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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3675 on: October 03, 2018, 07:56:08 PM »
Perhaps he's letting everyone know he's still available as Operation Grange seems to be tip-toeing away.
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Right now it would be folly for the H.O or The Met to announce extra funding for the investigation into an eleven year old missing child case, in foreign parts that has already cost ca £12MM, against the backdrop of the inquest into those who died in the Westminster terror attack. Considering some of the blistering attacks by the coroner. Best maintain a hull down position.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3676 on: October 03, 2018, 08:02:28 PM »
Amazing thoughts on his part today.

Speaking out today, Mr Edgar believes the case is 'solvable' and maintains there are 'people out there who know what happened'.

No shxt Sherlock!

At one point he thought the Algarve had a "lawless hinterland" wherein dwelled all sorts of undesirables.
Similar to Copperhead Road or Kirby Hill I expect.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3677 on: October 03, 2018, 08:42:25 PM »
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Right now it would be folly for the H.O or The Met to announce extra funding for the investigation into an eleven year old missing child case, in foreign parts that has already cost ca £12MM, against the backdrop of the inquest into those who died in the Westminster terror attack. Considering some of the blistering attacks by the coroner. Best maintain a hull down position.

I think they are hoping it will all die a death quietly.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3678 on: October 03, 2018, 09:31:11 PM »
I think they are hoping it will all die a death quietly.

It may well do so. I can't imagine the PJ working on it, and the McCanns nay be prepared to let it go now, especially if the ECHR isn't interested in their complaint.
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Offline Montclair

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3679 on: October 03, 2018, 09:31:23 PM »
I think they are hoping it will all die a death quietly.

Don't worry when they have something to say they will let everyone know.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3680 on: October 03, 2018, 09:35:33 PM »
Don't worry when they have something to say they will let everyone know.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3681 on: October 03, 2018, 10:33:06 PM »
They have a huge website which I commend to you.
You may then be able to make a sensible comment on the role of the CPS.
Thank you.  From their website

The CPS:

decides which cases should be prosecuted;
determines the appropriate charges in more serious or complex cases, and advises the police during the early stages of investigations;
prepares cases and presents them at court; and
provides information, assistance and support to victims and prosecution witnesses.


So, if there is no suspect, and no case for prosecution what is their role then going forward ?  Genuine question asked by a genuine idiot. 
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3682 on: October 03, 2018, 10:50:30 PM »
'Maddie's still in Portugal': Detective who worked on Madeleine McCann case believes she could be alive with no idea of world-wide hunt to find her - as police ask for more cash for search

Former detective Dave Edgar believes missing Madeleine McCann is still alive
Speaking last year Mr Edgar claimed the disappearance was 'intricately planned'
Mr Edgar said it was 'unlikely' that Madeleine was smuggled out of the country

A former detective has revealed he remains 'hopeful' that Madeleine McCann will be found alive in Portugal.

Former Detective Inspector Dave Edgar was hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to look into their daughter's disappearance and worked on the case for three years before it was taken over by the Met Police in 2011.

Speaking out today, Mr Edgar believes the case is 'solvable' and maintains there are 'people out there who know what happened'.

Last year Mr Edgar claimed the kidnapper was being protected and said the disappearance was 'intricately planned by a gang of paedophiles'.

He once said he believed Madeleine was being held in an underground cell or dungeon, like the victims of Josef Fritzl.

Mr Edgar told The Sun today there is still the chance of a breakthrough, adding: '[Madeleine] could literally be anywhere in the world but my hunch is that she is in Portugal.

The chance that she may have been smuggled out of the country without being detected is highly unlikely. There is someone in Portugal with an open knowledge of where she is and what happened.'

Last week, the Home Office confirmed it was considering an application from Scotland Yard for more funding to continue the hunt for the youngster.

In a blog published on September 26, it said: 'We have received and are considering a request from the Metropolitan Police Service to extend funding for Operation Grange until the end of March 2019.

'The Home Office maintains an ongoing dialogue with the MPS regarding funding for Operation Grange.'

Scotland Yard launched Operation Grange in 2013 after a Portuguese inquiry failed to make any headway.

UK detectives were granted an extra £150,000 in March to continue the probe, to cover until the end of September.

Operation Grange has cost £11.6 million so far.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6234789/Detective-worked-Madeleine-McCann-case-believes-alive.html
And the most popular comment with over a thousand likes under this article?

“Do not give any more money PLEASE we all know she is still in Portugal ! buried somewhere”

How utterly vile some people are, to beg and plead for that child to be left to rot in the ground unfound and the mystery of her death never solved, that is if she is indeed dead which no one can say for certain apart from the person or people responsible for her disappearance.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3683 on: October 03, 2018, 11:16:51 PM »
Thank you.  From their website

The CPS:

decides which cases should be prosecuted;
determines the appropriate charges in more serious or complex cases, and advises the police during the early stages of investigations;
prepares cases and presents them at court; and
provides information, assistance and support to victims and prosecution witnesses.


So, if there is no suspecnd it.t, and no case for prosecution what is their role then going forward ?  Genuine question asked by a genuine idiot.

You really need to look at the CPS role and powers for international cases where Letters of Request are required.
I am sure if you dabble about in CPS/ACPO/College of Policing stuff you will find it.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3684 on: October 03, 2018, 11:32:37 PM »
You really need to look at the CPS role and powers for international cases where Letters of Request are required.
I am sure if you dabble about in CPS/ACPO/College of Policing stuff you will find it.
I was asking specifically about their role at the conclusion of an investigation where no suspect has been identified and the case sheved or wound up.
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Offline Sunny

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3685 on: October 04, 2018, 06:28:47 AM »
I was asking specifically about their role at the conclusion of an investigation where no suspect has been identified and the case sheved or wound up.

Then the CPS would do nothing surely if there was no one to prosecute. IMO.   Surely the Crown Prosecution Service is for enabling prosecution of someone not for closing a case.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3686 on: October 04, 2018, 07:12:42 AM »
Then the CPS would do nothing surely if there was no one to prosecute. IMO.   Surely the Crown Prosecution Service is for enabling prosecution of someone not for closing a case.
Well those were my thoughts too but I was firmly put in my place by Alice for suggesting it.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3687 on: October 04, 2018, 10:46:07 AM »
Is SY now funding the case through their budget ? Does this point to the ‘last lead’ being a British one ?
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Offline Snowgirl

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3688 on: October 04, 2018, 10:52:24 AM »
And the most popular comment with over a thousand likes under this article?

“Do not give any more money PLEASE we all know she is still in Portugal ! buried somewhere”

How utterly vile some people are, to beg and plead for that child to be left to rot in the ground unfound and the mystery of her death never solved, that is if she is indeed dead which no one can say for certain apart from the person or people responsible for her disappearance.
Not neccesarily  a vile remark .Could it have meant  it’s up to the PJ to search , not OG ?

Offline carlymichelle

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3689 on: October 04, 2018, 10:52:41 AM »
slightly off topic but it is 4  years ago today since brenda   was   hounded   and  killed  herself    RIP  brenda leyland   xx