Former Portuguese detective Gonçalo Amaral wins appeal in damages trial.

[jassi]

There is provision in the Portuguese Constitution for the secrecy laws to be considerably relaxed in cases of missing children to allow publicity.
I cannot at the moment find the relevant article but it has been published on the forum some time in the past by Carana, I believe.

Mr Amaral could have requested permission from the magistrates to invoke the secrecy law ... he did not ... and that was the genesis of the McCann media campaign.
They did what they knew the authorities should have been doing but were not.

The entrenched views regarding the McCanns have emanated from the many headed hydra spawned by one individual and proves the effectiveness of his campaign against the McCanns ... I have given another example of this phenomenon regarding the experience of a Belfast couple and calpol for their child.

Our differing opinions probably stem from many things ... but the way things are shaping up I think we may well be heading to the place where a disinterested view may settle things.

We are where we are because of a book which if the author had wished to express his freedom of expression could imo have achieved that without riding roughshod over the rights of others.
Which leads one to wonder.

Do you think it is doubtful if the McCanns are allowed the right to a fair hearing in Portugal?  Bearing in mind it is against the Portuguese Constitution (article 15, I think).  If so that would be a sorry state of affairs.

No doubt if they had won this appeal, you would have never considered whether the procedure was fair or not.

Prejudice clouds judgment -IMO

[Brietta]

When Gerry first returned to work he didn't have contact with patients at first, I believe;

It is planned that Dr McCann will be involved in direct contact with patients in clinic after one month.

After the New Year, "as long as we and he are happy with his progress", the heart specialist will return to clinical care, Dr Skehan said.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/gerry-mccann-returns-to-work-saying-he-is-not-expecting-any-significant-developments-in-the-hunt-for-6697318.html

He must be strong to do his job properly despite not eating or sleeping, being anxious, preoccupied and irritable. I bet he was a joy to be around. Mind you, he was able to function quite early on. Wednesday 16th May;

That day, Gerry played tennis with Seddo, David
and the Mark Warner tennis coach. There was no
way I could have done this. As well as being acutely
aware that the last time I’d played tennis was the last
day I’d seen Madeleine, I was far from ready to take
part in anything that could be classified as
pleasurable. Although I’d been for a run two days
before, to me, as I’ve said, this seemed a necessity
rather than a pleasure, and there is no doubt there
was an element of self-punishment to it. All
recreational activities seemed inappropriate,
verging on disrespectful, and because they weren’t
yet right for me, I found it hard to understand how
Gerry could enjoy them, either.
Kate McCann. Madeleine

Mens sana in corpore sano
a healthy mind in a healthy body

[Brietta]

I'm sure that if they had won this appeal, you would have never considered whether the procedure was fair or not.

Prejudice clouds judgment -IMO

I fully expected the judgement against Mr Amaral to stand ~ I am disappointed it did not ~ so if I am to be considered prejudiced do you consider those currently rejoicing that it did not stand similarly prejudiced?
Rhetorical question. 

[jassi]

I fully expected the judgement against Mr Amaral to stand ~ I am disappointed it did not ~ so if I am to be considered prejudiced do you consider those currently rejoicing that it did not stand similarly prejudiced?
Rhetorical question.

You are claiming it is unfair, which is more than mere disappointment.

If Amaral had lost, I wouldn't have been claiming it was unfair, even though I would have been mildly disappointed.

[carlymichelle]

You are claiming it is unfair, which is more than mere disappointment.

If Amaral had lost, I wouldn't have been claiming it was unfair, even though I would have been mildly disappointed.

we  would have moved on with   our lives not     still be    dwelling on it    5  days later 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Mens sana in corpore sano
a healthy mind in a healthy body

...While His daughter was being attended to by Abducting Paedophiles...Yes it is best to play tennis, go jogging and do other non fun stuff, It must have been a huge burden to have to not enjoy doing what he used to enjoy doing but to keep doing it anyway because,well because.. Hm can someone help me out with this?

I was thinking if I disappear via abducting necrophiliacs,my children will have the sense to self harm by playing golf,Tennis,mountain climbing, running marathons and hating every bloody minute of it.

[ShiningInLuz]

There is provision in the Portuguese Constitution for the secrecy laws to be considerably relaxed in cases of missing children to allow publicity.
I cannot at the moment find the relevant article but it has been published on the forum some time in the past by Carana, I believe.

Mr Amaral could have requested permission from the magistrates to revoke the secrecy law ... he did not ... and that was the genesis of the McCann media campaign.
They did what they knew the authorities should have been doing but were not.

The entrenched views regarding the McCanns have emanated from the many headed hydra spawned by one individual and proves the effectiveness of his campaign against the McCanns ... I have given another example of this phenomenon regarding the experience of a Belfast couple and calpol for their child.

Our differing opinions probably stem from many things ... but the way things are shaping up I think we may well be heading to the place where a disinterested view may settle things.

We are where we are because of a book which if the author had wished to express his freedom of expression could imo have achieved that without riding roughshod over the rights of others.
Which leads one to wonder.

Do you think it is doubtful if the McCanns are allowed the right to a fair hearing in Portugal?  Bearing in mind it is against the Portuguese Constitution (article 15, I think).  If so that would be a sorry state of affairs.

I believe the McCanns should be entitled to a fair hearing in Portugal.  I am not clear what the Constitution says on this.

[jassi]

Is anybody claiming the McCanns can't get a fair hearing in Portugal due to a corrupt judiciary ?

[ferryman]

Reading around, it would be quite amusing (were the subject-matter not so serious) to see 'Watcher' (on Amazon) make a complete prat of herself on the question of what, in a legal sense, publish means.

If person A makes a statement to person B (no matter what) than person A has published the statement (to person B).  Simple as that.

[carlymichelle]

Reading around, it would be quite amusing (were the subject-matter not so serious) to see 'Watcher' (on Amazon) make a complete prat of herself on the question of what, in a legal sense, publish means.

If person A makes a statement to person B (no matter what) than person A has published the statement (to person B).  Simple as that.

what goes on on amazon has nothing to do with this forum

[ferryman]

what goes on on amazon has nothing to do with this forum

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Watcher discusses me over there; I discuss her over here.

Fair dos

[misty]

what goes on on amazon has nothing to do with this forum

Does that apply to twitter posts like those by Craig Murray, brought to this forum?

[Eleanor]

I can't think of one sensible thing to say at the moment.  Gut reaction won't do.  But I am trying really hard to see both sides of whatever logic there is.  And there is some logic on both sides.

I think that The Court of Human Rights will have to sort this because no matter who wins the next round, the other party will object.

[ferryman]

I can't think of one sensible thing to say at the moment.  Gut reaction won't do.  But I am trying really hard to see both sides of whatever logic there is.  And there is some logic on both sides.

I think that The Court of Human Rights will have to sort this because no matter who wins the next round, the other party will object.

I humbly beg to differ.

I think the basis on which Amaral was handed judgement in this, latest, court ruling is a pile of crock.

I find it hard to believe that the judge in the previous judgement (in favour of the McCanns) would have overlooked something as basic (in favour of Amaral) as that the McCanns had no right to redress because Amaral's book was published a few days after archiving.

I'm sure she would have fully considered that and rejected the claim (by the McCanns) if it applied.

[G-Unit]

You are claiming it is unfair, which is more than mere disappointment.

If Amaral had lost, I wouldn't have been claiming it was unfair, even though I would have been mildly disappointed.

I was just reading the comments on this thread;

Re: Madeleine McCann's parents win €500k in damages against former police chief.

Lots of praise for the Portuguese Justice system from the supporters, not much criticism of it by the sceptics. The supporters seem to base their opinions solely on whether the McCanns gain or lose.