Author Topic: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?  (Read 29120 times)

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #225 on: January 22, 2021, 11:26:51 AM »
OK.
They're handwritten, so it will take a wee while to redact, scan, upload and post.
Plus quill-written calculations often don't scan too well, something to do with the opacity of Bombay Violet ink colour and light refraction during the scanning process.
Why did you use a quill and ink?  don't you have excel?  It seems to me like you are making poor excuses of the "dog ate my homework" variety.  I call bs. 
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #226 on: January 23, 2021, 11:58:03 AM »
Statistics are irrelevant when it comes to individual cases with their own set of circumstances and evidence.   Statistically its more likely Joanna Yeates was murdered by her partner, but she wasn’t, for example.

Well of course when a case concludes we are wise to the actual event. This case hasn't concluded so we can't claim "the most likely scenario is she was abducted by a paedophile". This is not the "most likely" scenario. If it's proved that this did happen then we can say that it was a rare case of stranger abduction.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #227 on: January 23, 2021, 12:00:21 PM »
Well of course when a case concludes we are wise to the actual event. This case hasn't concluded so we can't claim "the most likely scenario is she was abducted by a paedophile". This is not the "most likely" scenario. If it's proved that this did happen then we can say that it was a rare case of stranger abduction.

We can claim its the most likely scenario based on all the available evidence

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #228 on: January 23, 2021, 12:04:06 PM »
We can claim its the most likely scenario based on all the available evidence

There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction. Unless you think the fact that she is missing is evidence enough.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #229 on: January 23, 2021, 12:07:33 PM »
There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction. Unless you think the fact that she is missing is evidence enough.
So what is your interpretation  of the odds... Do you think it's most likely  the parents are involved
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #230 on: January 23, 2021, 12:10:34 PM »
There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction. Unless you think the fact that she is missing is evidence enough.

There is No Evidence that The McCanns harmed their daughter.  Unless you have some, of course.

Offline kizzy

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #231 on: January 23, 2021, 12:28:34 PM »
There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction. Unless you think the fact that she is missing is evidence enough.

There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction.

Exactly non what so ever - seems the mccs friends let them down on that too.

In this sense, the legal procedures were followed, according to the norms and conventions that are in force, and the appearance of the witnesses was requested, inviting them to be present inclusively appealing to solidarity with the McCann couple, as it is certain that since the beginning they adhered to that process diligence.

Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.

We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #232 on: January 23, 2021, 12:33:48 PM »
There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction. Unless you think the fact that she is missing is evidence enough.
Thanks for your insight.  Perhaps you should contact the Met and the German prosecutor and tell them that statistically it's highly unlikely Madeleine was abducted and see what they come back with.  It may not have occurred to them and they may thank you.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #233 on: January 23, 2021, 12:36:59 PM »
There's little evidence, if any, of stranger abduction.

Exactly non what so ever - seems the mccs friends let them down on that too.

In this sense, the legal procedures were followed, according to the norms and conventions that are in force, and the appearance of the witnesses was requested, inviting them to be present inclusively appealing to solidarity with the McCann couple, as it is certain that since the beginning they adhered to that process diligence.

Nevertheless, despite national authorities assuming all measures to render their trip to Portugal viable, for unknown motives, after the many doubts that they raised about the necessity and opportunity of their trip were clarified several times, they chose not to attend, which rendered the diligence inviable.

We believe that the main damage was caused to the McCann arguidos, who lost the possibility to prove what they have protested since they were constituted arguidos: their innocence towards the fateful event; the investigation was also disturbed, because said facts remain unclarified.
Thank god at least that the Germans have a proper legal system where CB does not have to prove his innocence.. What a disgrace to justice Portugal are

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #234 on: January 23, 2021, 12:39:26 PM »
Well of course when a case concludes we are wise to the actual event. This case hasn't concluded so we can't claim "the most likely scenario is she was abducted by a paedophile". This is not the "most likely" scenario. If it's proved that this did happen then we can say that it was a rare case of stranger abduction.
In this case what would you suggest was the most likely scenario, statistically speaking?  That the family did it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_William_Tyrrell#:~:text=William%20Tyrrell%20(born%2026%20June,the%20time%20of%20his%20disappearance.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #235 on: January 23, 2021, 01:00:59 PM »
Thank god at least that the Germans have a proper legal system where CB does not have to prove his innocence.. What a disgrace to justice Portugal are

The McCanns and their friends were interested only in finding Madeleine, or so they said. They thought the reconstruction requested by the PJ wouldn't help to find Madeleine so they refused to take part.

On the other hand the couple were arguidos, meaning that the PJ suspected them of being involved in their daughter's disappearance.

Taking part in the reconstruction could have shown that the group's timeline and their accounts of the evening were correct. Why would they think that wouldn't help?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #236 on: January 23, 2021, 01:02:24 PM »
Thank god at least that the Germans have a proper legal system where CB does not have to prove his innocence.. What a disgrace to justice Portugal are

I will probably never recover from the shock, horror of what The Portuguese Judiciary did to The McCanns.
Never before would I have believed that a European Country could behave in such a disgraceful fashion.  But then they don't treat Their Own any better, although I would never have known this but for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
If ever all hope is lost for Madeleine then I will remember this.  There is always hope for someone.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #237 on: January 23, 2021, 01:03:46 PM »
The McCanns and their friends were interested only in finding Madeleine, or so they said. They thought the reconstruction requested by the PJ wouldn't help to find Madeleine so they refused to take part.

On the other hand the couple were arguidos, meaning that the PJ suspected them of being involved in their daughter's disappearance.

Taking part in the reconstruction could have shown that the group's timeline and their accounts of the evening were correct. Why would they think that wouldn't help?

We've been through it many times.  The PJ had made their mind up that the mccanns we're guilty.  Have you ever heard any judicial system require a suspect to prove their innocence... It's an absolute disgrace

Offline barrier

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #238 on: January 23, 2021, 01:06:16 PM »
We've been through it many times.  The PJ had made their mind up that the mccanns we're guilty.  Have you ever heard any judicial system require a suspect to prove their innocence... It's an absolute disgrace

You want CB to provide a alibi to prove his innocence, thats a disgrace.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #239 on: January 23, 2021, 01:10:26 PM »
The McCanns and their friends were interested only in finding Madeleine, or so they said. They thought the reconstruction requested by the PJ wouldn't help to find Madeleine so they refused to take part.

On the other hand the couple were arguidos, meaning that the PJ suspected them of being involved in their daughter's disappearance.

Taking part in the reconstruction could have shown that the group's timeline and their accounts of the evening were correct. Why would they think that wouldn't help?

While The PJ refused to give any guarantee that they themselves wouldn't be made Arguidos.

Although how you think this would have proved anything is a bit beyond me.  Most of them were sat at the dinner table most of the time.