The last video taken of Madeleine McCann.

[Venturi Swirl]

What makes you think that? Our children often went with us for a Sunday lunchtime drink and smoking was a perfectly acceptable accompaniment to a drink at the time. They had crisps and a drink and sat down and behaved themselves.

It’s not behaviour you should have been indulging in, in front of children is it?  Vastly more harmful than letting slip the odd F-word IMO.

[Robittybob1]

It’s not behaviour you should have been indulging in, in front of children is it?  Vastly more harmful than letting slip the odd F-word IMO.

What smoking? "Vastly more harmful than letting slip the odd F-word" 

[Venturi Swirl]

What smoking? "Vastly more harmful than letting slip the odd F-word"

Smoking in front of children is harmful in two ways 1) passive smoking and 2) it sets a bad example and it is a known fact that children of smokers are more likely to smoke in later life than children of non-smokers.

[Robittybob1]

Smoking in front of children is harmful in two ways 1) passive smoking and 2) it sets a bad example and it is a known fact that children of smokers are more likely to smoke in later life than children of non-smokers.

It might be bad for your health but I think it is important for kids to learn to socialise too. 

[Mr Gray]

What smoking? "Vastly more harmful than letting slip the odd F-word"

of course it is...smoking around children is a form of abuse imo

[Robittybob1]

of course it is...smoking around children is a form of abuse imo

It might be today but when we were growing up it was the norm.

[Sunny]

of course it is...smoking around children is a form of abuse imo

Wow I agree with you Davel but all of this is off topic of course.

[Robittybob1]

Wow I agree with you Davel but all of this is off topic of course.

No it is not.

[ShiningInLuz]

of course it is...smoking around children is a form of abuse imo

Since the relevant dates are 2007 (McCanns) and Unknown (G-Unit), your 2018 views have no bearing.

I would have pulled someone up for using the word f*ck, around young children, in 2007.

[G-Unit]

It’s not behaviour you should have been indulging in, in front of children is it?  Vastly more harmful than letting slip the odd F-word IMO.

Really? I can assure you that it was quite normal to drink and smoke in front of children in the 1970's. I believe it's still quite normal to drink in front of them. It was also normal to carry children in cars without a seat belt, to let them play out with their friends and to let them walk to school.

[Venturi Swirl]

Really? I can assure you that it was quite normal to drink and smoke in front of children in the 1970's. I believe it's still quite normal to drink in front of them. It was also normal to carry children in cars without a seat belt, to let them play out with their friends and to let them walk to school.

Did I claim it was abnormal?  No.  I said it was more damaging to the child’s well-being than the odd swear word, and set a far more damaging example.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Did I claim it was abnormal?  No.  I said it was more damaging to the child’s well-being than the odd swear word, and set a far more damaging example.

why are you making comparisons about two different things? if you really want to make a comparison then how about  what caused MBMs disappearance was it parents smoking OR parents leaving her alone to fend for herself, telling us 'it felt safe'. smoking felt safe at some time in history...

This discussion is about MBM not about what we  would do.

[Venturi Swirl]

why are you making comparisons about two different things? if you really want to make a comparison then how about  what caused MBMs disappearance was it parents smoking OR parents leaving her alone to fend for herself, telling us 'it felt safe'. smoking felt safe at some time in history...

This discussion is about MBM not about what we  would do.

You are wrong.  This discussion has been about how some people find it beyond belief and beneath contempt that anyone might utter the dreaded F-word in front of tiny tots, because it is so injurious to their development and social interactions, yet apparently other far more harmful behaviours carried out in front of children are A-OK.  And this is apparently not remotely hypocritical either!

[Miss Taken Identity]

You are wrong.  This discussion has been about how some people find it beyond belief and beneath contempt that anyone might utter the dreaded F-word in front of tiny tots, because it is so injurious to their development and social interactions, yet apparently other far more harmful behaviours carried out in front of children are A-OK.  And this is apparently not remotely hypocritical either!

So, perhaps you can provide a cite for those words being used by a poster. Sorry them are your wordies ...

You took the discussion to a comparison.  One which does not reflect the integrity of the posts.

NOT one person has said swearing in front of children will harm their development. Not one poster has claimed that smoking is less harmful that swearing.  So there you are. all sorted.

Now about my comparison; which do you think is better MBM disappearing due to inhaling second hand smoke OR being left alone in an apartment in a strange country. which has the highest risk to her health?

Oh  don't bother answering we know the answer already.

[Venturi Swirl]

So, perhaps you can provide a cite for those words being used by a poster. Sorry them are your wordies ...

You took the discussion to a comparison.  One which does not reflect the integrity of the posts.

NOT one person has said swearing in front of children will harm their development. Not one poster has claimed that smoking is less harmful that swearing.  So there you are. all sorted.

Now about my comparison; which do you think is better MBM disappearing due to inhaling second hand smoke OR being left alone in an apartment in a strange country. which has the highest risk to her health?

Oh  don't bother answering we know the answer already.

If swearing in front of children is not considered by. some to be harmful in some way, then why so much sanctimonious tut-tutting about Gerry’s alleged use of the word in front of children?  I’m not sure what you’re wanting a cite for btw.  Also, MM disappearing due to inhaling second-hand smoke?  Come again??