualified in?

Offline John

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2012, 09:27:57 PM »
Is Dr Lean credible? What is she qualified in?

She is a qualified paralegal and studied Psychology and Sociology to Honours Degree level.   She recently gained a Phd.  (A Paralegal is a paraprofessional who assists qualified lawyers in their legal work.)

Is she credible?    Well NO!  imo   8(0(*
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Milly

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2012, 09:30:53 PM »
Is Dr Lean credible? What is she qualified in?

She is a qualified paralegal and studied Psychology and Sociology to Honours Degree level.   She recently gained a Phd.  (A Paralegal is a paraprofessional who assists qualified lawyers in their legal work.)

Is she credible?    Well NO!  imo   8(0(*


Wasn't she the one behind the Adrian Prout lie detector fiasco which went horribly wrong and more recently the ones which Luke Mitchell and his mother took?

Offline Joanne

Re: Corinne and Luke Mitchell pass lie detector tests - video
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2012, 09:32:15 PM »
So she hasn't 'won' or succesfully helped anyone then?
Adrian Prout had guilty written all over him, even Zippy (my little cat) knew that!  @)(++(*