Barry George revisited.

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Michelle Bates involvement in the Bamber case is surprising given what we know about the conviction.  Jeremy Bamber is certainly no Barry George, the two cases couldn't be more different.

Is she in denial or is she knowingly deceiving others?

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Why would you prefer to look at all the conspiracy theories when Barry George confessed to the murder?


“George, whose obsession with celebrity and guns is said to have lain behind the crime, replies:

‘Why? Because I... I was the person who committed the murder.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-108543/Prison-cell-confession-killer-Jill-Dando.html

Why do you think Michelle Diskin Bates was so keen to move on following Simon Hall’s confession?

“As a family member of a terrible miscarriage of justice, the victim being Barry George, convicted of the murder of Jill Dando; the Simon Hall confession is a concern because it is already so difficult for true MOJs to be believed by the public; this confession damages the credibility of all those still fighting for justice.
But this is just one case. The British Justice System makes many, many more errors when it choses to build its cases around a person, rather than on the actual evidence. One confession is not a comfortable situation for those fighting miscarriages of justice, but is it worse than keeping hundreds of innocents locked up for crimes they did not commit? All of us who choose to stand up for justice need to take this on the chin, and move on…back to those who deserve to have their cases reviewed and quashed.
https://www.thejusticegap.com/simon-hall-confession-a-time-to-take-stock/


What lessons did she learn following the confession?

The guilty walk in the footsteps of the innocent.

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There is no evidence whatsoever which could in any way point to Barry George as being the culprit.

“The FDR evidence was not the foundation of the prosecution’s case against the appellant. Without pre-judging what might follow, in the absence of the FDR evidence there was circumstantial evidence capable of implicating the appellant; that much is clear from the detailed consideration given to the other aspects of the case by the Court of Appeal hearing the first appeal. Mr Clegg has accepted that proposition by conceding that, if this appeal succeeds, there should be a re-trial.
http://netk.net.au/UK/George.asp

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We can fulfil Jill Dando’s legacy by ensuring crime science keeps up with the pace of change
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/we-can-fulfil-jill-dando-s-legacy-by-ensuring-crime-science-keeps-up-with-the-pace-of-change-m9mnshjwd

Appliance of science
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/jan/10/guardiansocietysupplement11

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Senior investigator Hamish Campbell admitted there was a slim chance of nailing the murderer
“Jill Dando’s murderer will only be caught if the gun which was used to kill her is found, according to the policeman who investigated the crime.

Hamish Campbell was the officer in charge after the Crimewatch host, 37, was shot 20 years ago this month.

He said: “What remains outstanding is the handgun.

“If that were to be discovered, and could be directly attributed to a person, and that person’s timeline determined for April 1999, then perhaps matters could progress.

“But after two decades, it becomes a remote possibility.

“The Dando investigation is clear on what evidence it has at a forensic level, and what the witnesses said they saw or heard or knew in 1999. They remain unchanged.”

Jill was gunned down on her London doorstep on April 26, 1999.

Barry George, now 59, was jailed for the murder in 2001 but the conviction was quashed in 2008.

TV investigator Mark Williams-Thomas last year claimed he had been given the name of the killer.

But Mr Campbell said all “new leads” that crop up as years go by should be questioned.

“Especially when persons state the theories through the media or TV, and not the police,” he said.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jill-dandos-killer-only-caught-14446069

https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/26/the-empire-struck-back/

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"Barry George had a gun pressed to his head and was told “watch your back” shortly after he was acquitted of BBC star Jill Dando’s murder.

He believes the threat came from somebody linked to the killing of the Crimewatch presenter in 1999.

Making a rare return to the street where he was living at the time, Barry, 58, adds that after one wrongful conviction he fears police will arrest him for ­something else he did not do.

Despite being acquitted 10 years ago he says he does “not feel free” and is “looking over my shoulder”.

After being found guilty in 2001 of murdering Jill, Barry was cleared at a retrial in 2008.

He was living in Hackney, East London, the following year when the chilling threat was made.

Barry says: “When I was in emergency accommodation in Hackney, I was stood in a long hallway and I had a gun put to my head and was told ‘Watch your back

“I went to the police station and told them and they gave me lip service. I was living in fear.

“There were two things in my mind: I’ve been acquitted of this crime and then I get a gun to my head.

“There was talk of a Serbian hit team involved in Jill’s killing.

“We think it must have been someone who had a link to the murder. It’s too much of a coincidence.” He added: “I didn’t get a look at them.”

The Met police confirmed a man then in his 40s reported an incident in Hack­ney in May 2009, but were unable to give full details of the probe.

David Wells, a criminal defence specialist at Wells Burcombe Solicitors, accompanied Barry to the police station to report the threat.

David said: “He was incredibly distressed... sweating, out of breath and in quite a state.

“I’d seen Barry on many occasions and I had never seen him this distressed.

“Barry repeated that someone pointed a gun at him and made a threat – he appeared highly credible.

"He was very afraid. It could well have been someone linked to the murder of Jill Dando.

“It does seem unlikely someone would randomly select Barry out of millions in London and threaten him and put a gun to his head after his acquittal...

"If indeed it was rated as a serious complaint and investigated by police, nothing came of it
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gunman-told-barry-george-watch-12932133

Maybe Barry George’s conscience had been pricked?

Troll exposure blog
“However, this manipulation of families and stories for his own benefit raises some other questions too: like have other stories been manipulated, anonymous sources created on a hush-hush basis for the promise of monies in return.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/auctorem-inquisitor/

Michelle Diskin Bates states:
“It was quite an eye-opener when I became aware of the extent of the symbiotic relationship between the police and the media. However, the releasing of information to the media in the case against Barry clearly emphasised the practice.

Yet Barry George and his sister Michelle Diskin Bates have been in the same such mutually beneficial relationships.

And commended such:
“A great great teaming. Miscarriage of justice victims need strong support and experienced, structured assistance to fight their convictions. Good luck with the new venture.
Michelle
(Barry George’s sister)
https://insidetime.org/are-you-a-victim-of-a-genuine-miscarriage-of-justice/

[Nicholas]

There's a few recent interesting stories about him online.

https://popularcrime.com/2019/04/25/what-happened-to-barry-george-did-he-go-to-prison-for-killing-jill-dando-and-did-he-receive-compensation/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/sister-acquitted-jill-dando-murder-14578144.amp#click=https://t.co/xyiO85vNqE

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-04-25/jill-dando-barry-george-murder-documentary/

Bsrry George’s sister claims,“his physical coordination is clumsy and graceless

Yet he appears to have no problem on a push bike.

[Nicholas]

Maybe Barry George’s conscience had been pricked?

Troll exposure blog
“However, this manipulation of families and stories for his own benefit raises some other questions too: like have other stories been manipulated, anonymous sources created on a hush-hush basis for the promise of monies in return.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/auctorem-inquisitor/

Michelle Diskin Bates states:
“It was quite an eye-opener when I became aware of the extent of the symbiotic relationship between the police and the media. However, the releasing of information to the media in the case against Barry clearly emphasised the practice.

Yet Barry George and his sister Michelle Diskin Bates have been in the same such mutually beneficial relationships.

And commended such:
“A great great teaming. Miscarriage of justice victims need strong support and experienced, structured assistance to fight their convictions. Good luck with the new venture.
Michelle
(Barry George’s sister)
https://insidetime.org/are-you-a-victim-of-a-genuine-miscarriage-of-justice/

Troll exposure states:
“It is my firm view that Williams-Thomas should, if he isn’t already, be under criminal investigation for his role in Operation Yewtree and his faciilitation of “victims” to it. He should also be investigated for the provenance of the faked letter claiming to be from Surrey Police, he should certainly be under investigation for that 2001 News of the World list, and should also be under investigation for the document in which he provides a very weak defence above.


WHY did Barry George and his sister choose to join forces with Mark Williams Thomas? And especially given their history with the News of the World. (You can read Barry George’s sisters version of events in her book - Stand Against Injustice).

[Nicholas]

Troll exposure states:
“It is my firm view that Williams-Thomas should, if he isn’t already, be under criminal investigation for his role in Operation Yewtree and his faciilitation of “victims” to it. He should also be investigated for the provenance of the faked letter claiming to be from Surrey Police, he should certainly be under investigation for that 2001 News of the World list, and should also be under investigation for the document in which he provides a very weak defence above.


WHY did Barry George and his sister choose to join forces with Mark Williams Thomas?

And especially given their history with the News of the World. (You can read Barry George’s sisters version of events in her book - Stand Against Injustice).

2002
“Michelle Diskin was in the front room at her home in Cork listening to the morning radio when she first heard that her brother Barry George had been charged with Jill Dando's murder.

“Barry has been described as a loner. But he's not. He was always out seeing people. He had friends, people who loved him - who accepted Barry with his differences. They didn't know about the attempted rape, but that happened almost 20 years before.

“He paid his price to society for what he did and he'd turned his life around. And, despite his disabilities, he had made a life for himself. He discussed his friends and would say: ”There's a guy down the road and he's my friend. I wash his car for him." After he was charged, I started piecing things together.

“I wash his car for him”

Feasible then to conclude IT WAS Barry George seen washing the windscreen of the car (Or pretending to wash the windscreen) witnessed on the morning of the murder?

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Michelle Diskin Bates

At night, things play over and over in my mind. When you realise this is a miscarriage of justice, it becomes enormous. They have grabbed Barry's life and taken it away from him. They have also taken my life.

'It wasn't an easy thing to decide to become vocal. But I have to stand up for Barry's rights. I'm determined to at least do that.

“In tonight's new hour-long ITV documentary, Jill Dando: The 20 Year Mystery, presenter Julie Etchingham examines the evidence but viewers should not expect any major new revelations.
Michelle Diskin Bates, the sister of Barry George, appears alongside him.
She is critical of a BBC documentary, aired earlier this month, which she says effectively put her brother on trial for the third time.
Neither she nor her brother was interviewed for the BBC programme: "I feel balance has been partially restored by ITV's investigation."
Mr George will travel from his home in Cork to watch it with his sister and they will appear on the Good Morning show today to discuss the case.
Although an Old Bailey jury cleared him of murder, Mr George's name is still, ten years on, dragged into speculation about the death, says Michelle.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1118649/Jill-Dando-murder-Pop-legend-Sir-Cliff-Richard-tribute


“Michelle says it’s “very likely” that the police’s pursuit of George meant the real killer slipped through the net.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/barry-george-would-epileptic-fit-14558209

WHY use the words very likely, IF, as she claims, she knows her brother is innocent? This suggests doubt or imo, deception - based on all her other faux pas or slip ups over the years.

[Nicholas]

Michelle Diskin Bates
“In tonight's new hour-long ITV documentary, Jill Dando: The 20 Year Mystery, presenter Julie Etchingham examines the evidence but viewers should not expect any major new revelations.
Michelle Diskin Bates, the sister of Barry George, appears alongside him.
She is critical of a BBC documentary, aired earlier this month, which she says effectively put her brother on trial for the third time.
Neither she nor her brother was interviewed for the BBC programme: "I feel balance has been partially restored by ITV's investigation."
Mr George will travel from his home in Cork to watch it with his sister and they will appear on the Good Morning show today to discuss the case.
Although an Old Bailey jury cleared him of murder, Mr George's name is still, ten years on, dragged into speculation about the death, says Michelle.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1118649/Jill-Dando-murder-Pop-legend-Sir-Cliff-Richard-tribute


“Michelle says it’s “very likely” that the police’s pursuit of George meant the real killer slipped through the net.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/barry-george-would-epileptic-fit-14558209

WHY use the words very likely, IF, as she claims, she knows her brother is innocent? This suggests doubt, or imo, deception - based on all her other faux pars or slip ups.

WHY did Barry George not appear alongside his sister on GMB? WHY did he drop out at the last minute?

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Naughty beats picked up on this faux pas - https://beat102103.com/news/sister-of-man-acquitted-of-jill-dando-murder-says-life-has-never-been-the-same-since/


December 2018
“I was getting ready to go to a ladies bible study being held in Ballincollig. I thought, ‘I will turn the radio on and just have a few minutes of a listen and I will go.’ And the news came on and they said that somebody had been arrested for Jill Dando’s murder.

My initial thought was ‘thank goodness for that. That poor family.’ The next sentence was his name. That instant my life took a total change and it has never been the same since.

Michelle called her mother who told her to pray for her brother. Those words she said heralded in years of turmoil and pain.

Ms Diskin said that Jill Dando was a “one-off” broadcaster of immense talent and that police were naturally keen to solve her murder.

“A whole year after her death they didn’t have anybody. They had a phonecall from a local disability centre. Barry had gone to one of those that morning.

“He was anxious and he wanted to be seen and he thought he would be seen immediately. That got him agitated. Barry has Asperger’s syndrome which is a type of autism. He wasn’t acting outside what was normal for him.

“The disability centre probably wouldn’t have taken any notice at all only Jill Dando was killed that day. They reported their misgivings about his behaviour and a year later the police decided to check him out. There was no evidence against Barry.”
https://beat102103.com/news/sister-of-man-acquitted-of-jill-dando-murder-says-life-has-never-been-the-same-since/

[Nicholas]

Maybe Barry George’s conscience had been pricked?

Troll exposure blog
“However, this manipulation of families and stories for his own benefit raises some other questions too: like have other stories been manipulated, anonymous sources created on a hush-hush basis for the promise of monies in return.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/auctorem-inquisitor/

Michelle Diskin Bates states:
“It was quite an eye-opener when I became aware of the extent of the symbiotic relationship between the police and the media. However, the releasing of information to the media in the case against Barry clearly emphasised the practice.

Yet Barry George and his sister Michelle Diskin Bates have been in the same such mutually beneficial relationships.

And commended such:
“A great great teaming. Miscarriage of justice victims need strong support and experienced, structured assistance to fight their convictions. Good luck with the new venture.
Michelle
(Barry George’s sister)
https://insidetime.org/are-you-a-victim-of-a-genuine-miscarriage-of-justice/

“Barry George has accepted "substantial" damages over claims he was stalking women and articles suggesting he murdered Jill Dando.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8415772.stm

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“I wash his car for him”

Feasible then to conclude IT WAS Barry George seen washing the windscreen of the car (Or pretending to wash the windscreen) witnessed on the morning of the murder?

Michelle Diskin Bates narrative changes over the years. If she were telling the truth the narrative would remain the same. It doesn’t.

In 2002 she claimed “After he was charged I started piecing things together”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-135212/My-brother-didnt-kill-Jill.html#ixzz5DQUKMFv4

[Nicholas]

Maybe Barry George’s conscience had been pricked?

Troll exposure blog
“However, this manipulation of families and stories for his own benefit raises some other questions too: like have other stories been manipulated, anonymous sources created on a hush-hush basis for the promise of monies in return.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/auctorem-inquisitor/

Michelle Diskin Bates states:
“It was quite an eye-opener when I became aware of the extent of the symbiotic relationship between the police and the media. However, the releasing of information to the media in the case against Barry clearly emphasised the practice.

Yet Barry George and his sister Michelle Diskin Bates have been in the same such mutually beneficial relationships.

And commended such:
“A great great teaming. Miscarriage of justice victims need strong support and experienced, structured assistance to fight their convictions. Good luck with the new venture.
Michelle
(Barry George’s sister)
https://insidetime.org/are-you-a-victim-of-a-genuine-miscarriage-of-justice/

Is Barry George’s sister oblivious to Mark Williams Thomas’s behaviour?

Troll exposure blog
“Greed, self promotion and a complete lack of self awareness.
https://trollexposure.wordpress.com/2019/04/27/auctorem-inquisitor/

Would be interesting to find out what she thinks about the way he behaves, in light of what she’s claimed in her book and elsewhere over the years.

How did Mark Williams Thomas become involved with Barry George’s case in the first place? Who approached who?