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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1710 on: May 10, 2020, 04:42:26 PM »
By chance, I recently stumbled upon a 2 part podcast on the Simon Hall case

It was grossly misleading and contained numerous factual errors

Not dissimilar to Bamber’s CT BS
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1711 on: May 11, 2020, 12:02:54 PM »
I honestly do believe, based on my early conversations with Jeremy, before the rest of the info was given to us, purely as a distraction, that thus was a prefessiinal job done made to look like Jeremy did it.

Aunt Agatha appears to know all the evidence points to Bamber
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1712 on: May 11, 2020, 12:15:00 PM »

I cannot post anything else on this subject on here regarding the case, it's not right.

You stated the mother coached the children. It was a hoax.

Here is her polygraph. She passed!!

https://youtu.be/IpvucxGN3MM

‘It is bunkum’

https://barristerblogger.com/2015/03/24/the-hampstead-so-called-satanic-cult-should-be-a-warning-to-the-credulous/?fdx_switcher=true

The belief in a Satanic abuse conspiracy is the product of unhinged minds, and should be treated as such. It is incredible that in this day and age doctors, social workers and police officers should take seriously what is obviously self-contradicting nonsense without the slightest basis in reality. And yet it is. And until such a time as these delusions are fully exposed for what they are they must be disproved and discredited on every occasion they make their appearance. https://bfms.org.uk/hampstead-satanic-cult-hoax/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1713 on: May 11, 2020, 12:53:25 PM »
What’s David on about here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10256.msg479314.html#msg479314


It seems to me that Newby has deleted posts on his website endorsing the imaginary 999 call from Nevil.

At least he is getting in the right direction
.



Does Mark Newby have a website?

What is David suggesting has been removed?

Is this to do with current legal proceedings ?
« Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 12:55:51 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1714 on: May 11, 2020, 04:25:54 PM »
more from Bamber’s website;

Tuesday 27 August 1985 – In her evidence dated the 8th and 9th of September 1985 Julie claimed that upon her return to Lewisham she went to a pizza restaurant with Sue Battersby, her flat mate and chequebook fraud accomplice, where she told Sue about Jeremy’s involvement in the murders. However, this apparent conversation does not appear in any of Sue’s witness evidence, which raises suspicion that it ever took place at all. Julie had been staying at Jeremy’s cottage in Goldhanger, but because Brett Collins was always, there she moved back to her accommodation in Lewisham on this date. Julie told Essex police that she suspected Jeremy was having a sexual relationship with Brett. [3]


Bamber was having sex with Anji Greaves because she told the nation via her interview with the Sun newspaper

Did Anji Greaves ever suspect Bamber of having sex with Brett Collins ?

JM appears to have a strong case for libel against JB campaign Ltd

And there appears to have been a new appointment of a Thomas Walker on 17th March 2020https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09883616/filing-history

Along with the many other lies and defamatory statements Bamber’s CT website states something about JM & LR and a trip to Malta ?


Julie cancelled the holiday she and Liz had planned after Jeremy said he was taking her to the Bahamas as a twenty-first birthday present. But Jeremy was far from dedicated to their relationship. He had telephoned Sue in Jersey, asking if she still loved him, and persued a Colchester barmaid named Anne, seven years his senior. Anne agreed to a couple of dates, during which Jeremy showed her his family’s farmland and Osea Road, telling her that he was very wealthy and intended to buy a Porsche someday.

Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from the book ‘The murders at White House farm’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=jeremy+bamber+chinese+trick+box&source=bl&ots=jQH-J5AeC1&sig=ACfU3U0BryXpogrDnkw5Ikx_1Yk1kH8qaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ6q_iy6vpAhWTilwKHc-SDNQQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20chinese%20trick%20box&f=false
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1715 on: May 11, 2020, 04:54:04 PM »
JM appears to have a strong case for libel against JB campaign Ltd

And there appears to have been a new appointment of a Thomas Walker on 17th March 2020https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09883616/filing-history

Bamber’s CT website states something about JM & LR and a trip to Malta ?


Julie cancelled the holiday she and Liz had planned after Jeremy said he was taking her to the Bahamas as a twenty-first birthday present. But Jeremy was far from dedicated to their relationship. He had telephoned Sue in Jersey, asking if she still loved him, and persued a Colchester barmaid named Anne, seven years his senior. Anne agreed to a couple of dates, during which Jeremy showed her his family’s farmland and Osea Road, telling her that he was very wealthy and intended to buy a Porsche someday.

Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from the book ‘The murders at White House farm’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=jeremy+bamber+chinese+trick+box&source=bl&ots=jQH-J5AeC1&sig=ACfU3U0BryXpogrDnkw5Ikx_1Yk1kH8qaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ6q_iy6vpAhWTilwKHc-SDNQQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20chinese%20trick%20box&f=false

Was Anji Greaves aware of the above?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1716 on: May 11, 2020, 05:00:46 PM »
JM appears to have a strong case for libel against JB campaign Ltd

And there appears to have been a new appointment of a Thomas Walker on 17th March 2020https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09883616/filing-history

Along with the many other lies and defamatory statements Bamber’s CT website states something about JM & LR and a trip to Malta ?


Julie cancelled the holiday she and Liz had planned after Jeremy said he was taking her to the Bahamas as a twenty-first birthday present. But Jeremy was far from dedicated to their relationship. He had telephoned Sue in Jersey, asking if she still loved him, and persued a Colchester barmaid named Anne, seven years his senior. Anne agreed to a couple of dates, during which Jeremy showed her his family’s farmland and Osea Road, telling her that he was very wealthy and intended to buy a Porsche someday.

Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from the book ‘The murders at White House farm’
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=zV3WCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA121&lpg=PA121&dq=jeremy+bamber+chinese+trick+box&source=bl&ots=jQH-J5AeC1&sig=ACfU3U0BryXpogrDnkw5Ikx_1Yk1kH8qaA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjZ6q_iy6vpAhWTilwKHc-SDNQQ6AEwAHoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=jeremy%20bamber%20chinese%20trick%20box&f=false

The audios on the JB Campaign ltd website also contain slander

Libel and slander both involve a statement being ‘published’, or communicated, to at least one other person, where that statement damages the person’s reputation. The primary difference between the two is the degree of permanence with which the statement is published.If the statement is made with a degree of permanence, this may be libel. Slander, on the other hand, is characterised by its impermanence, or transience.Generally, the distinction will be between oral and written statements, the former generally being slander and the latter libel. Slander, may, however, actually be libel if the oral statement is recorded, for example on tape or CD.
https://www.contactlaw.co.uk/-/867

« Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 05:12:16 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1717 on: May 11, 2020, 07:29:24 PM »
Was Anji Greaves aware of the above?

Would she have still sold her story to the Sun if she’d have known about SF & ‘Anne’ ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1718 on: May 12, 2020, 01:13:34 PM »
Aunt Agatha appears to know all the evidence points to Bamber

She also knows he’s greedy

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5009.msg214121.html#msg214121

Aunt A:
"I was not going to comment further however may I add at this point, Jeremy has NEVER had any problems in asking for money from those who he thinks has it, nor does he have a problem receiving it.
If one reads Daisy's post again she mentions 'lies'.....she would only know he was lying if she had asked  questions.....and she believed or knew he was lying to her.  I am also aware of this.
Secondly, maybe because she again asked questions as to where the money was going...what forensics etc.
When  Daisy also used the word 'generous' in her post....she means a little more than would be expected on a monthly basis going into his allowance.  This allowed him to buy stationary, christmas/birthday cards, make phone calls, send out documents recorded delivery etc.  Daisy never asked where the money went, however, it would have helped cover these costs on a monthly basis.....along with contributions from others of course. 
Have not spoken with her and I would not ask her directly so I cannot confirm the above as they are only my thoughts......but pride and money.........where Jeremy is concerned I would not use them in the same sentence if you know what I mean.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1719 on: May 12, 2020, 03:10:04 PM »
JM appears to have a strong case for libel against JB campaign Ltd
Jeremy Bamber Retweeted
JB Campaign LTD
@jbcampaignltd
Matthew McDonald

Julie Mugford’s ficticious account of the hit man candidly shows how she was prepared to make up stories to #JeremyBamber’s detriment and in the wake of this further implicating another innocent man.

#WhiteHouseFarm
https://jeremybamber.org/matthew-mcdonald/
7:08 PM · Apr 2, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://mobile.twitter.com/jbcampaignltd/status/1245775008460419072

 *&^^&
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Offline The General

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1720 on: May 12, 2020, 05:09:48 PM »
Jeremy Bamber Retweeted
JB Campaign LTD
@jbcampaignltd
Matthew McDonald

Julie Mugford’s ficticious account of the hit man candidly shows how she was prepared to make up stories to #JeremyBamber’s detriment and in the wake of this further implicating another innocent man.

#WhiteHouseFarm
https://jeremybamber.org/matthew-mcdonald/
7:08 PM · Apr 2, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://mobile.twitter.com/jbcampaignltd/status/1245775008460419072

 *&^^&

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09883616
The 2nd Youngest Member of the Forum

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1721 on: May 12, 2020, 06:55:40 PM »
Jeremy Bamber Retweeted
JB Campaign LTD
@jbcampaignltd
Matthew McDonald

Julie Mugford’s ficticious account of the hit man candidly shows how she was prepared to make up stories to #JeremyBamber’s detriment and in the wake of this further implicating another innocent man.

#WhiteHouseFarm
https://jeremybamber.org/matthew-mcdonald/
7:08 PM · Apr 2, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://mobile.twitter.com/jbcampaignltd/status/1245775008460419072

 *&^^&

What Bamber did to JM is referred to as gaslighting

Gaslighting in interpersonal relationships often develops or builds on an existing power dynamic. While it’s most common in romantic settings, gaslighting can happen in any kind of relationship where one person is so important to the other that they don’t want to take the chance of upsetting or losing them, such as a boss, friend, sibling, or parent. Gaslighting happens in relationships where there is an unequal power dynamic and the target has given the gaslighter power and often their respect.
https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/12/19/18140830/gaslighting-relationships-politics-explained
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1722 on: May 13, 2020, 11:36:54 AM »
The audios on the JB Campaign ltd website also contain slander

Libel and slander both involve a statement being ‘published’, or communicated, to at least one other person, where that statement damages the person’s reputation. The primary difference between the two is the degree of permanence with which the statement is published.If the statement is made with a degree of permanence, this may be libel. Slander, on the other hand, is characterised by its impermanence, or transience.Generally, the distinction will be between oral and written statements, the former generally being slander and the latter libel. Slander, may, however, actually be libel if the oral statement is recorded, for example on tape or CD.
https://www.contactlaw.co.uk/-/867

Are JB Campaign Ltd allowed to obtain finance ie fundraising via inaccurate information ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1723 on: May 13, 2020, 11:45:30 AM »
What’s David on about here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10256.msg479314.html#msg479314


It seems to me that Newby has deleted posts on his website endorsing the imaginary 999 call from Nevil.

At least he is getting in the right direction
.



Does Mark Newby have a website?

What is David suggesting has been removed?

Is this to do with current legal proceedings ?

No idea what David was on about above but the CT website still has ‘the imaginary 999 call‘’ from NB here https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/new-call-logs-evidence-oct-2019
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Jeremy Supporters : Help, Hindrance or Harmful?
« Reply #1724 on: May 13, 2020, 12:19:53 PM »
Are JB Campaign Ltd allowed to obtain finance ie fundraising via inaccurate information ?

J B Campaign Ltd

Company No 09883616  Incorporated 23rd November 2015
Directors Patrick and Trudi Benjamin

https://companycheck.co.uk/company/09883616/J-B-CAMPAIGN-LTD/directors-secretaries



I am very pleased to announce the launch of The JB Campaign Limited, which is a ‘Not For Profit’ Private Limited Company. Having thought long and hard about the campaign to keep Jeremy’s case in the public domain and the issues that need resolving to get traction on an Appeal, the only conclusion was that we needed to be able to raise money.  Supporters often ask how they can make donations but in order to do this effectively and legitimately the decision was made by the campaign team to set up The Jeremy Bamber Campaign as a legal entity.

Our aim is to raise funds towards any legal or forensic costs not currently covered Pro Bono.  There will be an opportunity for people to give cash using a donate button on the website, we will be offering opportunities for appropriate advertising, along with a range of merchandise.   Other exciting projects are in the planning process and will be announced in due course.

I am very proud, alongside my husband Pat Benjamin, to be a Director of the organisation and we are delighted to be working with the Campaign Management Team to maintain a high standard of business and accounting practices.   In accordance, with requirements by Companies House, all monies will be accounted for and annual accounts will be filed.    The Directors and Management Team give their time and expertise for free.

The decision to generate revenue in this way was taken partly because of the denigration of legal aid and the funding crisis for prisoners such as Jeremy but also because of the outrage we feel at the continued wrongful conviction and 30-year loss of liberty of an innocent man.    Our hope is that campaigners and supporters, who feel as we do, will give generously to help Jeremy gain the freedom he so richly deserves.

Please look at the “Management Team” to find out more about who we are and the 'Operations' page to find out how we work.

Thank you.

Trudi Benjamin

Managing Director/Spokesperson

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/jb-campaign-ltd-and-directors



This organisation does not operate or support www.jeremybamberforum.co.uk and we nor Jeremy have any association with, or control over it.

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/about

The website in question contains numerous falsehoods, lies and indeed a wealth of libellous statements

On one of the audio recordings for example they’ve made claim JM ‘smuggled drugs from Cananda’ - Who made this up and why are JB Campaign ltd promoting this?

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