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Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #510 on: January 26, 2021, 04:03:07 PM »
Amaral claimed they had helped solve over 200 cases...some sceptics beleive it

But does he say "they help solve over 200 cases" or they never gave a false alert in over 200 cases".
Not trying to score points generally interested if he said that.
As we all now 200 cases refer to 200 individual searches but I agree a lot of people especially on You Tube say they were never wrong in 200 cases.

Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #511 on: January 26, 2021, 04:07:59 PM »
actuallly it hasnt...no evidence yet supplied. Good job he wasnt paid by results...he hardly had any

Did we ever find out how much Grime was paid or who paid the bill?  Oh, and to whom did the money go?

Offline The General

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #512 on: January 26, 2021, 04:08:14 PM »
Of course it's popular - it's the only thing McCann sceptics have got, but yet they cannot explain why the dogs which are so reliable and world beating were not sufficient to bring the McCanns to court.  If the dogs 95% definitely alerted to a body in the apartment it's pretty much an open and shut case isn't it?
I also think it's the one facet that most supporters can't reconcile fully themselves. What's the chances, right? They have to assauge the cognitive dissonance by grasping on to anything remotely congruent....the dogs are mad, the handler told Shep to bark there, they're doctors FFS, Grime and Harrison created this branch of pseudo-science in 2005, the handler is a charlatan, loads of people died there, who's idea was it anyway, rubbish batting average, coconut in Jersey, Pilley case was all circumstantial, the coppers ransacked the place, cross contamination from sea bass and sardines from boozy lunches, they weren't even the right set of pyjamas, dogs are trained on piglets I heard, that's not blood, that could be anyone's blood, the dog could smell sausages, the dog was in heat, the heat was too hot, Harrison was the puppetmaster.....

I'm still sat here on the wall of 5a since last week. Like bird shit.
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Offline The General

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #513 on: January 26, 2021, 04:09:32 PM »
Did we ever find out how much Grime was paid or who paid the bill?  Oh, and to whom did the money go?
Well Leicestershire Police and the PJ requested their services, so I would imagine the invoice would have been split, like the bill for a 4 hour boozy lunch at the Tapas Bar.
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Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #514 on: January 26, 2021, 04:13:09 PM »
Of course it's popular - it's the only thing McCann sceptics have got, but yet they cannot explain why the dogs which are so reliable and world beating were not sufficient to bring the McCanns to court.  If the dogs 95% definitely alerted to a body in the apartment it's pretty much an open and shut case isn't it?

No you would definitely need more evidence than an alert from an EVRD dog, apart from maybe the USA where D'andre Lane was convicted with little more than the evidence provided by Martin Grime's dog Morse who picked out Lanes car by cadaver scent from a multitude of others in a car park.
But I agree you do need more.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #515 on: January 26, 2021, 04:14:27 PM »
But does he say "they help solve over 200 cases" or they never gave a false alert in over 200 cases".
Not trying to score points generally interested if he said that.
As we all now 200 cases refer to 200 individual searches but I agree a lot of people especially on You Tube say they were never wrong in 200 cases.

amaral from his documentary...


The investigation uses two very special dogs that are used by the English and North American police, that have successfully solved over 200 cases.


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #516 on: January 26, 2021, 04:16:24 PM »
No you would definitely need more evidence than an alert from an EVRD dog, apart from maybe the USA where D'andre Lane was convicted with little more than the evidence provided by Martin Grime's dog Morse who picked out Lanes car by cadaver scent from a multitude of others in a car park.
But I agree you do need more.

was lanes car the only car that had a child seat in the back....how many other cars were there

Offline Eleanor

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #517 on: January 26, 2021, 04:18:47 PM »
No you would definitely need more evidence than an alert from an EVRD dog, apart from maybe the USA where D'andre Lane was convicted with little more than the evidence provided by Martin Grime's dog Morse who picked out Lanes car by cadaver scent from a multitude of others in a car park.
But I agree you do need more.

There was only one ever Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog and that was Eddie.

Offline The General

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #518 on: January 26, 2021, 04:20:01 PM »
amaral from his documentary...


The investigation uses two very special dogs that are used by the English and North American police, that have successfully solved over 200 cases.
OK, so we've got to the bottom of this now, thanks for that quote.
Clearly he's referring to the aggregate number of 'cases' across North America and English police. I'll wager that includes all specialist dog teams that have assisted in bringing a successful conclusion to cases.
I can see how / why that may be misconstrued by supporters, given my unique, independent eye. Well done again, Dav.
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Offline The General

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #519 on: January 26, 2021, 04:21:01 PM »
was lanes car the only car that had a child seat in the back....how many other cars were there
It was like Fords of Winsford down there, let me tell you.
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Offline The General

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #520 on: January 26, 2021, 04:22:54 PM »
There was only one ever Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog and that was Eddie.
Kudos to you Eleanor, I agree, there was only one. Like Highlander. RIP Eddie.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #521 on: January 26, 2021, 04:23:13 PM »
OK, so we've got to the bottom of this now, thanks for that quote.
Clearly he's referring to the aggregate number of 'cases' across North America and English police. I'll wager that includes all specialist dog teams that have assisted in bringing a successful conclusion to cases.
I can see how / why that may be misconstrued by supporters, given my unique, independent eye. Well done again, Dav.

And what was he referring to when he said Eddie found a body under a flagstone in Jersey.. More BS

Offline The General

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #522 on: January 26, 2021, 04:27:03 PM »
And what was he referring to when he said Eddie found a body under a flagstone in Jersey.. More BS
Well you tell me. I'm led to believe it was inconclusive. But your goalposts are on castors today Dav, like a wonky shopping trolley that gets wellied in to the canal off a pedestrian bridge.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #523 on: January 26, 2021, 04:32:14 PM »
No you would definitely need more evidence than an alert from an EVRD dog, apart from maybe the USA where D'andre Lane was convicted with little more than the evidence provided by Martin Grime's dog Morse who picked out Lanes car by cadaver scent from a multitude of others in a car park.
But I agree you do need more.
Why do you need more if the dogs are so great, as everyone here seems determined to prove?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Icanhandlethetruth

Re: Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?
« Reply #524 on: January 26, 2021, 04:36:46 PM »
amaral from his documentary...


The investigation uses two very special dogs that are used by the English and North American police, that have successfully solved over 200 cases.

Not trying to nit-pick but on that documentary you can very faintly hear Amaral under the much louder narrators voice and the English translation is done by Hi Di Ho/Morais. it's indicative he may have said it but not conclusive.
Not that its too important to me I don't hang on Amaral's every word.