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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1935 on: February 08, 2014, 06:01:27 PM »
The article also considers it 'a difficulty' that different forces have been working on different targets.

Given that still no hypothesis has been agreed upon as to what happened to Madeleine, what's the problem with working on different leads? Surely keeping different doors open would be prudent.

Offline jassi

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1936 on: February 08, 2014, 06:04:54 PM »
The article also considers it 'a difficulty' that different forces have been working on different targets.

Given that still no hypothesis has been agreed upon as to what happened to Madeleine, what's the problem with working on different leads? Surely keeping different doors open would be prudent.

I would have thought that ALL doors should be left open, (or at least ajar) until a credible solution is reached.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

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Cariad

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1937 on: February 08, 2014, 06:14:23 PM »
I would have thought that ALL doors should be left open, (or at least ajar) until a credible solution is reached.

That magic moving door again  8)--))

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1938 on: February 08, 2014, 06:24:59 PM »
That magic moving door again  8)--))

Oh no!

Estuarine

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1939 on: February 08, 2014, 06:47:17 PM »
nice and helpful mirror article....

 8-)(--)


 >@@(*&)


So many bods  sticking their oars in, nothng changes

What's the going rate?

One might think some might not want the two police forces to have a good relationship!

You mean the Mirror Group and by extension.......................... >@@(*&)

Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1940 on: February 08, 2014, 10:46:18 PM »

Lyall

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1941 on: February 08, 2014, 10:53:13 PM »
>@@(*&) James Murray again.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1942 on: February 08, 2014, 11:14:45 PM »
British police CAN still solve Madeleine McCann mystery despite the problems of working with foreign forces
Feb 08, 2014 00:00
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The former Met Commissioner has investigated high-profile deaths overseas and is aware of the hurdles Scotland Yard detectives face in Portugal

Still missing: Madeleine McCann

As Kate and Gerry McCann have found over the past seven years, the Portuguese criminal and judicial system is very different to what we are used to at home.

So much so that they found themselves being publicly named as suspects at an early stage of the investigation to find their missing daughter Madeleine.

British police are now trying to play catch-up and provide the thorough examination of the facts and evidence that appears to have been so badly mishandled back in 2007.

It is no wonder that the Portuguese police feel vulnerable about what they have – or haven’t – done in the past.

This makes the building of a strong relationship between the new teams involved so crucial to any successful progress in this case. It has to be a partnership and not a competition to see who makes the next breakthrough.

There are some positive signs that the Portuguese and Scotland Yard investigative teams are working together, but some difficulties remain. This week, for instance, it has been reported that they were investigating different targets.

When our police work overseas they do not have the power of arrest. They can advise and make a request but it has to be carried out for them. Every move needs to be sanctioned and supported by the local force.

This can be a very frustrating and time-consuming process but needs to be followed to the letter if any breakthrough is to be achieved. It also needs to be done properly if any subsequent prosecutions are to stand the best chance of success.

Apart from the cultural and language barriers, you should not underestimate the complexity and sensitivity of our police officers working with their colleagues from overseas. That is why police officers need to be skilled diplomats when on foreign soil.

They know they will only make progress if they work with the local force and respect the way they go about their work – even if it seems to be very slow and ponderous.

As I found with my inquiry into the death of Diana, Princess of Wales, patience is needed by both home and overseas forces to build a partnership that can deliver results which stand the test of whichever country’s judicial system will be governing the investigation.

For example, getting some of the 600 plus evidential exhibits released for analysis back in England was just one of the obstacles we faced.

It took time, but we eventually got the agreement of the French authorities to go ahead and bring the crash car back to England.

This helped us conduct a complete reconstruction of the collision. The results proved hugely important in enabling a proper assessment to take place at the inquest in London.

But there can also be difficulties dealing with different forces closer to home.


During my inquiries into ­collusion and murder in Northern Ireland, my team came face to face with those responsible for the original investigations – some of whom had been accused of committing the crimes themselves.

It was little wonder that our work touched many raw nerves and sensitivities.

Gaining the confidence and trust of the local force, the victims and their families was crucial, while following the evidence wherever it took us.

This was not easy as we faced a concerted campaign to discredit the inquiry. It took more than 15 years and three linked inquiries to get to the bottom of what had been going on.

Determination got us through many difficult moments, including mental and physical pressures and threats.

Many courageous officers from the Royal Ulster Constabulary were keen to help us with our enquiries. However, some were very evasive and defensive.

We met walls of silence. Secret Intelligence records disappeared from files.

The safety and security of the team was forever uppermost in my mind. Especially when our offices burnt down one night. Mysteriously, the smoke alarms and heat sensors failed to go off and the telephone lines were cut.

Senior RUC officers blamed a secret unit in British military intelligence. To this day it has never been proven but I believe I know who was responsible.

As Metropolitan Police Commissioner, I was invited to send a team to Jamaica to investigate a shooting. The starting point here was gaining the support of their government for the professionals who would be doing the legwork.

The support and guidance of the Foreign Office, our High Commissioner and his team in Jamaica was crucial to making progress.

They put us on the right track with the right connections to steer the team through the local systems and structures. All of this takes a lot of time and patience.

With crime increasingly taking on an international dimension it is essential that police officers can get co-operation from the governments and police forces of every country – not just in Europe but across the whole world.

Scotland Yard has a long history of conducting investigations overseas and they know better than anyone how to get on with their foreign partners.

That is why the Home Secretary asked them back in 2011 to look in to the Madeleine McCann case to try and find out what happened to her.

It might appear painfully slow, but rest assured they will be doing all they can to give the family the answers they are looking for.

If anyone can solve this case... they can.



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Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1943 on: February 08, 2014, 11:24:24 PM »


How wierd, so keys to whole block stolen to take a specific targetted child?

Must havebeen trying loads of keys for ages to get in then!

Barf! then again must read the article when it's printed online see what they are on about and who was covering up what
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1944 on: February 08, 2014, 11:29:42 PM »
How wierd, so keys to whole block stolen to take a specific targetted child?

Must havebeen trying loads of keys for ages to get in then!

Barf! then again must read the article when it's printed online see what they are on about and who was covering up what

The point, if this is true is that this was not reported to the police.
So, what else hasn't been reported?

Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1945 on: February 08, 2014, 11:32:53 PM »
The point, if this is true is that this was not reported to the police.
So, what else hasn't been reported?

pls don't get carried away by a muray express article vixte......track record is thoroughly atrocious

unless you want to speculate why the keys to the "whole block" were taken and how they did this!and when
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Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1946 on: February 08, 2014, 11:37:32 PM »
pls don't get carried away by a muray express article vixte......track record is thoroughly atrocious

unless you want to speculate why the keys to the "whole block" were taken and how they did this!

Well, I have personally been suspicious of the MW staff since 2007! So, for me this is just feeding my suspicion further.

Not sure if anyone in here remembers the maroon top :))) The maroon top has caused me too many sleepless nights.. and that time has led to the staff :))
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Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1947 on: February 08, 2014, 11:44:03 PM »
Well, I have personally been suspicious of the MW staff since 2007! So, for me this is just feeding my suspicion further.

Not sure if anyone in here remembers the maroon top :))) The maroon top has caused me too many sleepless nights.. and that time has led to the staff :))

Maroon top !!!!!

Pls elaborate

Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1948 on: February 08, 2014, 11:46:58 PM »
Dr Amaral is de Boogah Man and must be discredited at all costs. You know ,the man who led the investigation for about 1/3 of its duration.

We all know and he deserves to be miserable and feel FEAR


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quote from "Madeleine" by Mrs K Mccann

Redblossom

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Re: Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann
« Reply #1949 on: February 08, 2014, 11:49:17 PM »
Why Amaral has to be mentioned in every thread and every moment? He has his own thread and I suggest all posts related to him to be moved to his thread.

It is becoming boring, he is not involved in this investigation and hasn't found Madeleine during his choice of doing it..

Mentioning Amaral is just derailing the communication on this forum..

To me he is not important at all at this particular moment of the investigation.

I am not interested in discussions about him and whoever is they should go to the thread about him.

This thread is about news and about Madeleine.


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tell that to the people who bring him in at every second in any context just as ammunition to defend the mccanns...its a really weak show
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