More disappointment looming for Bamber?

[Common sense]

S Lean warned me Lomax was not to be trusted; in not so many words. He turned on me after I rejected him following contact from him re Halls case/campaign

He seems to take things very personally.

I fact checked this tweet. SL was 90,000 places lower in the amazon sales rankings than CAL and CC!


Ben H
@benh1973
·
20 Mar
Colin Caffel's book is doing a bit better than yours. I'm not surprised: it's far more accurate and well researched.  Yours is a load of nonsense and the rankings reflect that.
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SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Replying to
@benh1973
no it isn't. Did you not see the screenshot? Here is another

[Common sense]

Here is a short reminder of the quality of SL's work:


Ralph had no defence injuries consistent with the view that he had been involved in any struggle. With the only injuries, upon his body, being those resulting from the gunshots, it is hard to conceive that he had been subjected to a fierce attack. Additionally Bamber had no injuries suggesting he had fought with his father. The police had carefully inspected his hands in particular and noticed nothing unusual. Even Mugford did not comment on the presence of any injuries or marks upon Bamber's body. If she was aware of such marks then, in her lengthy statements and trial evidence, she would have mentioned them. The fact that this witness, who following the tragedy had seen Bamber naked, did not notice any indications that he had been in a fight strongly suggests that no such indications had ever existed.

Full article here :http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan042.htm

SL also tells people that Bamber would be free by now if only JB had listened to him.

[Nicholas]

Caroline?  - wonder if that's a Freudian slip? Seems like Liz thinks I wrote CAL's book! 

Though with respect, unless she knows of this and the blue forum - which I doubt - she’s probably never heard of you Caroline

[Nicholas]

He seems to take things very personally.

I fact checked this tweet. SL was 90,000 places lower in the amazon sales rankings than CAL and CC!


Ben H
@benh1973
·
20 Mar
Colin Caffel's book is doing a bit better than yours. I'm not surprised: it's far more accurate and well researched.  Yours is a load of nonsense and the rankings reflect that.
2
2

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Replying to
@benh1973
no it isn't. Did you not see the screenshot? Here is another

 

[Nicholas]

Here is a short reminder of the quality of SL's work:


Ralph had no defence injuries consistent with the view that he had been involved in any struggle. With the only injuries, upon his body, being those resulting from the gunshots, it is hard to conceive that he had been subjected to a fierce attack. Additionally Bamber had no injuries suggesting he had fought with his father. The police had carefully inspected his hands in particular and noticed nothing unusual. Even Mugford did not comment on the presence of any injuries or marks upon Bamber's body. If she was aware of such marks then, in her lengthy statements and trial evidence, she would have mentioned them. The fact that this witness, who following the tragedy had seen Bamber naked, did not notice any indications that he had been in a fight strongly suggests that no such indications had ever existed.

Full article here :http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan042.htm

SL also tells people that Bamber would be free by now if only JB had listened to him.

What was is Bamber should have listened to?

[Common sense]

What was is Bamber should have listened to?

Just the genius of SL I presume. 

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You can see that the CT have some success with those that have a biased view of the CJS and superficial understanding of the case.

This makes me question the motives behind the JR attempt - there is surely no evidence left to disclose so is it a cynical ploy to promote the carefully crafted illusion that the "corrupt justice system knows JB is innocent" but prefer to let an innocent man rot in jail rather than admit it? 

The pretence that there is an impressive and irrefutable case for innocence seems to be swallowed whole: 


Havelock Vetinari.
@teadrinker19
·
3m

The blood could have came from an animal. The silencer wasn't even found until days later. The plod didn't examine Sheila because they thought it was a murder/suicide.
How do you know he didn't call him? Were YOU there? Or are you psychic?
Sheila's blood was wet. Hours later.

I’ve seen Liz Yeld on Twitter and everyone laughs at her when she starts going mad. She’s uncouth and threatens people.

They put an appeal up for witnesses, and even claimed a police officer phoned the CT and were appealing for him to get back in touch “in confidence” 🤣

The nutty things they come out with!

Sheila had no wet blood, either. The shine on the blood was from the flash of the camera.

They’re all idiots.

[Nicholas]

It's just a fishing expedition IMO but one designed to give a false impression of yet another deliberate conspiracy that he is the victim of.

For me, the actions of JB ltd reveal contemporaneous evidence about his character which shouldn't be ignored. This is not just a naive man that is easily lead, it is a cunning man intent on misleading others.

https://www.kcl.ac.uk/when-fiction-turns-into-fact

This article was headed,

”WHEN FICTION TURNS INTO FACT”

featuring a conversation with Hannah Quirk referring to ‘Making a Murderer’ & the Steven Avery case among other things.

John Collins, on Innocence Fraud, refers to the ‘drama’ of these types of cases here https://www.iheart.com/podcast/256-roberta-glass-true-crime-r-30951716/episode/the-wrongful-conviction-of-forensic-science-52731384/

He refers to how ‘the drama of these types of cases impairs our ability to look at these cases objectively’

Worth listening to because it’s clearly similar to what Bamber’s attempting to achieve - very badly - via his campaign & legal team

He also refers to the ‘Shawshank phenomenon‘ - recommend this podcast (link above)

The ‘Secret Barrister’ on twitter created a blog on the ITV drama ‘Quiz’ https://thesecretbarrister.com/2020/04/18/does-it-matter-that-quiz-got-the-law-so-hopelessly-wrong/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

The Secret Barrister
@BarristerSecret
New blogpost: Does it matter that #Quiz got the law so hopelessly wrong? https://thesecretbarrister.com/2020/04/18/does-it-matter-that-quiz-got-the-law-so-hopelessly-wrong/…
(I am fully braced for the chorus of automatic "no"s that will congregate in the replies, but do have a read. I'm interested to know what you all think)
4:58 PM · Apr 18, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://mobile.twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1251540712505708544

Many of those associated with the ‘innocence movement’ follow and appear to hang on to every word the SB tweets ?

Worth a listen ‘Damien Echols Chilld Killers Say the Darndest Things” (sic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYOie0tbCVI&feature=youtu.be

“Echols is also an activist working on behalf of others wrongly convicted. In 2016, he became involved in the case of Steven Avery, subject of the popular Netflix documentary series, Making a Murderer. Avery is currently serving a life sentence in the murder of 25-year-old Manitowoc County, Wisconsin resident Teresa Halbach. Like the West Memphis Three, Avery has a large group of supporters who believe he is innocent”
https://the-line-up.com/west-memphis-three-where-are-they-now

Michael O’Brien/Michelle Diskin Bates (sister of Barry George) are like what Damian Echol’s was/is to Steven Avery

Their facade as I see it isn’t working

Only 2 news articles were published on Bamber’s latest BS - the public aren’t as daft as he, and those supporting him, seem to believe

’Making a Murderer: Is our criminal appeals process any better?’ (2016)

Disapprove and denounce the convictions of Avery and Dassey all you like, but it doesn’t seem our criminal appeals system is all too hot on factual miscarriages of justice either.

It’s difficult to see a way out of this hole. This certainly isn’t just a case of simple legal reform. Criminal trials are, and always have been, highly technical affairs — a shift in institutional focus is at best unlikely. The CCRC, on the other hand, is a recent development. It’s more amenable to change, more able to accept wide-ranging reforms, and more able to fulfill its public mandate.

So focus here (http://www.innocencenetwork.org.uk/criminal-justice-system-still-failing-the-innocent) The Innocence Network UK has a pretty good suggestion — repeal the real possibility test, and replace it:

with a test that allows the CCRC to refer a conviction back to the Court of Appeal if it thinks that the applicant is or might be innocent.

Only then will we have a proper recourse available to the factually innocent, the Averys and Dasseys of England.

Sources
Naughton, M (2009). The Criminal Cases Review Commission: Hope for the Innocent?. Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan.

https://www.legalcheek.com/lc-journal-posts/making-a-murderer-is-our-criminal-appeals-process-any-better/

By Owen Bowcott for the Guardian

“Investigations into miscarriages of justice are being hampered by premature destruction of court records, according to a campaign aimed at improving transparency in the criminal justice system.

The Open Justice Charter is calling for restrictions on access to evidence to be lifted and courtroom recordings of prosecutions to be made available for free to prisoners appealing against their convictions.

The campaign is being launched at a meeting in parliament on Tuesday, at which the US defence lawyer Dean Strang, who featured in the acclaimed Netflix series Making a Murderer, will talk about miscarriage of justice problems on both sides of the Atlantic.

Strang represented Steven Avery, a Wisconsin man who spent 18 years in jail for a crime he did not commit, only to be convicted of murder on his release. The documentary focused on failures in the US criminal justice system but also reached a large British audience.

The Open Justice Charter, supported by lawyers who have worked on innocence projects in both the US and the UK, calls for court recordings to be preserved for at least seven years after the end of any prison term and a transcript of the judge’s summing up to be kept permanently and made publicly available.

Recordings of crown court hearings are not routinely transcribed for review and are destroyed after five years. Digital recordings are only held for seven years under Ministry of Justice guidelines.

British criminal justice standards lag behind those in even “the poorest states” of the US, one of the charter’s authors, Emily Bolton, of the the London-based Centre for Criminal Appeals (CCA), claims.

Bolton, who used to work on death row cases in the US, is the CCA’s legal director. The other authors are Marika Henneberg, a law lecturer from Portsmouth University, Dr Dennis Eady, of Cardiff School of Law, and the journalist Louise Shorter, who formerly worked as a producer on the BBC’s Rough Justice.”

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jan/31/destruction-of-court-records-hampers-miscarriage-of-justice-inquiries?CMP=share_btn_tw

[Common sense]

I’ve seen Liz Yeld on Twitter and everyone laughs at her when she starts going mad. She’s uncouth and threatens people.

They put an appeal up for witnesses, and even claimed a police officer phoned the CT and were appealing for him to get back in touch “in confidence” 🤣

The nutty things they come out with!

Sheila had no wet blood, either. The shine on the blood was from the flash of the camera.

They’re all idiots.

I've said it before but who really needs guilters?

Not all JB supporters are fools that instantly believe fake news but there is no getting away from the fact that many are.

I find the fact that JB ltd seems to deliberately appeal to conspiracy fantasists who refuse to check facts very telling.

[Nicholas]

I've said it before but who really needs guilters?

Not all JB supporters are fools that instantly believe fake news but there is no getting away from the fact that many are.

I find the fact that JB ltd seems to deliberately appeal to conspiracy fantasists who refuse to check facts very telling.

 

[Nicholas]

The whole Bamber campaign reeks of dishonesty and pretence which his dim more gullible supporters refuse to see while the more intelligent ones must pass it off as irrelevant as to his character in 1985, as though persistent lying and throwing red herrings are only a recent feature.

The ‘innocence movement’ is incestuous

And why does it appear the JB ltd campaign & others have jumped on the bandwagon of certain individuals from the US?

APPEAL
@C4CrimAppeals
Our legal director Emily Bolton interviews #MakingAMurderer's Dean Strang about #OpenJusticeCharter for
@JusticeGap
 http://thejusticegap.com/2017/02/unacceptably-haphazard-steven-averys-lawyers-support-open-justice-campaign/
https://mobile.twitter.com/C4CrimAppeals/status/827456653125623808

https://www.thejusticegap.com/unacceptably-haphazard-steven-averys-lawyers-support-open-justice-campaign/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/liberty-backs-open-justice-charter/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/open-justice-charter-launch-id-rather-wrongfully-convicted-new-orleans-new-malden/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/ojc/


I find it hard to believe they haven’t heard of John Collins and innocence fraud

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Here is a short reminder of the quality of SL's work:


Ralph had no defence injuries consistent with the view that he had been involved in any struggle. With the only injuries, upon his body, being those resulting from the gunshots, it is hard to conceive that he had been subjected to a fierce attack. Additionally Bamber had no injuries suggesting he had fought with his father. The police had carefully inspected his hands in particular and noticed nothing unusual. Even Mugford did not comment on the presence of any injuries or marks upon Bamber's body. If she was aware of such marks then, in her lengthy statements and trial evidence, she would have mentioned them. The fact that this witness, who following the tragedy had seen Bamber naked, did not notice any indications that he had been in a fight strongly suggests that no such indications had ever existed.

Full article here :http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/legan/legan042.htm

SL also tells people that Bamber would be free by now if only JB had listened to him.

It sounds like SL did no research, or just sloppy research.

How embarrassing to write “the police carefully inspected his hands and found no markings”

The police only looked at his hands about four weeks later — which was pointless on their part as any bruises/scratches would have healed by then.

Ahh! And to write that Nevill had no evidence of having been in a struggle...I can’t even comment on that.🤦‍♀️

[Common sense]

The ‘innocence movement’ is incestuous

And why does it appear the JB ltd campaign & others have jumped on the bandwagon of certain individuals from the US?

APPEAL
@C4CrimAppeals
Our legal director Emily Bolton interviews #MakingAMurderer's Dean Strang about #OpenJusticeCharter for
@JusticeGap
 http://thejusticegap.com/2017/02/unacceptably-haphazard-steven-averys-lawyers-support-open-justice-campaign/
https://mobile.twitter.com/C4CrimAppeals/status/827456653125623808

https://www.thejusticegap.com/unacceptably-haphazard-steven-averys-lawyers-support-open-justice-campaign/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/liberty-backs-open-justice-charter/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/open-justice-charter-launch-id-rather-wrongfully-convicted-new-orleans-new-malden/

https://www.thejusticegap.com/ojc/

I find it hard to be,ieve they haven’t heard of John Collins and innocence fraud

I think they are all in denial about innocence fraud.

But what better way of boosting weak or non existent claims of innocence than associating yourself with a successful brand? 

[Nicholas]

I think they are all in denial about innocence fraud.

But what better way of boosting weak or non existent claims of innocence than associating yourself with a successful brand?

A ‘brand’ the Brits on the whole don’t appear to be buying

[Common sense]

It sounds like SL did no research, or just sloppy research.

How embarrassing to write “the police carefully inspected his hands and found no markings”

The police only looked at his hands about four weeks later — which was pointless on their part as any bruises/scratches would have healed by then.

Ahh! And to write that Nevill had no evidence of having been in a struggle...I can’t even comment on that.🤦‍♀️

SL seems to have worked backwards.

1) Decided JB is innocent.
2) Started writing articles and publishing them
3) researched, but not very well.

He has changed his mind since the above 2003 article and now claims (on only his opinion) the injuries on NBs arms were "clearly" caused by Sheila's long fingernails despite what the pathologist said.

There are many more examples of his poor work, the AK1 rabbits blood nonsense is also something he readily believed at one time and he continues to fundamentally misunderstand the blood and DNA evidence, at one point in his book claiming it has been proven that it wasn't Sheila's blood - before backtracking slightly. It's laughable