Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

There is No Evidence that The McCanns harmed their daughter.  Unless you have some, of course.

You didn't address my point. I said there is little, if any, evidence to suggest stranger abduction in this case. The German authorities will no doubt be forced to concede this - or present the evidence they have in court.

[sadie]

Jes Wilkins' wife says he returned just before 9.30pm. I assume it would take between 5 and 10 minutes to reach his apartment from the location where he spoke with Gerry McCann. So why, I wonder, did he say he spoke to Gerry some time between 8.45pm and 9.15pm? If he spoke to him at 8.45pm he would have arrived home at 9pm, not 9.30pm.

Jes Wilkins wife said he returned just before 9.30pm.
Jez said that he talked to Gerry some time between 8.45pm and 9.15pm

If Jez talked with Gerry at 9.15pm then he would have arrived home just before 9.30pm .   QED



What's your problem Gunit ?

[Eleanor]

Jes Wilkins' wife says he returned just before 9.30pm. I assume it would take between 5 and 10 minutes to reach his apartment from the location where he spoke with Gerry McCann. So why, I wonder, did he say he spoke to Gerry some time between 8.45pm and 9.15pm? If he spoke to him at 8.45pm he would have arrived home at 9pm, not 9.30pm.

Some time between?  What's not to understand about that?

[Eleanor]

I find it interesting because in theory all Wilkins had to do was work backwards from when he arrived home and he would have known beyond doubt that he met with Gerry McCann after 9pm, so why did he refuse to do that? Why did he insist on including the 15 minutes from 8.45pm to 9pm? That only makes sense if it was possible that he met Gerry during that 15 minutes, and if he did he either arrived home earlier than his wife said or he met Gerry on his way out, not on his way back.

Didn't Jez Wilkins refuse to return for The Reconstruction?  I wonder why that would be?

[Venturi Swirl]

I find it interesting because in theory all Wilkins had to do was work backwards from when he arrived home and he would have known beyond doubt that he met with Gerry McCann after 9pm, so why did he refuse to do that? Why did he insist on including the 15 minutes from 8.45pm to 9pm? That only makes sense if it was possible that he met Gerry during that 15 minutes, and if he did he either arrived home earlier than his wife said or he met Gerry on his way out, not on his way back.

And I find it interesting that you keep avoiding my point.

[Venturi Swirl]

What is it about 95% accuracy according to peer reviewed research don't you understand? The alerts can't be discounted as "BS" as someone else stated above. The alerts led to the collection of human cellular material. What the FSS failed to establish was whether some of this material came from Madeleine McCann. Perhaps it was that nosebleed she might of had, perhaps not! We don't know unless the DNA evidence is re-examined when scientific technology moves forward.

Re-examination of the “human cellular material “ isn’t going to tell you if it was a nosebleed or not.

[Eleanor]

Keep it polite, please.

Remarks akin to "What don't you understand"  will be deleted in future.

[Mr Gray]

You didn't address my point. I said there is little, if any, evidence to suggest stranger abduction in this case. The German authorities will no doubt be forced to concede this - or present the evidence they have in court.

The Germans say  they have this evidence so you cannot state as a fact it doesn't exist

[Mr Gray]

What is it about 95% accuracy according to peer reviewed research don't you understand? The alerts can't be discounted as "BS" as someone else stated above. The alerts led to the collection of human cellular material. What the FSS failed to establish was whether some of this material came from Madeleine McCann. Perhaps it was that nosebleed she might of had, perhaps not! We don't know unless the DNA evidence is re-examined when scientific technology moves forward.

I understand  that the dogs have never been properly scientifically tested so your 95 % has little reliability

[barrier]

What is it about 95% accuracy according to peer reviewed research don't you understand? The alerts can't be discounted as "BS" as someone else stated above. The alerts led to the collection of human cellular material. What the FSS failed to establish was whether some of this material came from Madeleine McCann. Perhaps it was that nosebleed she might of had, perhaps not! We don't know unless the DNA evidence is re-examined when scientific technology moves forward.

Because of the nose bleed there is no way that any blood alert can be linked to any supposed abductor, defence already secured.

[Venturi Swirl]

Because of the nose bleed there is no way that any blood alert can be linked to any supposed abductor, defence already secured.

?  If Bruckner’s DNA is found amongst the “human cellular material” then why not?

[barrier]

?  If Bruckner’s DNA is found amongst the “human cellular material” then why not?

His DNA is obviously known, thats ruled him out, unless you think Perlins offer should be taken up to further it.How do we know its not been, he's not repeated his offer.

[Venturi Swirl]

His DNA is obviously known, thats ruled him out, unless you think Perlins offer should be taken up to further it.How do we know its not been, he's not repeated his offer.

If there’s anything to be gained from re-examining the DNA then do it, I’m sure it’s a police decision at the end of the day, not mine, yours or Perlin’s.

[kizzy]

Erm, can dogs speak?  I must have missed that.  What was it the dogs were saying?

Woof woof woof

[faithlilly]

I am able to read & understand how Grime stated his dogs were deployed. There was no alert to the wicker chair by Eddie during his run through. What reason could Grime have had for choosing that specific item for Keela to spend a prolonged period scenting?

There was obviously a reason. There is no doubt however that Keela didn’t alert....and that’s the main thing.