Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?

[kizzy]

The window could’ve also been used to pass Madeleine to a person outside 5A?

But why - why go to the other side of the bedroom making noise doing so when the main door could be opened from the inside leading to darkness and only taking seconds.

IIRC only the mccs said the window was opened  and the only prints on there were kmcs

[The General]

The window could’ve also been used to pass Madeleine to a person outside 5A?

Why not walk out the door, making it even less suspicious? Just carrying this baby to the car, nothing to see here. Or - just passing this child through the window to my mate, nothing to see here.
Did Gerry take the front door key with him, or could he lock it from the inside and leave the key in the lock?

[kizzy]

Why not walk out the door, making it even less suspicious? Just carrying this baby to the car, nothing to see here. Or - just passing this child through the window to my mate, nothing to see here.
Did Gerry take the front door key with him, or could he lock it from the inside and leave the key in the lock?

The door would have just opened from the inside.

[Robittybob1]

The door would have just opened from the inside.

Unless it was double-locked and the key removed.  Which it wasn't; it was just closed from the inside.

[barrier]

The window could’ve also been used to pass Madeleine to a person outside 5A?

Could have, but what prosecution will take that poisoned chalice with out evidence thereof.

[The General]

Unless it was double-locked and the key removed.  Which it wasn't; it was just closed from the inside.

Imagine CB's surprise when he discovered both doors unlocked. Dumkopf. He must've been tempted to abduct all 3, given the ease of egress and their seeming superhuman tolerance to noise.

[kizzy]

Imagine CB's surprise when he discovered both doors unlocked. Dumkopf. He must've been tempted to abduct all 3, given the ease of egress and their seeming superhuman tolerance to noise.

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Easily could have been done - IMO they were there left for the taking. without any protection

Although I do not believe Maddie's fate was abduction from her bed.

[Robittybob1]

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Easily could have been done - IMO they were there left for the taking. without any protection

Although I do not believe Maddie's fate was abduction from her bed.

Has it ever happened that a stranger kidnaps the whole family of children rather than just one?

[Venturi Swirl]

Has it ever happened that a stranger kidnaps the whole family of children rather than just one?

Not that I'm aware of, but there are one or two cases of abduction where one child has been taken and the other(s) left alone that I can think of. 

[sadie]

and the front door was almost pitch back.  The light outside was broken.



This is one of the reasons I think the German investigation is going nowhere.

Why would CB mess around using a window with shutters if he had been watching -

He would know the front door nearest to Maddie bed led into the car park in complete darkness

Being a burglar a quick exit would obviously be priority using the door not a narrow window imo

I believe that the front door was used, both in and out, and the window was an escape route. 

There is a flaw in your argument, Kizzy.
If he needed a quick exit and didn't want to seen, then as soon as anyone checking came to the patio door. then  if he were as agile as CB obviously is, he would be better going thru the window,   To go out through the front door, he would have to come out of the children's bedroom into the living room and potentially come face to face with whoever was checking..   And the checker would certainly see him exiting via the front door, and chase after him.   

I wouldn't fancy his chances against Gerry


CB is obvious extremely agile, but the window would not be such a good escape route for your average man

[G-Unit]

I believe that the front door was used, both in and out, and the window was an escape route. 

There is a flaw in your argument, Kizzy.
If he needed a quick exit and didn't want to seen, then as soon as anyone checking came to the patio door. then  if he were as agile as CB obviously is, he would be better going thru the window,   To go out through the front door, he would have to come out of the children's bedroom into the living room and potentially come face to face with whoever was checking..   And the checker would certainly see him exiting via the front door, and chase after him.   

I wouldn't fancy his chances against Gerry


CB is obvious extremely agile, but the window would not be such a good escape route for your average man

I thought the 'watcher on the balcony' was there to make sure they were warned if anyone approached? It seems they had no faith in him at all, even before he allegedly ran off and left them.

[sadie]

I thought the 'watcher on the balcony' was there to make sure they were warned if anyone approached? It seems they had no faith in him at all, even before he allegedly ran off and left them.

Yep, seems s/he did a good job when Gerry arrived to do his check.  He felt that there was someone around.  If it were CB in there, slim as he is, he could even have been behind the open door in the bedroom whilst Gerry was in the apartment

[faithlilly]

Yep, seems s/he did a good job when Gerry arrived to do his check.  He felt that there was someone around.  If it were CB in there, slim as he is, he could even have been behind the open door whilst Gerry was in the apartment

Who felt that there was someone around?

[jassi]

Who felt that there was someone around?

I think that was one of those hindsight moments where information is later  added to support the narrative.

If you thought there was someone in your apartment, would you not check at the time. ?

[faithlilly]

I think that was one of those hindsight moments where information is later  added to support the narrative.

If you thought there was someone in your apartment, would you not check at the time. ?

Absolutely but wasn’t it being suggested that Gerry knew at the Times?