Sorry I don’t know anything about the Simon Hall case but denial and outright lies are 2 completely different things. I think we may have cross wires, I just don’t believe Sandra would lie to people with regards to her answers to queries about Lukes case that are put to her or related to this case. I think she provides the information that she has as fact and is clear when it’s her opinion
Also to be clear I do not for a second think Sandra would cover anything up, I just wondered if you did. I think if they found any info that proved Luke’s guilt she would take it on the chin that she was wrong but was only standing up for something she believed, which is all any of us can do.
Anyway yet again we have somehow digressed from the Luke discussion back to Sandra. Let’s not.
I find Gordo’s comment in response to Parky’s here interesting
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg452188.html#msg452188 Parky stated
“Thank you for your help and reply Dr lean.
The post was put out with areas of misinformation intentionally . A feeder comment for the study of response. I haven't hidden what I am doing. For the most part, my work is general. Any material/quotes will be credited with source.
All of which should be complete, hopefully by the beginning of August. If I feel anything needs clarification I will seek this and give the oppertunity of response for all subjects.
gordo30 aka Gordon Graham
“It’s just games!! Why the need to as I’m sure your aware of Sandra’s work and you wouldn’t be here asking questions if you felt she had no intention of answering them to the best of her ability.Games to who?
And why choose to use the word
gamesWhat about paradoxes?
Sandra Lean featured killer Simon Hall case in her first book “No Smoke” alongside killer Luke Mitchell’s case and 5 other killers. It turned out after over a decade he was guilty after all.
Rather than publicly accept Simon Halls guilt she chose to mislead others by attempting to create uncertainty and doubt.
From my point of view, by doing so, she created her own paradox. I believe this was intentional.
“Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli was an Italian diplomat, politician, historian, philosopher, humanist, writer, playwright and poet of the Renaissance period. He has often been called the father of modern political philosophy and political science. Wikipedia
Worth reading up on Mr Machiavelli imo.
”Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are.Another of his famous quotes being:
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Occasionally words must serve to veil the facts. But let this happen in such a way that no one become aware of it; or, if it should be noticed, excuses must be at hand to be produced immediately.” For me, the latter quote in particular struck a chord with how Sandra Lean chose to publicly respond when I stated her book “No Smoke” should be revised or withdrawn here:
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8086.0.html