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Offline G-Unit

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2017, 08:34:24 PM »
You find the idea of a child being abducted so hysterically funny?

I think it's the rather pathetic attempts to explain how the alleged abduction occurred that are amusing Pathfinder actually.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2017, 08:40:16 PM »
I think it's the rather pathetic attempts to explain how the alleged abduction occurred that are amusing Pathfinder actually.
Whatever Kate and Gerry think and say even if it as said by Clarence Mitchell it is still just their opinion.
In my opinion Kate and Gerry are wrong.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2017, 08:41:46 PM »
I think it's the rather pathetic attempts to explain how the alleged abduction occurred that are amusing Pathfinder actually.

I cannot seen anything about an abduction amusing but each to their own.
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Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2017, 08:43:03 PM »
I cannot seen anything about an abduction amusing but each to their own.

Alleged abduction.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2017, 08:45:37 PM »
I cannot seen anything about an abduction amusing but each to their own.
Well if someone suggested it was aliens from Mars would you smile at that idea?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2017, 08:57:39 PM »
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA-VIEGAS.htm

This lady had keys to apartments in Blocks 3 & 4 up until 2120hrs, despite the fact that her normal working day finished at 1800hrs. Who would have checked she'd returned the keys, given Sylvia B was not at OC at 2120hrs?

She doesn't say why or what day. I can't imagine her cleaning apartments at that time unless they were empty. It's possible she was preparing for the Thomas Cook arrivals on 3rd I suppose. I have seen a review where these holidaymakers arrived at 10pm.

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Offline misty

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2017, 09:06:01 PM »
She doesn't say why or what day. I can't imagine her cleaning apartments at that time unless they were empty. It's possible she was preparing for the Thomas Cook arrivals on 3rd I suppose. I have seen a review where these holidaymakers arrived at 10pm.

She does appear to be answering about the day in question. The Thomas Cook arrivals makes sense. I'm not implicating her in any wrongdoing, just wondering who she would be accountable to at that late hour given that the keys were kept in a safe. Surely not the receptionist?

Offline sadie

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2017, 10:20:23 PM »
So let us re cap. Keys were used to open doors to get to Maddie. That kinda ,sorta, means all supporters do not believe in the shutters/whooshing story of entrance and exit?

So now we are looking at the lost key/found by watching paedo gang?  who planned this guy losing a key?  wow that is clever!
I think that you are not thinking very deeply or you are being facetious.  Neither is very attractive when we are trying to help find a lovely little missing girl

Offline Erngath

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2017, 11:01:53 PM »
Well if someone suggested it was aliens from Mars would you smile at that idea?
No.
Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2017, 11:13:11 PM »
The cleaners were;

Catia Cristina dos Reis Galvao
Celeste Libania Dos Santos
Celeste Da Conceicao Antao da Silva
Celeste Libania Dos Santos
Celeste Da Conceicao Antao da Silva
Custodia Maria dos Reis Espada
Deolinda Maria da Silva Cristino Norte
Dina Maria dos Reis Rocha
Dora Isabel Serafim da Silva
Fatima Maria Serafim da Silva Espada
Isaura Romao Fernandes
Marina Paulo Raposo Batista Castela           General Manager
Maria Amelia Furtado Pinheiro Gordinho       Cleans block 4
Maria de Fatima Rodrigues Bernardo
Maria de Fatima Nunes Antonio                    Collects and cleans linen and clothes
Maria de Lurdes da Silva Santos Luz             Cleans for Robin Crossland only
Maria Dulce Pereira Mauricio Espirito Santo   Seamstress. Works in laundry
Maria Guiomar Mestre Fernandes
Maria Julia Serafim da Silva                          Block 5
Maria Noelia de Jesus do Nascimento
Maria Bernadete Calado Gloria                      Maintenance supervisor, not a cleaner
Maria De Fatima De Jesus Morgado                Block 6
Maria Francisca de Jesus Viegas                     Supervisor
Marta Manuela Leal Russo Rodrigues              Block 4
Monica da Luz Louzeiro Dias Romao                Block 2
Natalia da Gloria Soares Camacho
Nazare Conceicao Silva Vicente
Paula Cristina da Costa Vieira                        saw McCanns at Millenium breakfast
Sandra Maria Dos Santos Lourenco Murtinheira
Silvia Isabel Cunha Azevedo Cravinho             Laundry, washed McCann clothes 5th May
Vera Maria Mestre Fernandes Arez                  Laundry
Mario Fernando Madeira Marreiros                   Laundry driver

The cleaners reported to the Laundry building near the Tapas each morning and were issued with the keys they needed which were kept in a safe. They were returned at lunchtime if the cleaner went off site and at the end of the day. On Friday 4th each cleaner was given a picture of the missing child and told to search the apartments  they cleaned with a GNR officer.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2017, 11:13:50 PM »
Alleged abduction.

Alleged or not.
Nothing amusing .imo.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2017, 11:23:11 PM »
Alleged or not.
Nothing amusing .imo.

The parents seemed to be happy when meeting and greeting people while their daughter was allegedly abducted by paedophiles? they went blogging and jogging..

the story being banded about by the key bandits,well planned kidknapping is akin to a Monty Python movie!
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Offline sadie

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2017, 11:23:20 PM »
One can close the door from the outside without a key,but not lock it.
Nor latch it without a key, i think ?

So any breeze would possibly blow it open ?

Offline Erngath

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2017, 11:27:55 PM »
The parents seemed to be happy when meeting and greeting people while their daughter was allegedly abducted by paedophiles? they went blogging and jogging..

the story being banded about by the key bandits,well planned kidknapping is akin to a Monty Python movie!

Who are the "key bandits"?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Ocean Club Keys.
« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2017, 11:32:10 PM »
Nor latch it without a key, i think ?

So any breeze would possibly blow it open ?

Yes
No

or possibly No and No.
The door will latch without a key. One needs a key to enter when the door has been latched or latched and dead bolted.
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