Should the Germans Have Dropped Their Investigation By Now?

[Venturi Swirl]

Exactly because he has no real evidence against CB and was on a massive fishing expedition imo.

It is possible to have a ton of strong circumstantial evidence which still isn't enough to ensure a successful conviction - see the submarine murder case as a good example.  It was an absolute no brainer who the murderer was but they still couldn't charge him with murder and hope for a successful conviction without incontrovertible proof.

[kizzy]

They did

 Seems this was this the result

December 1, 2020
A leaked note from Policia Judicialia seen by The Sun revealed negative comments made in an internal email following a top secret meeting in Lisbon.

Officials from Portugal’s Policia Judicialia, Germany’s BKA, and Scotland Yard gathered to discuss the condition of the spacecraft.

‘Sorry’
An unidentified Portuguese officer claimed that the German BKA did not have a solid lead and had put the suspect in jail.

He writes: “There is no evidence, it’s just speculation. I was shocked when I read the German case. I didn’t expect BKA to investigate so badly.

added
“This is not a serious and objective investigation, but just to keep the suspect in jail at all costs.

“The meeting was to get the point of the situation. The suspect will not leave prison until the end of the year and will imprison him because BKA wants to investigate two other possible cases of sexual harassment.”

[Holly Goodhead]

The Germans haven't revealed what it is that convinces them that CB is their man.  It's in addition to the things you list above, as they have stated.

If its in addition then what exactly is it? 

[Mr Gray]

Seems this was this the result

December 1, 2020
A leaked note from Policia Judicialia seen by The Sun revealed negative comments made in an internal email following a top secret meeting in Lisbon.

Officials from Portugal’s Policia Judicialia, Germany’s BKA, and Scotland Yard gathered to discuss the condition of the spacecraft.

‘Sorry’
An unidentified Portuguese officer claimed that the German BKA did not have a solid lead and had put the suspect in jail.

He writes: “There is no evidence, it’s just speculation. I was shocked when I read the German case. I didn’t expect BKA to investigate so badly.

added
“This is not a serious and objective investigation, but just to keep the suspect in jail at all costs.

“The meeting was to get the point of the situation. The suspect will not leave prison until the end of the year and will imprison him because BKA wants to investigate two other possible cases of sexual harassment.”

So now you understand they did. If you want to believe this un named source... Probably a friend of Amaral.. Its up to you

[barrier]

You're telling me.  If such a video exists what's the connection with CB?

Any video would need to be forensically examined, Wolters say's he has no forensic evidence ergo no video, photo's etc, imo, (no beggar else bothers with imo though).

[Holly Goodhead]

It is possible to have a ton of strong circumstantial evidence which still isn't enough to ensure a successful conviction - see the submarine murder case as a good example.  It was an absolute no brainer who the murderer was but they still couldn't charge him with murder and hope for a successful conviction without incontrovertible proof.

I dont believe prosecutors/criminal trials require incontrovertible proof just enough to convince a jury or judges.  If in CB's case it doesn't exist then how do we know HCW isn't barking up the wrong tree?!  (Hopefully this isn't going to bring us back to the dogs  ) 

SY thought Colin Stagg was a no brainer but they were ultimately proved completely wrong. 

[barrier]

It is possible to have a ton of strong circumstantial evidence which still isn't enough to ensure a successful conviction - see the submarine murder case as a good example.  It was an absolute no brainer who the murderer was but they still couldn't charge him with murder and hope for a successful conviction without incontrovertible proof.

Did they announce to the world who the suspect was, rhetorical.

[barrier]

I dont believe prosecutors/criminal trials require incontrovertible proof just enough to convince a jury or judges.  If in CB's case it doesn't exist then how do we know HCW isn't barking up the wrong tree?!  (Hopefully this isn't going to bring us back to the dogs  ) 

SY thought Colin Stagg was a no brainer but they were ultimately proved completely wrong.

Shows how fragile concrete evidence can be.

[Mr Gray]

I dont believe prosecutors/criminal trials require incontrovertible proof just enough to convince a jury or judges.  If in CB's case it doesn't exist then how do we know HCW isn't barking up the wrong tree?!  (Hopefully this isn't going to bring us back to the dogs  ) 

SY thought Colin Stagg was a no brainer but they were ultimately proved completely wrong.

You and others are going round in circles... It depends what evidence Wolters has. We don't know

[Holly Goodhead]

You and others are going round in circles... It depends what evidence Wolters has. We don't know

Please don't make it personal.  We don't know that HCW has any evidence. 

[barrier]

Please don't make it personal.  We don't know that HCW has any evidence.

What we do know is, its not enough to question CB.

[Venturi Swirl]

If its in addition then what exactly is it?

I have no idea - they haven't told us.

[Venturi Swirl]

Did they announce to the world who the suspect was, rhetorical.

I believe so, yes.

[Venturi Swirl]

Please don't make it personal.  We don't know that HCW has any evidence.

So you don't accept his word?

[Venturi Swirl]

I dont believe prosecutors/criminal trials require incontrovertible proof just enough to convince a jury or judges.  If in CB's case it doesn't exist then how do we know HCW isn't barking up the wrong tree?!  (Hopefully this isn't going to bring us back to the dogs  ) 

SY thought Colin Stagg was a no brainer but they were ultimately proved completely wrong.

They did in the case I'm referring to it would seem.  They already had a suspect who had admitted to cutting up and disposing of the body, they just didn't have enough to prove he intended to murder her and so were not able to take it forward to trial until they got the proof they needed.