Discussion of points raised in Danny Collins' book Vanished ...

[faithlilly]

A cite supporting your belief would be helpful.

Not sure why you think it's simply a 'belief'. The author explicitly states it just before the foreword in the 2008 edition of his book. 15% of royalties to the OFM fund.

Hardly impartial then.

[G-Unit]

Not sure why you think it's simply a 'belief'. The author explicitly states it just before the foreword in the 2008 edition of his book. 15% of royalties to the OFM fund.

Hardly impartial then.

Thank you. Had I seen that I wouldn't have asked the question.

[Robittybob1]

You have got to remember there was a limited radius of the search in and around PdL and beyond that there seemed to be miles and miles of wild countryside.  There is no way Madeleine walked out that far barefooted.  There was also no time for the McCanns or their friends to carry Madeleine out that far.  Which then tends to leave it up to someone else to have taken her inside a building with in the search zone and kept her or carried her by vehicle beyond that radius.  Both of these actions would IMO be classed as an abduction.  If she was later killed or died for whatever reason the initial crime is still an abduction.

[stephen25000]

You have got to remember there was a limited radius of the search in and around PdL and beyond that there seemed to be miles and miles of wild countryside.  There is no way Madeleine walked out that far barefooted.  There was also no time for the McCanns or their friends to carry Madeleine out that far.  Which then tends to leave it up to someone else to have taken her inside a building with in the search zone and kept her or carried her by vehicle beyond that radius.  Both of these actions would IMO be classed as an abduction.  If she was later killed or died for whatever reason the initial crime is still an abduction.

You have no idea what happened Rob.

Do you have a breakdown and locations of the Mccanns in the hours and days after May the 3 rd.

Have you forgotten the hypothesis that she walked out and then had an accident ?

[Robittybob1]

You have no idea what happened Rob.

Do you have a breakdown and locations of the Mccanns in the hours and days after May the 3 rd.

Have you forgotten the hypothesis that she walked out and then had an accident ?

That is just what Danny Collins was proposing back in 2008.  Not so much an accident but just an unfortunate meeting.  I'd still call that an abduction even if it did not occur in the apartment.

[stephen25000]

That is just what Danny Collins was proposing back in 2008.  Not so much an accident but just an unfortunate meeting.  I'd still call that an abduction even if it did not occur in the apartment.

An accident is not an abduction Rob.

[Robittybob1]

An accident is not an abduction Rob.

Let's say she was knocked over by the fleeing car, an accident.  Therefore if she wasn't abducted she would be lying on the road unconscious.

[stephen25000]

Let's say she was knocked over by the fleeing car, an accident.  Therefore if she wasn't abducted she would be lying on the road unconscious.

I am well aware of that.

[Robittybob1]

I am well aware of that.

So you are willing to concede she could have been abducted from the road following a car accident?

[jassi]

So you are willing to concede she could have been abducted from the road following a car accident?

The McCanns aren't. I wonder why not?

[Robittybob1]

In my theory I combine the thought that she got out of bed carefully, and abduction from the road following a car accident.

[stephen25000]

So you are willing to concede she could have been abducted from the road following a car accident?

I have said there are several possibilities Rob.

None of them have been proven.

She could also have been killed in a road side accident after walking out if the apartment.

[Robittybob1]

I have said there are several possibilities Rob.

None of them have been proven.

She could also have been killed in a road side accident after walking out if the apartment.

Killed, hurt or unhurt.  I think it is significant that Smithman is seen carrying a girl right past Luz Doc the supposedly 24 hour medical provider.

[stephen25000]

Killed, hurt or unhurt.  I think it is significant that Smithman is seen carrying a girl right past Luz Doc the supposedly 24 hour medical provider.

Have you taken your theories to SY Rob ?

If so, have they replied ?

[Robittybob1]

Have you taken your theories to SY Rob ?

If so, have they replied ?

I used to do that but it felt frustrating, so now I'm just working through the forum and social media, FB and YT.