The Joana Cipriano case revisited.

[Angelo222]

i think based on the fact there is no real evidence againsrt her apart from the confession supposedly beaten out of her...she may well be innocent

As usual you have got things totally back to front.  Leonor Cipriano confessed to 'accidentally' killing the child prior to being remanded in custody.  She did so in an effort to protect her delinquent brother whom she knew would be locked up for a very long time if his involvement in that most unfortunate event were ever discovered.

[Angelo222]

So was Joana to be sold?  Did Leonor agree to her being killed at the time?  How did she become an accomplice after the event?

I think you should read her letter.

[Eleanor]

As usual you have got things totally back to front.  Leonor Cipriano confessed to 'accidentally' killing the child prior to being remanded in custody.  She did so in an effort to protect her delinquent brother whom she knew would be locked up for a very long time if his involvement in that most unfortunate event were ever discovered.

But surely, Leonor's brother killed Joana accidentally?  If any of this tripe is to be believed.

[Eleanor]

I think you should read her letter.

I did read her letter.  And The Trial Transcript.  Neither of which are even remotely related.

[Mr Gray]

As usual you have got things totally back to front.  Leonor Cipriano confessed to 'accidentally' killing the child prior to being remanded in custody.  She did so in an effort to protect her delinquent brother whom she knew would be locked up for a very long time if his involvement in that most unfortunate event were ever discovered.

It's claimed she confessed I've seen no real evidence she confessed until beaten.... There is also no real evidence to support the claims made by the prosecution. As I explained having  been found guilty and given 20 yrs she cannot get parole unless she admits to the crime... Si she has no choice...

As I said... The prosecution claimed joannas blood was in the fridge... But the blood was never tested... I think there's a really strong chance she is innocent

[Eleanor]

It's claimed she confessed I've seen no real evidence she confessed until beaten.... There is also no real evidence to support the claims made by the prosecution. As I explained having  been found guilty and given 20 yrs she cannot get parole unless she admits to the crime... Si she has no choice...

As I said... The prosecution claimed joannas blood was in the fridge... But the blood was never tested... I think there's a really strong chance she is innocent

How could Joana's blood be in the fridge if she was killed elsewhere.

Another Badly Told Story.

[Mr Gray]

How could Joana's blood be in the fridge if she was killed elsewhere.

Another Badly Told Story.

According to the court she was dismembered and kept in the fridge..... Again... No evidence to support the claim

[Angelo222]

But surely, Leonor's brother killed Joana accidentally?  If any of this tripe is to be believed.

I believe he only admitted to disposing of the remains and that is what he was convicted of.  Leonor for her part alleges he killed her when a trafficking deal went awry.

[Angelo222]

It's claimed she confessed I've seen no real evidence she confessed until beaten.... There is also no real evidence to support the claims made by the prosecution. As I explained having  been found guilty and given 20 yrs she cannot get parole unless she admits to the crime... Si she has no choice...

As I said... The prosecution claimed joannas blood was in the fridge... But the blood was never tested... I think there's a really strong chance she is innocent

Remember the "I hit her head off the kitchen door frame" admission by Leonor Cipriano...then again never mind as you're obviously out to obfuscate the facts.

[Angelo222]

According to the court she was dismembered and kept in the fridge..... Again... No evidence to support the claim

Just the perpetrators videoed confession but hey ho, let's not let a minor detail like that get in the way.

[Nicholas]

Remember the "I hit her head off the kitchen door frame" admission by Leonor Cipriano...then again never mind as you're obviously out to obfuscate the facts.

I know nothing about this case but wonder why the poster is being attacked as opposed to the post?

By a moderator I might add

[Angelo222]

I know nothing about this case but wonder why the poster is being attacked as opposed to the post?

By a moderator I might add

Could the word obfuscate be a clue? 

[Nicholas]

Could the word obfuscate be a clue?

A clue to what, someone's ego?

[Mr Gray]

Could the word obfuscate be a clue?

I'm simply stating facts... Facts it seems you cannot counter
She was beaten badly... No real evidence to support the claims of the prosecution.
Her only way of getting out of prison is to admit to the crime and show remorse... So she has no choice... I'm quite convinced this is a misscarrige of justice

[Mr Gray]

Could the word obfuscate be a clue?

Perhaps as you know so much about the case you could list a couple of pieces of evidence