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Offline Carana

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1230 on: August 03, 2016, 04:34:05 PM »
Would you have preferred a European Super State led by Germany, a European Army and all the immigrants we can fit in just for openers?

Where are you getting your information from?

Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1231 on: August 03, 2016, 04:36:13 PM »
Who do you consider to be "illegals"? And where do they come from?

Have a look at Belgium and Germany already with their no-go areas and migrant related crime.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1232 on: August 03, 2016, 04:37:11 PM »
Where are you getting your information from?

You didn't answer the question?
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 06:26:01 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1233 on: August 03, 2016, 06:10:06 PM »
We can do all the trade deals we want outside the EU but none can come into effect until Brexit Day.

My question was "can we negotiate a separate trade deal with a country outside the EU with whom a trade deal already exists by virtue of our membership of the EU" ?
One can see the advantages of contemporaneous negotiations for exiting and having new trade deals but will this be acceptable ? One senses a monumental fudge coming up over the horizon to prevent a void occurring ...............
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Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1234 on: August 03, 2016, 06:27:50 PM »
My question was "can we negotiate a separate trade deal with a country outside the EU with whom a trade deal already exists by virtue of our membership of the EU" ?
One can see the advantages of contemporaneous negotiations for exiting and having new trade deals but will this be acceptable ? One senses a monumental fudge coming up over the horizon to prevent a void occurring ...............

And my answer was yes, we can negotiate deals, but they won't come into effect until Brexit Day which will probably be January 2019 at latest.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 06:39:28 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1235 on: August 03, 2016, 06:33:25 PM »
And my answer was yes, we can negotiate deals, but they won't come into effect until Brexit Day which will probably be January 2019 at latest.


That is a significant underestimate. 8((()*/

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1236 on: August 03, 2016, 06:36:03 PM »
And my answer was yes, we can negotiate deals, but they won't come into effect until Brexit Day which will probably be January 2019 at latest.

OK gotcha  ?{)(**
So we have between now and "the starting pistol" to hire all these crack "Kiwi" negotiators we are hearing about ?
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Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1237 on: August 03, 2016, 06:38:42 PM »
OK gotcha  ?{)(**
So we have between now and "the starting pistol" to hire all these crack "Kiwi" negotiators we are hearing about ?

I would say they have hired many negotiators already and will do so throughout the process.  My only hope is that Theresa invokes Article 50 earlier than the end of the year because the sooner we dump the EU the better.

Many other people in Europe want to follow what us Brits have achieved and get out too, that is why some EU leaders have been calling for Article 50 to be invoked immediately before the rot spreads.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 07:41:07 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1238 on: August 03, 2016, 07:13:37 PM »
I would say they have hired many negotiators already and will do so throughout the process.  My only hope is that Theresa invokes Article 50 earlier than the end of the year because the sooner we dump the EU the better.

Many other people in Europe want to follow what us Brits have achieved and get out too, that is why some EU leaders have been calling for Article 50 to be invoked immediately before the rot spreads.

Many other ordinary people in Europe may want to follow us but our economy was in a much healthier state than most
European countries bar Germany. One look at the falling pound & the drop in confidence over the UK economy should make them think twice, given the scale of national debts. The P.I.G.S. nations surely cannot consider it would be in their best interests to leave the EU and the safety net of the ECB - they just wouldn't survive economically.
IMO the rot won't spread but the powerful masters of the EU will want to be seen punishing us, asap, firing a warning to anyone else contemplating rocking the boat.

Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1239 on: August 03, 2016, 07:29:04 PM »
Many other ordinary people in Europe may want to follow us but our economy was in a much healthier state than most
European countries bar Germany. One look at the falling pound & the drop in confidence over the UK economy should make them think twice, given the scale of national debts. The P.I.G.S. nations surely cannot consider it would be in their best interests to leave the EU and the safety net of the ECB - they just wouldn't survive economically.
IMO the rot won't spread but the powerful masters of the EU will want to be seen punishing us, asap, firing a warning to anyone else contemplating rocking the boat.

All the more reason we get out now before we are eternally wed to this wasteful giant and find exit a financial impossibility.  The UK's economy is ranked fifth in the world which will serve us well as we approach Brexit.  When the UK gets its trade deals with the rest of the world regardless of what happens with EU member States, just watch who then will be clambering to follow us into a new world free from artificial EU customs tariffs.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 09:00:00 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline misty

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1240 on: August 03, 2016, 07:51:51 PM »
All the more reason we get out now before we are eternally wed to this wasteful giant and find exit a financial impossibility.  The UK's economy is ranked fifth in the world which will serve us well as we approach Brexit.  When the UK gets its trade deals with the rest of the world regardless of what happens with EU member States, just watch who then will be clambering to follow us into a new world free from artificial EU customs tariffs.

It's going to be the most expensive divorce in history.
What a pity the Turks didn't have their military coup before the vote - the threat of those 70 million potential migrants played no small part in the voting imo. I will be staggered if the EU allows Turkey to become a member.

stephen25000

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1241 on: August 03, 2016, 08:11:44 PM »
All the more reason we get out now before we are eternally wed to this wasteful giant and find exit a financial impossibility.  The UK's economy is ranked fifth in the world which will serve us well as we approach Brexit.  When the UK gets its trade deals with the rest of the world regardless of what happens with EU member States, just watch who then will be clambering to follow us into a new world free from artificial EU customs tariffs.

We were 5 th , before the referendum.

The French overtook us, shortly after the referendum result. 8)-)))

Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1242 on: August 03, 2016, 09:03:13 PM »
We were 5 th , before the referendum.

The French overtook us, shortly after the referendum result. 8)-)))

Nah, a short term blip.  We should be on our way to catching Germany once they have to bail out the other defunct Euro States and fork out for the poverty ridden new ones about to join.  No wonder Angela was so upset as us opting out. 

We spoiled her Euro party, what a shame!   @)(++(*

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eu-referendum-result-has-the-french-economy-really-overtaken-the-uk-in-size-since-last-night-a7101361.html
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 09:09:51 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

stephen25000

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Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1243 on: August 03, 2016, 09:57:09 PM »
Nah, a short term blip.  We should be on our way to catching Germany once they have to bail out the other defunct Euro States and fork out for the poverty ridden new ones about to join.  No wonder Angela was so upset as us opting out. 

We spoiled her Euro party, what a shame!   @)(++(*

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eu-referendum-result-has-the-french-economy-really-overtaken-the-uk-in-size-since-last-night-a7101361.html

Hardly, the Germans have a larger economy and are certainly have a higher productivity than their UK counterparts.

Try harder John. 8((()*/

Offline John

Re: UK votes for #BrExit from the EU. 52% Leave - 48% Stay.
« Reply #1244 on: August 10, 2016, 04:50:34 PM »
Hardly, the Germans have a larger economy and are certainly have a higher productivity than their UK counterparts.

Try harder John. 8((()*/

Germany and France's EU bill will get much larger after the UK pulls out. Add to that the cost of funding several new eastern European States who are all takers and that bill is set to skyrocket.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.