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[Wonderfulspam]

Virginia police believe they've found the remains of missing 2-year-old Noah Tomlin


By Jason Hanna and Carma Hassan, CNN
July 3, 2019

Remains believed to be those of a missing 2-year-old Virginia boy were found Wednesday morning in a steam plant that converts trash to energy, ending days of searching in a case where the boy's mother is charged in his disappearance, police said.

The remains, suspected to be Noah Tomlin's, were found at the city-owned steam plant in Hampton just before 9 a.m., nine days after his mother reported him missing from their Hampton mobile home, Hampton Police Chief Terry Sult said.

The plant is where city waste goes to burn. The combustion interacts with a water supply, creating steam that is piped to the nearby NASA Langley Research Center, which uses the steam for power.

City police officers -- suspecting the boy's body may have been taken to the plant or a landfill -- spent days sifting through about 2 million pounds of garbage by hand, Sult said.

The remains were not incinerated, said Sult, who declined to otherwise describe the remains' condition or say how they arrived at the plant.

A medical examiner will examine the remains for formal identification, he said.

"Make no mistake: This has taken a toll on our community and our first responders," Sult told reporters Wednesday afternoon. "It will take time for all involved to recover and to heal."

The mother was arrested four days after she reported the boy missing

The investigation began June 24 when the boy's mother, Julia Leanna Tomlin, reported him missing. She initially said her son was last seen when he was put to bed around 1 a.m.; she reported him missing that day at 11:36 a.m., Sult said.

Initially, police said no explanation was being ruled out, including the chance he walked away.

But on Friday, Julia Tomlin, 34, was arrested on three counts of felony child neglect in connection with the boy's disappearance, police said without elaborating.

Investigators still are trying to determine how Noah died, Sult said.

Prosecutors will determine whether more charges will be filed in the case, the chief said. Asked whether anyone else would be arrested, Sult said Wednesday: "We're not excluding anything."

Officers picked through trash in awful conditions

Sult didn't say why investigators started searching the landfill and the steam plant, except that "information gained through the investigation helped focus the search efforts."

City police officers waded through trash in terrible conditions for days, the chief said.

"You're dealing with conditions that are high humidity, high temperature. In this case, at the steam plant, they're in a confined space," Sult said.

Firefighters monitored carbon dioxide and methane levels while officers searched, and called the officers back when the levels rose too high.

"When you get into that and you smell the odors and you're in the midst of everything, then you realize what you're there for, and you're going through literally millions of pounds of garbage," Sult said. "It takes tolls."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/03/us/noah-tomlin-disappearance-remains-found/index.html

[Wonderfulspam]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wL9Ycceutc

[ShiningInLuz]

Virginia police believe they've found the remains of missing 2-year-old Noah Tomlin


By Jason Hanna and Carma Hassan, CNN
July 3, 2019

Remains believed to be those of a missing 2-year-old Virginia boy were found Wednesday morning in a steam plant that converts trash to energy, ending days of searching in a case where the boy's mother is charged in his disappearance, police said.

The remains, suspected to be Noah Tomlin's, were found at the city-owned steam plant in Hampton just before 9 a.m., nine days after his mother reported him missing from their Hampton mobile home, Hampton Police Chief Terry Sult said.

The plant is where city waste goes to burn. The combustion interacts with a water supply, creating steam that is piped to the nearby NASA Langley Research Center, which uses the steam for power.

City police officers -- suspecting the boy's body may have been taken to the plant or a landfill -- spent days sifting through about 2 million pounds of garbage by hand, Sult said.

The remains were not incinerated, said Sult, who declined to otherwise describe the remains' condition or say how they arrived at the plant.

A medical examiner will examine the remains for formal identification, he said.

"Make no mistake: This has taken a toll on our community and our first responders," Sult told reporters Wednesday afternoon. "It will take time for all involved to recover and to heal."

The mother was arrested four days after she reported the boy missing

The investigation began June 24 when the boy's mother, Julia Leanna Tomlin, reported him missing. She initially said her son was last seen when he was put to bed around 1 a.m.; she reported him missing that day at 11:36 a.m., Sult said.

Initially, police said no explanation was being ruled out, including the chance he walked away.

But on Friday, Julia Tomlin, 34, was arrested on three counts of felony child neglect in connection with the boy's disappearance, police said without elaborating.

Investigators still are trying to determine how Noah died, Sult said.

Prosecutors will determine whether more charges will be filed in the case, the chief said. Asked whether anyone else would be arrested, Sult said Wednesday: "We're not excluding anything."

Officers picked through trash in awful conditions

Sult didn't say why investigators started searching the landfill and the steam plant, except that "information gained through the investigation helped focus the search efforts."

City police officers waded through trash in terrible conditions for days, the chief said.

"You're dealing with conditions that are high humidity, high temperature. In this case, at the steam plant, they're in a confined space," Sult said.

Firefighters monitored carbon dioxide and methane levels while officers searched, and called the officers back when the levels rose too high.

"When you get into that and you smell the odors and you're in the midst of everything, then you realize what you're there for, and you're going through literally millions of pounds of garbage," Sult said. "It takes tolls."

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/03/us/noah-tomlin-disappearance-remains-found/index.html

Nasty undertones but quite revealing.   

[Brietta]

Fauvrelle family were in house when pregnant woman killed
Mother and siblings woken by screams, police say after announcing baby’s death
Mattha Busby
Wed 3 Jul 2019

A woman in the advanced stages of her pregnancy was stabbed to death in her bedroom with her entire family in the home, Scotland Yard has announced.

Her baby son, who was named Riley by the family after being delivered by paramedics via a caesarean section at the scene, died in hospital early on Wednesday morning.

Kelly Mary Fauvrelle, 26, was eight months pregnant when she was murdered at her home in Raymead Avenue, Thornton Heath, in south London, in the early hours of Saturday morning.

Riley’s father, who did not live with Fauvrelle, was with him when he died on Wednesday and is not being treated as a suspect at this stage, according to the force.

As part of what police said was a “fast-paced” and “extremely challenging investigation”, CCTV footage was released by the Met on Wednesday showing a possible suspect wearing light-coloured clothing, including what appears to be a hooded top, walking towards the address at 3.11am before sprinting away towards Colliers Water Lane, just off the high street, about 10 minutes later.

Two men have been arrested on suspicion of murder. One, aged 37, was released with no further action, and a second, aged 29, has been released on bail until early August.

The MP for Croydon North, Steve Reed, said during prime minister’s questions on Wednesday: “The police now believe this may have been a random attack by someone unknown to the family.”

In response, Theresa May said: “We were all shocked when we saw this terrible act.”

The force are appealing for anyone who may know the potential suspect to contact them, while officers retain an open mind as to whether Fauvrelle’s attacker was known to her.

DCI Mick Norman said: “We need to identify the man shown in the footage urgently, even if only to eliminate him from our inquiries. I need to hear from anyone who knows who he is. If this is you, it is imperative that you contact my team immediately.”

He explained how the Royal Mail worker’s family heard her screams at about 3.30am, alerting them to the attack. However, when Fauvrelle’s sister entered the ground-floor room there was no one else there.

“It was a savage and sustained attack on a clearly and obviously heavily pregnant woman, which has had catastrophic results,” Norman said. “She has suffered from multiple stab wounds. When the family got into her room, she was clearly critically injured.”

He said Fauvrelle’s whole family – her mother, two brothers, as well as her sister and the sister’s baby son – were in the house but none of them witnessed the attack, while the murder weapon, which could be a kitchen knife, has yet to be found.

“The attack took place in Kelly’s bedroom on the ground floor and at the rear of the premises … In terms of access there is a communal passageway and potentially the obvious access point would be through the kitchen,” he said. “There is no sign of a forced entry but that does not mean, through accident, the premises were insecure.”

A dedicated team of detectives are working “day and night” to develop a detailed picture of Fauvrelle’s life in order to find the person responsible for her death.

“What is very clear is she was very happy to be pregnant,” Norman said. “She was very much looking forward to being a mother. She was popular but also a very private person.”

He explained that police and paramedics did “everything they possibly could to try to save Kelly’s life” but they delivered the baby when it became clear they were going to be unsuccessful.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/03/kelly-mary-fauvrelle-family-in-house-when-pregnant-woman-killed?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZGF5cy0xOTA3MDQ%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK&CMP=GTUK_email

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Someone entered Kelly Mary's home and stabbed her to death ... unseen by anyone, apparently not even the CCTV camera.
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“The police now believe this may have been a random attack by someone unknown to the family.”


The police don't seem to have much to go on since it appears the attacker left little behind except devastation.  Certainly no murder weapon nor sign of a forced entry.

One thing we can rely on though is that the police will not pick a suspect or two and embark on a press campaign against them and expect it to be considered

• acceptable behaviour to be tolerated in a justice system
• or legal behaviour with the slightest chance of standing up in court

If Kelly Mary's screams had not wakened her family her murder would not have been discovered until they were up and about in the morning.
Even with a house full of people, there were no witnesses and the murderer was able to make good his escape.

But whatever the circumstances of Kelly Mary's death it has to be accepted that there are deviants out there who have no qualms about taking chances to achieve their ends ... I think the thought of that is something that should be borne in mind by those who delight in excoriating Madeleine McCann's friends and family with the hatefulness unleashed against them on every day that has passed for over the past twelve years.

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He said Fauvrelle’s whole family – her mother, two brothers, as well as her sister and the sister’s baby son – were in the house but none of them witnessed the attack, while the murder weapon, which could be a kitchen knife, has yet to be found.

“The attack took place in Kelly’s bedroom on the ground floor and at the rear of the premises … In terms of access there is a communal passageway and potentially the obvious access point would be through the kitchen,” he said. “There is no sign of a forced entry but that does not mean, through accident, the premises were insecure.”

[Venturi Swirl]

This case is utterly sickening and depressing.  So sad.

[Wonderfulspam]

Call me racist if you like but I bet her assailant is black.

[Venturi Swirl]

Call me racist if you like but I bet her assailant is black.

And so what if he was?  The victim was also black. 

[The General]

The police don't seem to have much to go on since it appears the attacker left little behind except devastation.  Certainly no murder weapon nor sign of a forced entry.

One thing we can rely on though is that the police will not pick a suspect or two and embark on a press campaign against them and expect it to be considered

• acceptable behaviour to be tolerated in a justice system
• or legal behaviour with the slightest chance of standing up in court

If Kelly Mary's screams had not wakened her family her murder would not have been discovered until they were up and about in the morning.
Even with a house full of people, there were no witnesses and the murderer was able to make good his escape.

But whatever the circumstances of Kelly Mary's death it has to be accepted that there are deviants out there who have no qualms about taking chances to achieve their ends ... I think the thought of that is something that should be borne in mind by those who delight in excoriating Madeleine McCann's friends and family with the hatefulness unleashed against them on every day that has passed for over the past twelve years.

I think you need to have a word with yourself, using this savage attack to somehow support your views on the treatment of the McCann's.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I think you need to have a word with yourself, using this savage attack to somehow support your views on the treatment of the McCann's.

You need to get used to this- I laugh it off. This is mild. it used to be we were evil trolls, uneducated and mentaly ill! 

Back on topic. I wonder how Little Noah got to be in that vacinity, and who did the tip off. Must have been an accomplice or the perpertrtor?

[Brietta]

I think you need to have a word with yourself, using this savage attack to somehow support your views on the treatment of the McCann's.

A random intruder who the police believe may have been a stranger entered Kelly Mary's home without leaving sign of a forced entry, murdered her and ultimately her baby son while her entire family slept around her.

The only proactive timeline of relevance that I can see there is the murderers.

It can be speculated that the man seen on the CCTV footage approaching the house then running away from it ten minutes later ... and certainly the police would like to speak to him ... might be able to fill in the gaps.

That is the bare outline of what happened in the last minutes of Kelly Mary's life before an intruder took it from her and her son.

The lesson to be learned as far as those following Madeleine's story are concerned is that random evil acts which are beyond understanding are carried out by evil people and the evil which befell Madeleine is by no stretch of the imagination something which is either mysterious or unique.

[faithlilly]

A random intruder who the police believe may have been a stranger entered Kelly Mary's home without leaving sign of a forced entry, murdered her and ultimately her baby son while her entire family slept around her.

The only proactive timeline of relevance that I can see there is the murderers.

It can be speculated that the man seen on the CCTV footage approaching the house then running away from it ten minutes later ... and certainly the police would like to speak to him ... might be able to fill in the gaps.

That is the bare outline of what happened in the last minutes of Kelly Mary's life before an intruder took it from her and her son.

The lesson to be learned as far as those following Madeleine's story are concerned is that random evil acts which are beyond understanding are carried out by evil people and the evil which befell Madeleine is by no stretch of the imagination something which is either mysterious or unique.

And lest we forget, children are tens of times more likely to be harmed by a family member than a random stranger.

[Venturi Swirl]

And lest we forget, children are tens of times more likely to be harmed by a family member than a random stranger.

Try telling that to all the parents of children abducted and murdered by strangers.

[Brietta]

And lest we forget, children are tens of times more likely to be harmed by a family member than a random stranger.

Mibbe so ... and in Kelly Mary's home at the time she and her son were murdered by a knifeman, there were plenty of them about ... her mother, two brothers, as well as her sister and the sister’s baby son.

But it seems someone went to the bother of entering the premises from outside to carry out the murder just as it seems someone entered the McCann apartment to kidnap Madeleine.

At the moment in Kelly Mary's case it seems the police are indeed going with a random stranger ... just in much the same way that the Judicial Police and Scotland Yard have been looking for an abductor in Madeleine's case.
 

[Venturi Swirl]

I think you need to have a word with yourself, using this savage attack to somehow support your views on the treatment of the McCann's.

What do you think Spam is doing every time he posts here about some poor child killed by a parent?  The implication being “see parents kill their kids and fake an abduction therefore it follows that the McCanns dunnit”.

[Mr Gray]

And lest we forget, children are tens of times more likely to be harmed by a family member than a random stranger.

By that logic all children should be removed from their families and placed with a random stranger.... For their own safety