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Offline jassi

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2021, 12:28:29 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:22:27 PM
Hope is only a dirty word among Sceptics.

That's because we know it doesn't alter events.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2021, 12:30:15 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:22:27 PM
Hope is only a dirty word among Sceptics.
It's only a matter of time before some righteously indignant person full of faux outrage accuses me of hoping Madeleine suffered terribly at the hands of this man.   8(8-))
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2021, 12:32:13 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 17, 2021, 12:28:29 PM
That's because we know it doesn't alter events.
Gosh, aren't you clever.  Guess what?  I know it doesn't either.  It doesn't mean I can't hope that events turn out for the best.  What is the actual problem with that?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2021, 12:33:48 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on January 17, 2021, 12:30:15 PM
It's only a matter of time before some righteously indignant person full of faux outrage accuses me of hoping Madeleine suffered terribly at the hands of this man.   8(8-))

We can still hope that she didn't.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2021, 12:37:23 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:33:48 PM
We can still hope that she didn't.
Indeed.
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"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline jassi

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2021, 12:42:14 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:33:48 PM
We can still hope that she didn't.

Of course you can if it makes you feel better.
Doesn't change what happened though.
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2021, 12:44:28 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 17, 2021, 12:42:14 PM
Of course you can if it makes you feel better.
Doesn't change what happened though.
Can I ask - have you never hoped for anything, ever in your life?  Does the phrase "I hope...." simply not exist in your verbal lexicon? 
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"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2021, 12:48:27 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on January 17, 2021, 12:06:06 PM
Wolters knows, and on 8th December he said;

Hans Christian Wolters told the BBC that while his team does not currently have enough evidence to charge Christian B, he is "very confident"...

Mr Wolters said: "I can't promise, I can't guarantee that we have enough to bring a charge but I'm very confident because what we have so far doesn't allow any other conclusion at all."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55224904

You've completely misunderstood what Wolters is saying..
The conclusion  he's referring  to is that CB murdered Maddie



 prosecutor who believes Madeleine McCann was killed by a German sex offender says the public would reach the same conclusion if they "knew the evidence we had".
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2021, 12:49:17 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 17, 2021, 12:42:14 PM
Of course you can if it makes you feel better.
Doesn't change what happened though.

Who said I thought it would?

Does this mean that you know what happened?  You seem to be very sure.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2021, 12:50:21 PM »
Quote from: G-Unit on January 17, 2021, 12:06:06 PM
Wolters knows, and on 8th December he said;

Hans Christian Wolters told the BBC that while his team does not currently have enough evidence to charge Christian B, he is "very confident"...

Mr Wolters said: "I can't promise, I can't guarantee that we have enough to bring a charge but I'm very confident because what we have so far doesn't allow any other conclusion at all."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55224904

So in fact Wolters is saying hes very confident of bringing charges
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2021, 12:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:49:17 PM
Who said I thought it would?

Does this mean that you know what happened?  You seem to be very sure.

It seems the only person who has enough evidence  to be sure is wolters
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Offline jassi

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2021, 12:52:20 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:49:17 PM
Who said I thought it would?

Does this mean that you know what happened?  You seem to be very sure.

Some thing happened, I'm sure of that. Doesn't matter what it was, it happened
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I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2021, 12:56:12 PM »
Some people seem to hope that The McCanns killed Madeleine.  Now that's a strange one since they can't possibly know.

So it must be hope.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2021, 12:59:00 PM »
Quote from: jassi on January 17, 2021, 12:52:20 PM
Some thing happened, I'm sure of that. Doesn't matter what it was, it happened

So Madeleine could still be alive.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2021, 01:00:54 PM »
Quote from: Eleanor on January 17, 2021, 12:56:12 PM
Some people seem to hope that The McCanns killed Madeleine.  Now that's a strange one since they can't possibly know.

So it must be hope.
I think what they actually hope for is that the McCanns will be punished one way or the other, regardless of what actually happened to Madeleine.  They believe the McCanns are the most contemptible and terrible parents who got away with it and were rewarded for doing so, and they can't bear it so want them to suffer and to be punished.  Some people are very vindictive and emotionally invested in the fate of Kate and Gerry, IMO.
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