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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: Admin on June 03, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
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Whatever happened to the crack team of ex-FBI agents hired by the McCanns?
13 August 2008
Kate and Gerry McCann have hired a team of crack U.S detectives to lead the hunt for their missing daughter Madeleine, it has emerged.
The unnamed US firm is said to have been offered a £500,000 six-month contract by the Find Madeleine Fun to help spearhead the search.
A friend of the McCanns said: 'The hunt for Madeleine is becoming more and more international and it was felt that a truly international firm was now needed to lead the inquiry.
"These really are the big boys. They are absolutely the best, but they are extremely secretive and cloak-and-dagger about what they do.
'Since their appointment, Metodo has very much taken a back seat and they are now concentrating primarily in Portugal and Spain and across the Straits of Gibraltar into north Africa, where they have their main contacts.
'The American agency is pretty much handling everything else.'
The secretive firm is said to employ ex-FBI, CIA and U.S special forces, according to the Daily Mirror.
The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell, said: 'Kate and Gerry made it clear from the outset they would leave no stone unturned in finding Madeleine and that means employing the very best people in any given field.
'It is correct that an international firm of investigators have been appointed.
'But I am unable to say anything at all about them because of the covert nature of their work and the need for secrecy, not only in looking for Madeleine, but also in relation to previous operations.'
The McCanns now have detectives working around the world at a reported cost of £166,000 a month.
Among the possible sightings they are following up, apparently ignored by Portuguese police, is one by a British yachtsman on the Caribbean island of Margarita last May.
The appointment of the U.S firm comes after it was revealed that a suspected sighting of Madeleine in Brussels was ruled out by police.
A blonde girl had been seen with a woman in a hijab at the KBC bank in the Belgium capital and the McCanns had been treating the sighting as a priority.
However their hopes were dashed when a man came forward and confirmed that the girl was his daughter out with her nanny.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1044260/McCanns-hire-crack-team-ex-FBI-agents-Madeleine.html
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The 6 month contract came to and end. And seeing we never heard of them again, it would appear the contract was not renewed for a further term.
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The 6 month contract came to and end. And seeing we never heard of them again, it would appear the contract was not renewed for a further term.
But who were they ? Does Kate mention them in her book ?
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Madeleine fund in chaos as private eyes are axed after draining £500,000, 23 August 2008
By DANIEL BOFFEY and MILES GOSLETT
Last updated at 10:14 PM on 23rd August 2008
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A team of private investigators working behind the scenes to find Madeleine McCann has been axed after being paid £500,000 from publicly donated funds.
The Find Madeleine Fund quietly engaged the services of a US-based company which was awarded the lucrative six-month contract earlier this year.
The company, Oakley International, which boasts former British security service and FBI contacts, was hired to monitor the Madeleine Hotline, carry out detective work and review CCTV footage of possible sightings of the missing girl around the world.
A source revealed that the company had also spent resources in an attempt to infiltrate a paedophile ring in Belgium.
However, the company's contract will now not be renewed. The Mail on Sunday has learned that double-glazing tycoon Brian Kennedy, who has been underwriting the fund's search for Madeleine, has conducted a review of the agency's work and has become unhappy with the progress it was making.
The deal was abruptly ended following a meeting last week after the fund brought in independent monitors to assess how the money was spent.
The cost of employing the agency - run by a Briton, Kevin Halligen - has drained the Madeleine fund and there is now less than £500,000 left.
The development is likely to dismay the thousands who gave to the appeal, and raise questions about how the fund has been administered.
Mr Kennedy, who owns Sale Sharks rugby club, was said to be 'angry' because he believed Oakley's bills, estimated to be more than £80,000 a month, were too much for the results they achieved.
A source said: 'There is a sense that they were meaning well but hadn't got as far as they should for the money involved.
'Brian Kennedy thought their work was far too pricey and wanted to know where the money was being spent. He wasn't satisfied with their answers and the contract was not renewed.
'Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, have been kept informed all along and agree with the decision. A lot of people were asking questions about where the money was being spent.'
Oakley International won the contract after an introduction by another company, Red Defence International (RDI), based in Jermyn Street, Central London.
Listed as being involved with both companies was Mr Halligen, 47, a communications expert. He is given as the 'contact name' for Oakley International Group, a company registered in Washington DC as the manufacturer of search and navigation equipment.
The company says it has annual sales of £33,000 and only one employee, who appears to be Mr Halligen.
The address given for the company is 2550 M Street NW Washington, which is the downtown office of Patton Boggs, one of the largest and most powerful law companies in America.
A source at the law firm said last night that the lawyer who represented Mr Halligen was unavailable for comment.
RDI, formed in 2005, bills itself as 'an experienced provider of crisis prevention, management and expertise'. It claims to have a presence in Washington DC and Virginia and representation in the Middle East, Africa and Central America.
However, its latest set of accounts is two months overdue and it faces being fined by HM Revenue & Customs.
Among the main players working on the McCann contract were Mr Halligen and Henri Exton, 57, who headed the Greater Manchester Police undercover unit until 1993. He then worked for the Government before moving into the private sector.
One day after a crisis meeting last week with the Madeleine fund administrators, Mr Halligen resigned as a director of RDI.
Mr Exton, of Bury, Lancashire, has the Queen’s Police Medal and an OBE. During the Seventies and Eighties his work included uncovering organised crime rings and recruiting supergrasses.
He also infiltrated football gangs, at one stage becoming a leader of the Young Guvnors, who followed Manchester City, and was forced to take part in organised incidents to preserve his cover.
Previously, the McCann fund had employed a Spanish detective agency called Metodo 3. However, the fund lost confidence in them, especially after they announced they would find Madeleine by last Christmas.
She had disappeared from the resort of Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3, 2007, nine days short of her fourth birthday.
A spokesman for the McCanns said yesterday: 'Kate and Gerry, the fund and their backers have always sought to employ the very best people and resources in the ongoing search for Madeleine.
'Kate and Gerry, via the fund and the backers, continue to employ many such resources and it is true that Red Defence and Oakley were part of those resources.
'I simply will not comment on any personnel, financial or operational details whatsoever.'
No one could be reached for comment at Oakley International or Red Defence International.
Mr Kennedy, estimated to be worth about £250million, became involved after being moved by the plight of the McCanns during the period they were made formal suspects – arguidos – in Madeleine's disappearance. Portuguese prosecutors dropped the couple's arguido status last month.
The 47-year-old made his money in double-glazing and home improvement ventures with companies including Everest windows. His Latium Group business empire has an annual turnover of about £400million.
- Telegraph & Daily Mail (no longer available on line) August 2008
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Admin
I think you will find that the thread topic has been asked and answered.
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The 6 month contract came to and end. And seeing we never heard of them again, it would appear the contract was not renewed for a further term.
But who were they ? Does Kate mention them in her book ?
haven't you read the book?
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The 6 month contract came to and end. And seeing we never heard of them again, it would appear the contract was not renewed for a further term.
But who were they ? Does Kate mention them in her book ?
haven't you read the book?
If you have read the book, then why did you ask the question?
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The 6 month contract came to and end. And seeing we never heard of them again, it would appear the contract was not renewed for a further term.
But who were they ? Does Kate mention them in her book ?
haven't you read the book?
If you have read the book, then why did you ask the question?
and if she hasn't read the book - why not and why refer to it?
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The 6 month contract came to and end. And seeing we never heard of them again, it would appear the contract was not renewed for a further term.
But who were they ? Does Kate mention them in her book ?
haven't you read the book?
If you have read the book, then why did you ask the question?
And if you wait for an answer to a question before posing another you tend to look less silly. @)(++(*
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Metodo3 did not say that they would find Madeleine by Christmas. They actually said that they "Hoped" to find her by that time.
Meanwhile, The McCanns had very little choice as an independent investigation was forbidden in Portugal, so they went to a Spanish Company as being the nearest.
Halligen was a crook. as we all now know, but he didn't appear to be at the time.
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Oakley International.
This firm was run by Kevin Halligen and came highly recommended to the McCanns. In her book however, Kate McCann describes the association as a "bad experience". Kevin Halligen was later arrested on suspicion of fraud and is currently on remand at Belmarsh prison where he is fighting extradition to the US where he is wanted on charges for money-laundering and wire-fraud.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article1877536.ece
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I think most people interested in the Mccann case are well aware of that admin.
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Just for clarity - Metodo 3 and the "crack team of ex-FBI agents hired by the McCanns" are not the one and the same.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/kevin-halligen-madeleine-mccann-parents-1895650
Kevin Halligen: Madeleine McCann parents may sue fraudster accused of £300,000 fund con
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Halligen was a con man of the lowest order. He conned lots of people including major corporations and possibly even governments. That he should have chosen to con the parents of a missing child is despicable.
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
Can you please evidence your claim that he had the "final say"?
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
He was and still is spending his own money. This is why no money from The Fund has been paid to Carter Ruck.
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
Off topic.
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
Can you please evidence your claim that he had the "final say"?
Well alright then, I'll amend my original question and ask why Brian Kennedy had any say at all in how publicly donated money was spent
He's never been on the Fund's board has he ?
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
That he is PAYING for it, so maybe that's why he had a word or two to say about how HIS money was spent.
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
Can you please evidence your claim that he had the "final say"?
Well alright then, I'll amend my original question and ask why Brian Kennedy had any say at all in how publicly donated money was spent
He's never been on the Fund's board has he ?
off topic reported
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
That he is PAYING for it, so maybe that's why he had a word or two to say about how HIS money was spent.
That's not what 'underwriting' means
The money paid to the fraudster Halligen came directly from the fund, not from Kennedy
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
That he is PAYING for it, so maybe that's why he had a word or two to say about how HIS money was spent.
That's not what 'underwriting' means
The money paid to the fraudster Halligen came directly from the fund, not from Kennedy
so how do you know he had the final say?
and I think you should rephrase something to avoid misunderstanding.
"money donated by the public"
not
"publicly donated money"
you are well aware of the difference.
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Can someone explain why Brian Kennedy, double glazing tycoon, had the final say in how publicly donated money was spent ?
What, exactly, does 'underwriting the Fund's search for Madeleine' mean ?
That he is PAYING for it, so maybe that's why he had a word or two to say about how HIS money was spent.
That's not what 'underwriting' means
The money paid to the fraudster Halligen came directly from the fund, not from Kennedy
Do you have proof for this statement?
OR, did The Fund pay to set up The Phone In Line? That would make sense, and would be in the spirit of The Fund.
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Well, when I "underwrite" something it generally means that I'm the guarantor & the one responsible for paying out. Brian Kennedy is one of the McCann's backers so I've always understood that it was money donated from him that went on paying the PIs he chose.
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Well, when I "underwrite" something it generally means that I'm the guarantor & the one responsible for paying out. Brian Kennedy is one of the McCann's backers so I've always understood that it was money donated from him that went on paying the PIs he chose.
Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
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Brian Kennedy is one of the major financial backers OF the fund.
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Well, when I "underwrite" something it generally means that I'm the guarantor & the one responsible for paying out. Brian Kennedy is one of the McCann's backers so I've always understood that it was money donated from him that went on paying the PIs he chose.
Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
it is you that brought Kennedy to this thread so what on earth re you talking about?
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Well, when I "underwrite" something it generally means that I'm the guarantor & the one responsible for paying out. Brian Kennedy is one of the McCann's backers so I've always understood that it was money donated from him that went on paying the PIs he chose.
Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
it is you that brought Kennedy to this thread so what on earth re you talking about?
Why shouldnt BK be brought into this thread, he is inextricably linked, HE had a say, HE was reportedly unhappy with them, though HE wasnt paying for them by all accounts,link for you to trawl through , NOT off topic by any means
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id275.html
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are happy to do so though
I am glad you agree - it was a direct quote from:
icabodcrane
Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are happy to do so though
I am glad you agree - it was a direct quote from:
icabodcrane
Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
Poor Redblossom. Hoisted on her own petard!
Criticising her own anti McCann colleagues for using such a quote. How very dare she?
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
Could you please point out where exactly in the book Kate makes it clear that Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with the money donated by the public as you claim she does?
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
I know Icab, I was responding to Amaralboy's post, (not yours) where he justed quoted yours about the book and without putting your name to the post, and wrote nothing else, one could be forgiven for thinking he was writing those words himself, quite a confusong way to post IMO if not deceptive
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are happy to do so though
I am glad you agree - it was a direct quote from:
icabodcrane
Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
I think you need to take a step, or preferably several steps back to see I was not agreeing with you in any way shape or form, but do fill your rottweiller boots at your leisure
there there - calm down - I can see perfectly well that you didn't agree with me - cos it was not a quote form me - no need to explain blossom
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
I know Icab, I was responding to Amaralboy's post, (not yours) where he justed quoted yours about the book and without putting your name to the post, and wrote nothing else, one could be forgiven for thinking he was writing those words himself, quite a confusong way to post IMO if not deceptive
But your point was that it is futile to quote Kate McCann's book, yet hypocritcally you are condoning such quotation by Icabodcrane. Not too clever that is it?
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
I know Icab, I was responding to Amaralboy's post, (not yours) where he justed quoted yours about the book and without putting your name to the post, and wrote nothing else, one could be forgiven for thinking he was writing those words himself, quite a confusong way to post IMO if not deceptive
oh dear - look back - it was posted as a quote
don't worry - I am sure you were just confused and attacked what you thought I wrote - whereas you were ......oh God I can hardly keep a straight face as I type this.........responding to icabs post.
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there there - calm down - I can see perfectly well that you didn't agree with me - cos it was not a quote form me - no need to explain blossom
Yes, I was disagreeing with you and agreeing with Icab,even though you would like to make it seem it was the other way round! You are very plainly confuddled, the laugh is on you
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there there - calm down - I can see perfectly well that you didn't agree with me - cos it was not a quote form me - no need to explain blossom
Yes, I was disagreeing with you and agreeing with Icab,even though you would like to make it seem it was the other way round! You are very plainly confuddled, the laugh is on you
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how could you disagree with me when in your previous post you said I didn't say anything?
I notice you made some edits
oh red you do make me laugh sometimes
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red you made a mistake - just move on from it - not the end of the World.
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there there - calm down - I can see perfectly well that you didn't agree with me - cos it was not a quote form me - no need to explain blossom
Yes, I was disagreeing with you and agreeing with Icab,even though you would like to make it seem it was the other way round! You are very plainly confuddled, the laugh is on you
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how could you disagree with me when in your previous post you said I didn't say anything?
I notice you made some edits
oh red you do make me laugh sometimes
Not my fault if you arent sharp, quick thinking or intuitive
Thank God
and Insha'Allah
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The frantic back-pedalling from Redblossom when she had remonstratd with amaraltheofficeboy for relying on Kate McCann's book for backup when she found out that it was her colleague Icabodcrane who had in fact used the quote to back up his argument is absolutely hilarious.
Got to be the laugh of the night.
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red you made a mistake - just move on from it - not the end of the World.
In your mind
perhaps you should move on and retract your suggestion that Kennedy has nothing to do with this thread when he has everything to do with it, you cant dictate what is on or off topic when it so obviously is just the one
no - I am quite happy for icabodcrane to discuss Kennedy till the cows come home.
notice that red - it's called thinking on your feet and adjusting to the circumstances. Whilst Inca gets on with that she is really leaving the Mccanns alone -= winners all round eh?
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red you made a mistake - just move on from it - not the end of the World.
In your mind
perhaps you should move on and retract your suggestion that Kennedy has nothing to do with this thread when he has everything to do with it, you cant dictate what is on or off topic when it so obviously is just the one
no - I am quite happy for icabodcrane to discuss Kennedy till the cows come home.
notice that red - it's called thinking on your feet and adjusting to the circumstances. Whilst Inca gets on with that she is really leaving the Mccanns alone -= winners all round eh?
Just a shame that Icabodcrane hasn't yet told us which page of the book the statement about Kennedy being in charge of deciding where the fund money was spent happens to be.
Till he does, Kennedy's involvement is a very moot point indeed.
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red you made a mistake - just move on from it - not the end of the World.
In your mind
perhaps you should move on and retract your suggestion that Kennedy has nothing to do with this thread when he has everything to do with it, you cant dictate what is on or off topic when it so obviously is just the one
no - I am quite happy for icabodcrane to discuss Kennedy till the cows come home.
notice that red - it's called thinking on your feet and adjusting to the circumstances. Whilst Inca gets on with that she is really leaving the Mccanns alone -= winners all round eh?
even YOU cant shut people up, the nazis were defeated years ago
bit strong red - I have not reported it cos I am still lol at you.
chill calm down and keep posting.
it is all over the internet by now but hey - such is life red eh!
(eta - nowhere in my post did I tell anyone to shut up - did you notice that red?)
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Just a shame that Icabodcrane hasn't yet told us which page of the book the statement about Kennedy being in charge of deciding where the fund money was spent happens to be.
Till he does, Kennedy's involvement is a very moot point indeed.
no it is not MOOT at all, he never said it was in kates book about his involvement, his involvement is a fact reported very widely on in the press, the question was why KM never mentioned him, Im sure you know the answer like you seem to believe you know the answer to all the secrets of the damn universe
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The problem is that he did say it.
The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
Your abysmal attempts firstly to back pedal over the cock up you made about the quotation and now your abysmal attempt to get Icabodcrane off the hook by lying about what he posted are making you look very foolish.
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well that's 2 intelligent yawns
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Redblossom is contributing nothing to debate. She is simply being disruptive.
Why am I not surprised?
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red you made a mistake - just move on from it - not the end of the World.
In your mind
perhaps you should move on and retract your suggestion that Kennedy has nothing to do with this thread when he has everything to do with it, you cant dictate what is on or off topic when it so obviously is just the one
no - I am quite happy for icabodcrane to discuss Kennedy till the cows come home.
notice that red - it's called thinking on your feet and adjusting to the circumstances. Whilst Inca gets on with that she is really leaving the Mccanns alone -= winners all round eh?
even YOU cant shut people up, the nazis were defeated years ago
bit strong red - I have not reported it cos I am still lol at you.
chill calm down and keep posting.
it is all over the internet by now but hey - such is life red eh!
(eta - nowhere in my post did I tell anyone to shut up - did you notice that red?)
Yawn.....hypocrite
ok now reported for comparing me to a nazi
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well that's 2 intelligent yawns
Seems its thread wrecking time, again!
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your behaviour is comparable to them amaralboy, though LESS than other rottweioers on here, bully for you though on reporting
off topic and personal attack
you made a mistake in your post earlier red (evidence can be provided) - move on and forget it.
any more personal comments will be reported - not as a threat - just to get you to move on.
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your behaviour is comparable to them amaralboy, though LESS than other rottweioers on here, bully for you though on reporting
off topic and personal attack
you made a mistake in your post earlier red (evidence can be provided) - move on and forget it.
any more personal comments will be reported - not as a threat - just to get you to move on.
In your mind only, but i will move on because Im bored not because I was wrong
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your behaviour is comparable to them amaralboy, though LESS than other rottweioers on here, bully for you though on reporting
off topic and personal attack
you made a mistake in your post earlier red (evidence can be provided) - move on and forget it.
any more personal comments will be reported - not as a threat - just to get you to move on.
In your mind only, but i will move on because Im bored not because I was wrong
why on earth do you keep replying?
you were wrong
everyone saw you were wrong
you keep drawing attention to your error
I have noticed it is spreading wider and wider
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your behaviour is comparable to them amaralboy, though LESS than other rottweioers on here, bully for you though on reporting
off topic and personal attack
you made a mistake in your post earlier red (evidence can be provided) - move on and forget it.
any more personal comments will be reported - not as a threat - just to get you to move on.
In your mind only, but i will move on because Im bored not because I was wrong
why on earth do you keep replying?
you were wrong
everyone saw you were wrong
you keep drawing attention to your error
I have noticed it is spreading wider and wider
Well it would. Redblossom frantically flailing about and back-pedalling for all she is worth because she was lambasting you before she realised it was Icabodcrane who had such belief in Kate's book as a font of truth and then had to hypocritically praise him is the funniest thing for ages.
It shows she didn't read properly and then demonstrates her rank hypocrisy.
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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Well in her book ( page 284 ) Kate makes it clear that the money to pay Halligen and his subcontractors had been provided by Madeleine's fund ( she makes no mention of Brian Kennedy at all when recalling dealings with Halligen and Oakley international )
That means zilch basically,UNLESS you are asserting that every single reference to BK and Oakley in the press is 100% fabrication, I really dont think KMs book should be taken as the font of all truth, you are free to do so though if it makes you happy and righteous
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The point I was making was in response to the suggestion that Brian Kennedy paid for Halligen's services from his own pocket ( which gave him the right to 'call the shots' )
In her book Kate makes it clear that it was 'the Fund' that paid Halligen, and therefore Brian Kennedy was making decisions about what should be done with money donated by the public
I know Icab, I was responding to Amaralboy's post, (not yours) where he justed quoted yours about the book and without putting your name to the post, and wrote nothing else, one could be forgiven for thinking he was writing those words himself, quite a confusong way to post IMO if not deceptive
I'm confused.
Were you reacting to the poster as opposed to the content by any chance?
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Poor gilet, I knew exactly who had posted what and why and who I was replying to, give it up, your hernia must be getting bigger by the hour, thats about 12 hours now? Today?
The thing is from your posts it is very clear you had no idea.
First lambasting amaraltheofficeboy for his use of the book as a reference and then rapidly back tracking when you found out it was in fact Icabodcrane.
I am still laughing at your antics.
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No need to be confused carana, its all there in black and white for those bright enought to decipher it, do read back, its blatantly obvious