General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Eleanor]

They could be just as bad as smoking.

I'm doing both.  I need a fag after that thought.

[The General]

Do you deny the possible existence of an abductor?  I had you down as a “possibly maybe”.

I was taking issue with the tenuous claim that, by refusing to believe the possibility of an abductor, someone would somehow be 'aiding and abetting'.
A pedant could flip that statement on it's head.....'by refusing to believe Gerry and/or Kate are perverting the course of justice, etc, etc......'.
All theories are on the table.

[Lace]

The abduction of MBM is a fairytale IMO
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Yes,  the abductor likes you very much IMO

[Venturi Swirl]

I was taking issue with the tenuous claim that, by refusing to believe the possibility of an abductor, someone would somehow be 'aiding and abetting'.
A pedant could flip that statement on it's head.....'by refusing to believe Gerry and/or Kate are perverting the course of justice, etc, etc......'.
All theories are on the table.

Really?  All of them?  Ever read a sensible theory of parental involvement?  I very much doubt it, but if you have feel free to pm it to me, I’ve been asking to read one for the last 12 years to no avail so far.

[Wonderfulspam]

Really?  All of them?  Ever read a sensible theory of parental involvement?  I very much doubt it, but if you have feel free to pm it to me, I’ve been asking to read one for the last 12 years to no avail so far.

You've heard the Maddie in the bin theory plenty of times, you just won't accept it, despite it's simplicity.

[The General]

Really?  All of them?  Ever read a sensible theory of parental involvement?  I very much doubt it, but if you have feel free to pm it to me, I’ve been asking to read one for the last 12 years to no avail so far.

I know Davel isn't here to castigate me at the moment, but I can't get past those damned, infernal dogs. "Cry 'Havoc!,' and let slip the dogs of war."

[Lace]

I was taking issue with the tenuous claim that, by refusing to believe the possibility of an abductor, someone would somehow be 'aiding and abetting'.
A pedant could flip that statement on it's head.....'by refusing to believe Gerry and/or Kate are perverting the course of justice, etc, etc......'.
All theories are on the table.

I brought it up as many sceptics use the phrase 'making excuses for the McCann's'    I don't think anyone would like it if supporters said 'making excuses for the abductor'  and I've been proved right   

[Venturi Swirl]

You've heard the Maddie in the bin theory plenty of times, you just won't accept it, despite it's simplicity.

I have heard it, and it’s very simple indeed. 

[Venturi Swirl]

I know Davel isn't here to castigate me at the moment, but I can't get past those damned, infernal dogs. "Cry 'Havoc!,' and let slip the dogs of war."

I take it that’s a “no” then. 

[Venturi Swirl]

You've heard the Maddie in the bin theory plenty of times, you just won't accept it, despite it's simplicity.

PM me your theory, let’s discuss it one to one.

[The General]

I brought it up as many sceptics use the phrase 'making excuses for the McCann's'    I don't think anyone would like it if supporters said 'making excuses for the abductor'  and I've been proved right

It's not as simplistic as that. It's how far some supporters will go, even to the point of tweaking their moral compass to suit the circumstance, to align with the McCann's (the Jimmy Saville debate a week or so ago being a case in point).
I'm not sure what you've been right about, or indeed what purpose that perceived victory serves.

[Venturi Swirl]

It's not as simplistic as that. It's how far some supporters will go, even to the point of tweaking their moral compass to suit the circumstance, to align with the McCann's (the Jimmy Saville debate a week or so ago being a case in point).
I'm not sure what you've been right about, or indeed what purpose that perceived victory serves.

I was involved in that discussion and I don’t recall having to tweak anything.  Please explain.

[John]

People who deny the possible existence of an abductor in this case are potentially aiding and abetting their crimes.  IMO.

That's an interesting one VS, I assume you mean abducted from the bedroom rather than from the street outside?

Surely we require evidence of the former before we consider it a possibility?

[Venturi Swirl]

That's an interesting one VS, I assume you mean abducted from the bedroom rather than from the street outside?

Surely we require evidence of the former before we consider it a possibility?

Round and round we go.  There is evidence I say, no there isn’t you say, blah blah blah ad infinitum.

[John]

Round and round we go.  There is evidence I say, no there isn’t you say, blah blah blah ad infinitum.

No need to go round and round, the abducted from the bedroom claim has nothing to support it. It was invented on the night of Madeleine's disappearance without a shred of evidence. We don't even know for sure if the window was open or the shutter raised, certainly forensics offers a very different view of what occurred.