Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?

[Angelo222]

Yes well done.

They were ‘non functioning’ as Kate admits but ‘functioning’ enough to clear their phone memories.

Glad they got their priorities right though a little more searching and a little less phone activity may not have gone amiss.

I agree...they were obviously hiding something imo..

As for the Germans dropping their investigation, it will fizzle out eventually.

[G-Unit]

How you do enjoy using Kate's words with which to beat her time and again, it's such an unpleasant characteristic of yours.  IMO.

That sounds like you're reproaching Faithlilly for noticing, and drawing attention to, the fact that Kate McCann's words and actions differed. What you seem to be ignoring is that Kate's actions cast doubt upon her words. It's an unpleasant characteristic of yours to blame the person who notices an anomaly rather than the person who created it imo.

[faithlilly]

That sounds like you're reproaching Faithlilly for noticing, and drawing attention to, the fact that Kate McCann's words and actions differed. What you seem to be ignoring is that Kate's actions cast doubt upon her words. It's an unpleasant characteristic of yours to blame the person who notices an anomaly rather than the person who created it imo.

Accusing another of their own behavior is a classic gaslighter's tactic.

[Venturi Swirl]

That sounds like you're reproaching Faithlilly for noticing, and drawing attention to, the fact that Kate McCann's words and actions differed. What you seem to be ignoring is that Kate's actions cast doubt upon her words. It's an unpleasant characteristic of yours to blame the person who notices an anomaly rather than the person who created it imo.

Whatever.  You're entitled to your opinion and I to mine.  At least I'm only criticising an anonymous nobody on the net, whereas the anonymous nobody is criticising the mother of a missing child for doing something that she may not even have done herself (did Kate say she deleted the messages herself or did her husband on a friend free up the space on her phone for her, at her behest?) and using it to sneerily suggest that Kate was not bothered enough to get out and search for her own daughter which is patently false.

[Venturi Swirl]

Accusing another of their own behavior is a classic gaslighter's tactic.

LOL

[Venturi Swirl]

That sounds like you're reproaching Faithlilly for noticing, and drawing attention to, the fact that Kate McCann's words and actions differed. What you seem to be ignoring is that Kate's actions cast doubt upon her words. It's an unpleasant characteristic of yours to blame the person who notices an anomaly rather than the person who created it imo.

It's focusing on one phrase out of Kate's book "non-functioning" and blowing it up into evidence of suspicious behaviour that is so unattractive and unpleasant, and well, downright pathetic, IMO. "Non-functioning" means what, exactly?  Unable to walk, talk, breathe?  Unable to perform simple tasks?  Or does it simply describe a state of mind, a numb devastation, the inability to control ones thoughts, to feel helpless and panicky?  Why is this phrase so significant to you, apart from as a useful tool with which to cast doubt on other actions that Kate said she performed that night?  All completely irrelevant of course as she is not a suspect,  a German paedophile and rapist is,  hard though it is for you to get your head around. 

[sadie]

The problem, Sadie, is that if you and I can make the calculation and arrive at the approx. time the men met, why couldn't or wouldn't Wilkins do the same?

How come that you chose the calculation that made Jez and Jerry look liars, when it was so obvious that using the later time given by Brigitte, Jez and Gerry were spot on ?

It seemed devious to me to chose the earlier time, omitting the later time which was spot on?   Why did you do that?

[kizzy]

What a splendid idea clearing their phones of old calls.   It is obvious that they have organised minds and have made the space on their phones for a rush of messages that such a devastating happening as their daughter vanishing would create.

How I wish that I had the same organisational skills.  I tend to miss everything because I haven't prepared properly.  Kate and Gerry did. 

Well done Kate and Gerry.

How I wish that I had the same organisational skills.

What a shame they didn't use their skills to keep their children safe ...and not leave them alone.

[kizzy]

You mean all the calls and texts they made to CB's phone?  That's what you are implying arent' you?

Well seems its what your thinking.

[Venturi Swirl]

I agree...they were obviously hiding something imo..

As for the Germans dropping their investigation, it will fizzle out eventually.

As you believe Madeleine left the apartment and was knocked down by a car after these deleted calls were made, what do you think the McCanns were hiding exactly?

[Venturi Swirl]

Well seems its what your thinking.

I'm thinking that's what you're thinking, am I right or am I wrong?

[G-Unit]

How come that you chose the calculation that made Jez and Jerry look liars, when it was so obvious that using the later time given by Brigitte, Jez and Gerry were spot on ?

It seemed devious to me to chose the earlier time, omitting the later time which was spot on?   Why did you do that?

What is unexplained is why Wilkins chose to suggest he might have met Gerry McCann earlier than Gerry said he did.

[Venturi Swirl]

What is unexplained is why Wilkins chose to suggest he might have met Gerry McCann earlier than Gerry said he did.

It's totally irrelevant, especially to the thread topic.

[Eleanor]

As you believe Madeleine left the apartment and was knocked down by a car after these deleted calls were made, what do you think the McCanns were hiding exactly?

It's probably that Swingers thing again.  We haven't done that one for ages.  But Not on this Thread, if you please.  This is not a Request.

[G-Unit]

It's focusing on one phrase out of Kate's book "non-functioning" and blowing it up into evidence of suspicious behaviour that is so unattractive and unpleasant, and well, downright pathetic, IMO. "Non-functioning" means what, exactly?  Unable to walk, talk, breathe?  Unable to perform simple tasks?  Or does it simply describe a state of mind, a numb devastation, the inability to control ones thoughts, to feel helpless and panicky?  Why is this phrase so significant to you, apart from as a useful tool with which to cast doubt on other actions that Kate said she performed that night?  All completely irrelevant of course as she is not a suspect,  a German paedophile and rapist is,  hard though it is for you to get your head around.

According to Kate McCann non-functioning seemed to mean a lack of strength of some kind;

Mrs McCann said: "The first 48 hours were incredibly difficult and we were almost non-functioning I'd say, but after that we got strength from somewhere."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6692161.stm

For her husband it was;

 the "information void" in the first 48 hours of the investigation was the "hardest thing for Kate and I to deal with".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6692161.stm

By 10pm on Saturday 5th then, they were recovering whatever 'strength' they had lacked earlier because;

The McCanns said "communication channels" had opened since then: "Certainly at the minute we are happy about how information is conveyed to us."

And they said it had helped "tremendously" when they began to take some control of publicity around the case.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6692161.stm

So lack of control and information seems to have been what drained their strength in the first 48 hours.