General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Eleanor]

I am not sure where you were raised, so I cannot comment on your personal experiences, nor would I if I could.

I know that in my day, there was an 11+.  That the brightest kids were challenged academically.  And that those not so bright went to schools where the curriculum was tailored appropriately to them.

It was a high quality school system, possibly even the finest in the world.

Then comprehensives tried desperately to fit square pegs into round holes.  I am not convinced the system has ever recovered.

London and Middlesex.  I was moved from a London Comprehensive where I could have taken GSEs, to a Middlesex Secondary Modern where I didn't even get the opportunity.
French?  No chance.  Although I was learning French at the Comprehensive.

[slartibartfast]

Can we stop all the petty sniping.

[ShiningInLuz]

London and Middlesex.  I was moved from a London Comprehensive where I could have taken GSEs, to a Middlesex Secondary Modern where I didn't even get the opportunity.
French?  No chance.  Although I was learning French at the Comprehensive.

May I ask what a GSE is? 

I presume it is not a GCSE, but how does it compare?

[slartibartfast]

May I ask what a GSE is? 

I presume it is not a GCSE, but how does it compare?

GSEs were ‘O’ Levels, the Lower Qualification was the CSE. They were both combined in the GCSE to have a wider spanning qualification.

[ShiningInLuz]

GSEs were ‘O’ Levels, the Lower Qualification was the CSE. They were both combined in the GCSE to have a wider spanning qualification.

Thank you.   

[Eleanor]

May I ask what a GSE is? 

I presume it is not a GCSE, but how does it compare?

It's what they used to be called.  Probably fractionally more difficult.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I don;'t even know if i can follow the point of this conversation. Are we measuring intellegence with one another or generally?

The thing about educaitons is it has been set up to a one size fits all- which we know it doesn't.

Every individual has a different learning curve and even then they have various degrees of levels of attainment.

As an example  my friend went to Private school and was never diagniosed as having dyslexia- failed all academic exams, however, she is a very successful business woman- multi millionaire.

My nephew has Autism he is an absolute genius with numbers, cannot communcate at an intellectual level. he is also more  IT savvy than his teacher- he is 9.

Some people can read an instruction manual and withou tchecking it again can build something
Some people can build something by watching some one else and copying them.
It depends on your learning curve.  Exams do not measure how employable someone  is.

Being a snob about money or education is a sad pastime for many.

[Mr Gray]

Can you provide a cite for that?

for what

[slartibartfast]

for what

Your claim.

[Mr Gray]

Your claim.

which claim...you need to be precise so I can give  a precise answer

[Mr Gray]

May I ask what a GSE is? 

I presume it is not a GCSE, but how does it compare?

Eleanor obvuiosly meant GCE

[slartibartfast]

which claim

You are being obtuse, I ask you for a cite backing up that statement and you then seem to lose all powers of reasoning.

“We are still producing just as many if not more professionals”

[Mr Gray]

You are being obtuse, I ask you for a cite backing up that statement and you then seem to lose all powers of reasoning.

“We are still producing just as many if not more professionals”

I made three claims in that post...is it unreasonable to ask which one you are referring to

[ShiningInLuz]

Eleanor obvuiosly meant GCE

No, she didn't.  That was why I asked, and got the relevant replies.

Have a nice day, as they say in America!

[Mr Gray]

You are being obtuse, I ask you for a cite backing up that statement and you then seem to lose all powers of reasoning.

“We are still producing just as many if not more professionals”

without digging too deep ....certainly im my profession at least one new university has opened and their are more palces for medics now....we ahve more universities so are producing more professionals...can you not see taht simple fact