Author Topic: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?  (Read 29146 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #90 on: January 17, 2021, 03:27:30 PM »
Hope springs eternal.

That's what I always say.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #91 on: January 17, 2021, 03:30:42 PM »
There's a well known saying that goes something like, if in a hole with a shovel, stop digging.  I believe the Germans have dug themselves into such a hole and have no way out.

They claim 'concrete evidence' that Maddie is dead and that CB did it but cannot take the matter any further. IMHO that is bullshit and they are liars.

I never have Humble Opinions.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #92 on: January 17, 2021, 03:33:43 PM »
There's a well known saying that goes something like, if in a hole with a shovel, stop digging.  I believe the Germans have dug themselves into such a hole and have no way out.

They claim 'concrete evidence' that Maddie is dead and that CB did it but cannot take the matter any further. IMHO that is bullshit and they are liars.

I will remind you of your posts when CB is interviewed...the germans are still working on it

Offline G-Unit

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #93 on: January 17, 2021, 03:41:04 PM »
There's a well known saying that goes something like, if in a hole with a shovel, stop digging.  I believe the Germans have dug themselves into such a hole and have no way out.

They claim 'concrete evidence' that Maddie is dead and that CB did it but cannot take the matter any further. IMHO that is bullshit and they are liars.

They wouldn't be the first to think they had a case solved when they didn't. Sometimes judges and juries are convinced too. At least Wolters is admitting that he hasn't got enough to make an arrest at the moment. Quite why not is difficult to imagine if he has concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead and Brueckner did it. Unless assumptions are involved I would expect that evidence to show that the two of them met.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #94 on: January 17, 2021, 03:44:11 PM »
They wouldn't be the first to think they had a case solved when they didn't. Sometimes judges and juries are convinced too. At least Wolters is admitting that he hasn't got enough to make an arrest at the moment. Quite why not is difficult to imagine if he has concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead and Brueckner did it. Unless assumptions are involved I would expect that evidence to show that the two of them met.
"the two of them met"?  Are you referring to CB and Madeleine?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #95 on: January 17, 2021, 03:55:05 PM »
They wouldn't be the first to think they had a case solved when they didn't. Sometimes judges and juries are convinced too. At least Wolters is admitting that he hasn't got enough to make an arrest at the moment. Quite why not is difficult to imagine if he has concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead and Brueckner did it. Unless assumptions are involved I would expect that evidence to show that the two of them met.

If they have a video or photos of CB with Maddie CBs face may be pixilated... Thats happened in another case
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #96 on: January 17, 2021, 04:03:53 PM »
They wouldn't be the first to think they had a case solved when they didn't. Sometimes judges and juries are convinced too. At least Wolters is admitting that he hasn't got enough to make an arrest at the moment. Quite why not is difficult to imagine if he has concrete evidence that Madeleine is dead and Brueckner did it. Unless assumptions are involved I would expect that evidence to show that the two of them met.

Remebber Wolters has also said anyone seeing the evidence they have would agree that it shows maddie to have been murdered by CB. I think you are totally wrong to dismiss this evidence
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #97 on: January 17, 2021, 04:36:49 PM »
I wasn't  suggesting they had, this evidence... I was showing that evidence can be judged to be significant without a court appearance.
Even if there was CB's DNA on Madeleine's bed cover, you have t still give CB a chance to explain how that could have got there.
Those apartments are hired out and he may have been there visiting previous tenants, for example.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #98 on: January 17, 2021, 05:07:45 PM »
Even if there was CB's DNA on Madeleine's bed cover, you have t still give CB a chance to explain how that could have got there.
Those apartments are hired out and he may have been there visiting previous tenants, for example.

thats the point im making...it would be concrete evidence but not proof

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #99 on: January 17, 2021, 05:24:02 PM »
thats the point im making...it would be concrete evidence but not proof
Define what you mean by "concrete evidence", please.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #100 on: January 17, 2021, 05:25:55 PM »
Define what you mean by "concrete evidence", please.

The term is clear...its  strong evidence

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #101 on: January 17, 2021, 05:28:33 PM »
The term is clear...its  strong evidence
Define "concrete evidence" or "strong evidence".

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #102 on: January 17, 2021, 05:46:33 PM »
Define what you mean by "concrete evidence", please.
It is the definition of Concrete and evidence combined.

Google evidence definition:

"What does evidence mean?
noun. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever."

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #103 on: January 17, 2021, 06:07:51 PM »
It is the definition of Concrete and evidence combined.

Google evidence definition:

"What does evidence mean?
noun. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever."

So as i said it means strong evidence...it doesnt mean proof

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #104 on: January 17, 2021, 06:19:33 PM »
So as i said it means strong evidence...it doesnt mean proof
I'm thinking it is only "evidence" when you say what it points to.

For example, if you say "concrete evidence" against CB,  it is evidence that CB committed some crime or other.
Do you agree that we need to define what the evidence points to?

IMO it is wrong to say you have concrete evidence unless you say what the evidence points to.

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