More disappointment looming for Bamber?

[Nicholas]

The CT don’t appear to have even a basic understanding of the facts of the case

“Wednesday 4 September 1985 – On returning to Sheila’s apartment, Jeremy received a telephone call from another girl he’d been seeing called Virginia Greaves 
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk


Bamber wasn’t ‘seeing’ Virginia Greaves!

He was ‘seeing’ her sister Anji Greaves - their relationship started 2 days after the funerals

Was Anji Greaves aware Bamber had attended JM’s 21st Birthday party?

“Saturday the 31 August 1985 – According to Julie’s 8th of September 1985 witness statement, Jeremy went to her shared house as arranged, and she acted 'cold towards Jeremy when he arrived at the house'. Jeremy took her out for a meal at Blazers restaurant and explained that he wanted to talk to her about a holiday he had planned for her 21st birthday present. However, as Jeremy was now committed to the farm he would not be able to go and suggested that Julie take Liz.

Was Anji Greaves aware Bamber went to JM’s ‘shared house’ and that he ‘took her out for a meal at Blazers[/i]’ ?

On the 18th August 1985, according to Anji Greaves,

“He told me he had been getting fed up with Julie and asked me how to tell her they we’re finished.”

[Nicholas]

Was Anji Greaves aware Bamber had attended JM’s 21st Birthday party?

“Saturday the 31 August 1985 – According to Julie’s 8th of September 1985 witness statement, Jeremy went to her shared house as arranged, and she acted 'cold towards Jeremy when he arrived at the house'. Jeremy took her out for a meal at Blazers restaurant and explained that he wanted to talk to her about a holiday he had planned for her 21st birthday present. However, as Jeremy was now committed to the farm he would not be able to go and suggested that Julie take Liz.

Was Anji Greaves aware Bamber went to JM’s ‘shared house’ and that he ‘took her out for a meal at Blazers[/i]’ ?

On the 18th August 1985, according to Anji Greaves,

“He told me he had been getting fed up with Julie and asked me how to tell her they we’re finished.”

Where are the answers to these two basic questions - surely after 35 + years someone knows ?

[G-Unit]

Where are the answers to these two basic questions - surely after 35 + years someone knows ?

Jeremy Bamber certainly seemed to be trying to distance himself from Julie on 31st of August. Before entering Blazers restaurant she asked him if he still loved her and he said he didn't know. During the meal he told her he wasn't going on holiday with her and suggested she take her friend. He asked her to promise not to kill herself. [JM w/s 8/8/85]

Was that how Julie kept him as long as she did, by threating suicide if he left her?

[Nicholas]

Jeremy Bamber certainly seemed to be trying to distance himself from Julie on 31st of August. Before entering Blazers restaurant she asked him if he still loved her and he said he didn't know. During the meal he told her he wasn't going on holiday with her and suggested she take her friend. He asked her to promise not to kill herself. [JM w/s 8/8/85]

Was that how Julie kept him as long as she did, by threating suicide if he left her?

What makes you think, in the first place, JM ever threatened Bamber in this way?

“He asked her to promise not to kill herself“

“Sunday 1 September 1985 – Liz’s statement says that Julie had called her in floods of tears wanting to meet up[5]. Liz arranged for Julie to come to her place of work where Julie said that Jeremy had arranged to see her on the previous Saturday but had not turned up. Eventually he’d arrived at Julie’s that evening and said that he 'didn’t want to see her anymore' and that he had only been using her for his ‘own ends’

[Nicholas]

Jeremy Bamber certainly seemed to be trying to distance himself from Julie on 31st of August. Before entering Blazers restaurant she asked him if he still loved her and he said he didn't know. During the meal he told her he wasn't going on holiday with her and suggested she take her friend. He asked her to promise not to kill herself. [JM w/s 8/8/85]

Sounds and reads like Bamber was making fun of JM in a cruel way

[Nicholas]

Where did the narrative originate that JM went to the police ‘with the hit man story’ ?

JM went to police with a whole lot more than this

The CT write here https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/julie-mugford-volunteer-witness

“The last week is an audio drama performed by professional actors. It reconstructs events leading up to Julie Mugford 'volunteering to go to the police' with the hit man story. Everything created comes from police statements but many events and actions sound ludicrous, make up your own mind and take a listen below. 

“Julie Mugford was the girlfriend of Jeremy Bamber who testified against him in court, stating that he had told her he planned to kill his family for over a year, and that he’d hired a hit man to carry out the shootings. This page contains reference to the evidence that supports the dramatisation below.

JM was not the girlfriend of Bamber - Anji Greaves was!

What did Bamber tell Anji Greaves about ‘events’ ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Barry George's sister and fruitloop. Her endorsement is the kiss of death to anyone's claims of innocence and she endorses every claim, no matter how fraudulent. 

It’s very telling Barry George never got compensation for his supposed MOJ...

It’s possible he didn’t kill Jill Dando, but that firearm speck deep inside his pocket — which matched the gun that killed Jill — what’s the chances of THAT getting into his pocket? Hw he got off on just thta is astonishing...

Not forgetting he was found guilty of attempted rape years previously, two indecent assaults, he was another pathological liar and a Walter Mitty: he even changed his name several times to Lee Majors, Paul Gadd (vile Gary Glitter), one of the Iranian SAS men, Freddie Mercury’s cousin’s real name...and was obsessed with the BBC.

He was also a convicted stalker of women; beat up his wife who was a marriage of convenience; was violent; and suffered several Personality Disorders. He claims he’s an Idiot with an IQ of 75, but spa other psychiatrist tested him and said he was of average intelligence. Whatever, he was definitely abnormal.

Witnesses saw him near Jill’s house that day, and half an hour after she was shot dead he rushed into some kind of place that deals with people suffering disorders and actually told them to note down the time he’d gone in there...

Of course, he could be innocent, but the fact the courts refused any compensation is telling in my opinion...

If he did kill Jill it doesn’t make any odds in a way that he’s been let out — his life will always be rubbish.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Sounds and reads like Bamber was making fun of JM in a cruel way

The cunning psycho was planting the seed in her head...

[Nicholas]

It’s very telling Barry George never got compensation for his supposed MOJ...

It’s possible he didn’t kill Jill Dando, but that firearm speck deep inside his pocket — which matched the gun that killed Jill — what’s the chances of THAT getting into his pocket? Hw he got off on just thta is astonishing...

Not forgetting he was found guilty of attempted rape years previously, two indecent assaults, he was another pathological liar and a Walter Mitty: he even changed his name several times to Lee Majors, Paul Gadd (vile Gary Glitter), one of the Iranian SAS men, Freddie Mercury’s cousin’s real name...and was obsessed with the BBC.

He was also a convicted stalker of women; beat up his wife who was a marriage of convenience; was violent; and suffered several Personality Disorders. He claims he’s an Idiot with an IQ of 75, but spa other psychiatrist tested him and said he was of average intelligence. Whatever, he was definitely abnormal.

Witnesses saw him near Jill’s house that day, and half an hour after she was shot dead he rushed into some kind of place that deals with people suffering disorders and actually told them to note down the time he’d gone in there...

Of course, he could be innocent, but the fact the courts refused any compensation is telling in my opinion...

If he did kill Jill it doesn’t make any odds in a way that he’s been let out — his life will always be rubbish.

It’s also very telling how Michelle Diskin Bates never mentioned the suicide of David Dobbins in her book.

“Mr Dobbins befriended George in the mid-1980s when they lived in the Stanhope Gardens Hotel, a bed and breakfast hostel in Kensington, west London. At the time Mr Dobbins was 13. George had just been released from prison after a conviction for attempted rape.Mr Dobbins had told the trial that he knew George as Thomas Palmer, the name of an SAS soldier involved in the rescue of hostages from the Iranian embassy siege of 1980.
He told the jury that George owned an imitation Heckler and Koch MP5 machine gun, and a blank-firing handgun, as well as "a few knives".Mr Dobbins's family moved to another address in 1986, but George continued to see them. Mr Dobbins had recalled how he heard a noise outside the basement flat and opened the door to investigate. "I saw Mr Palmer. He pushed his way in with a handgun and he discharged a shot. It was pretty scary. It was like he was trying to frighten us."George was wearing a combat jacket, military belt and jeans, and put the gun into his belt after he fired it. The prosecution case relied on evidence that George, 41, was "obsessed" with guns and the military.
 https://www.theguardian.com/media/2001/aug/21/broadcasting.jilldando

Their uncle Michael Bourke mentions him here https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ltgorwROQfwC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=barry+george+friend+david&source=bl&ots=OsBc4JyV9C&sig=ACfU3U3Zwc4AU010U8bScVsb7HH181p8GA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwis8rjMn6npAhU-QkEAHVW0DhIQ6AEwC3oECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=barry%20george%20friend%20david&f=false

[Nicholas]

Jeremy Bamber certainly seemed to be trying to distance himself from Julie on 31st of August. Before entering Blazers restaurant she asked him if he still loved her and he said he didn't know. During the meal he told her he wasn't going on holiday with her and suggested she take her friend. He asked her to promise not to kill herself. [JM w/s 8/8/85]

Thought Bamber had said he was going to take JM to the Bahamas for her twenty-first?

‘Julie cancelled the holiday she and Liz had planned after Jeremy said he was taking her to the Bahamas as a twenty-first birthday present. But Jeremy was far from dedicated to their relationship. He had telephoned Sue in Jersey, asking if she still loved him, and persued a Colchester barmaid named Anne, seven years his senior. Anne agreed to a couple of dates, during which Jeremy showed her his family’s farmland and Osea Road, telling her that he was very wealthy and intended to buy a Porsche someday.

Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from the book ‘The murders at White House farm’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=jeremy+bamber+chinese+trick+box&source=bl&ots=jQH-J5AeC1&sig=ACfU3U0BryXpogrDnkw5Ikx_1Yk1kH8qaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ6q_iy6vpAhWTilwKHc-SDNQQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20chinese%20trick%20box&f=false

[Nicholas]

“While Bamber’s lawyers do not dispute that Caffell had two gunshot wounds by the time official police photographs were taken, they believe the failure to inform the jury of these statements prejudiced the case. One theory is that a gun went off accidentally in the chaos that followed after numerous police officers entered the farmhouse.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/11/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-say-new-evidence-undermines-conviction

Suspect if the jury had seen the statements from all of Bamber’s other victims, i.e Virginia & Anji Greaves, Sue Ford, Anne etc, it would have been a unanimous verdict

The jury were never informed of ‘coercive control’

”A psychopath may target a victim with the intent of using them and causing harm, or they may initially experience genuine attraction. Even if they do, their inability to love or to form an attachment guarantees that things will end badly. Whatever their motivation, their goals are to manipulate, dominate and control, and they will end up devaluing and abusing their victim.

In a profound act of betrayal, he or she only pretends to love (even if they start out with genuine attraction, since psychopaths don’t have the ability to love) — and does a convincing job of it — in order to gain your love and trust, which is what makes carrying out their manipulative agenda possible. They gain power and control through manipulation and use their victim for whatever they desire without any remorse, while creating an ever-worsening emotional hell. Their grandiosity swells as they watch their victim try in vain to save the relationship they truly believed was the best one of their lives.

The predator gets bored and devalues and abuses the victim, and needs the thrill of someone new. The psychopath must act out this manipulative cycle repetitively and compulsively in order to experience feelings of exhilaration and contempt (contemptuous delight), which perpetuate his or her feeling of grandiosity, according to Dr. Reid Moloy, a respected psychopathy researcher. The psychopath often ends the relationship with a stunning and completely abnormal display of contempt, coldness or indifference. If he or she is using the relationship to provide an illusion of normalcy, they may stick around long-term. If the victim ends the relationship, the psychopath’s grandiosity will suffer and they may attempt to return. Often, they restore their grandiosity by moving on to someone new, without looking back.
http://psychopathsandlove.com/emotional-rape/.

Was Bamber’s case prejudiced because this evidence was never explored at his trial

[Nicholas]

Barry George's sister and fruitloop. Her endorsement is the kiss of death to anyone's claims of innocence and she endorses every claim, no matter how fraudulent. 

Michelle Diskin Bates Retweeted
Joshua D Jones
@BlueCheezWhisky
God is the great Redeemer and can turn the worst situations for good.
But He is never the authour of sin.
That's our doing.
5:20 PM · May 9, 2020·Twitter for Android
https://mobile.twitter.com/BlueCheezWhisky/status/1259156352179621890

[ISpyWithMyEye]

“While Bamber’s lawyers do not dispute that Caffell had two gunshot wounds by the time official police photographs were taken, they believe the failure to inform the jury of these statements prejudiced the case. One theory is that a gun went off accidentally in the chaos that followed after numerous police officers entered the farmhouse.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/11/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-say-new-evidence-undermines-conviction

Suspect if the jury had seen the statements from all of Bamber’s other victims, i.e Virginia & Anji Greaves, Sue Ford, Anne etc, it would have been a unanimous verdict

The jury were never informed of ‘coercive control’

Was Bamber’s case prejudiced because this evidence was never explored at his trial

That’s utter nonsense

Sheila was shot twice in the neck HOURS before being found

Dead people don’t bleed....both bullet holes in Sheila’s neck poured with blood

Ridiculous

[Nicholas]

It seems the much talked about judicial review has already failed on the papers. I was foolish enough to gain the probably deliberately intended false impression that permission for the JR had already been granted and the hearing they were waiting for was the JR itself, not a renewal hearing.   

Apparently CAL has been given files that Bamber hasn't seen and he thinks he has a right to nitpick for typos to exploit no matter how irrelevant a fishing expedition it is.

We shall see.


Tru Benjamin
@tru68
Good luck to #JeremyBamber and his legal team who are seeking permission for judicial review in a renewed oral application in Leeds Administrative Court tomorrow against the CPS refusal to disclose vital evidence in his case
#Justice

https://twitter.com/tru68/status/125582097816214323

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/30/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-seek-review-of-cps-refusal-to-disclose-evidence


Mark Newby a solicitor advocate at Quality Solicitors Jordans, which represents Bamber, said: “Since proceedings were issued it came to our attention that the author of the book the ITV drama was based upon appears to have received material directly from the police.

“It cannot be right that an author has been given material that Mr Bamber’s defence team have not seen, particularly in light of the persistent refusal by the CPS to disclose specific material we have been asking for. It raises the question of whether a work of fiction is more important than justice.”

Bamber, speaking from Wakefield prison, told the Guardian: “It is disgusting that a third party was provided with documents and sensitive photographs when Essex police and the CPS have been unwilling to hand over material to our own forensic experts to prove that two silencers were recovered from the scene.

“Despite court orders being in place for them to make full disclosure to us, which they deliberately chose to ignore, when Carol Ann Lee requested material she was given it without a second thought. Where is my justice?”

A spokesperson for Essex police said: “We are aware of the claim made by Jeremy Bamber and can confirm that this matter forms part of an ongoing judicial review. As this matter is therefore the subject of a forthcoming legal hearing it would not be appropriate for us to comment further.”

May 1, 2020
The Judicial Review of Jeremy Bamber was heard today Via Skype by the Honorourable Mr Justice Knowles and was on Jeremy Bamber's application adjourned

Press Statement
Jeremy Bamber continues to pursue his judicial review against the Director of Public Prosecutions over serious non disclosures and non-compliance with previous Court of Appeal orders .

The matter came before the Honorarable Mr Justice Knowles on 1st May 2020 . On the 30th April we received from the Crown a Skeleton Argument which raised a significant amount of material upon which fairness dictated that Jeremy Bamber should be able to comment upon

The Crown opposed the application to adjourn but it was granted .

Accordingly the matter has now been adjourned until 29th May and we expect to file a robust response to the Crown in advance of the hearing

At this stage no skeleton arguments will be released from the case but the Court will reconsider release once the amended skeleton argument has been filed .

Mark Newby, solicitor

[Nicholas]

This is embarrassing

Mark Newby
“The jury only heard of the two shots, which was relied upon by the crown to support their case, but this wasn’t the whole picture. It represents yet another significant aspect to this case which supports Jeremy Bamber and undermines this conviction.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/11/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-say-new-evidence-undermines-conviction