Amaral and the dogs

[Carana]

The dog alerts were confirmed and Gonçalo Amaral did not misinterpret the DNA results. The first reports given to the PJ from the laboratory and the UK police indicated a match to Madeleine, then with the bombshell final report, John Lowe somehow mixes in 37 markers instead of the 19 and all of a sudden they don't know who the fluids belong to! Very strange or not so strange at all.

Let's examine your assertion.

... The dog alerts were confirmed (by whom?)

...Gonçalo Amaral did not misinterpret the DNA results. (Ok, let's read further)

...The first reports given to the PJ from the laboratory and the UK police indicated a match to Madeleine (cite from the forensic files, please?)

...then with the bombshell final report, John Lowe somehow mixes in 37 markers instead of the 19 (cite from the forensic files, please?)



...and all of a sudden they don't know who the fluids belong to! (could you indicate where - in the forensic reports - that it was ever established that there were any fluids? Once you've provided a cite for that, perhaps we could examine where there was a "sudden doubt" as to whom those "fluids" might have belonged.)

[Lace]

That will not be a problem.

You make me laugh Stephen with your comments   'that will not be a problem'   it's as if you can see into the future,  you can't though can you?

[pathfinder73]

Yes he does.  So, asking again, why did he alert to a tissue in a windy old gun placement in Jersey and not alert to traces of blood that must surely have been present in all (or at least some) of the apartments he checked out?

Eddie was searching for cadaver scent and he found it at the wardrobe. Keela is the blood dog.

[Alfred R Jones]

Eddie was searching for cadaver scent and he found it at the wardrobe. Keela is the blood dog.

What was he searching for in Jersey, when he alerted to the tissue?

[ferryman]

Eddie was searching for cadaver scent and he found it at the wardrobe. Keela is the blood dog.

Eddie was searching for a scent he was trained to react to, which includes the scent of blood.

And then there are the well-documented studies that establish that excessive direction (of a dog) and sub-concious bias can influence dog reactions.

Grime himself says as much in his profile.

[pathfinder73]

Eddie was searching for a scent he was trained to react to, which includes the scent of blood.

And then there are the well-documented studies that establish that excessive direction (of a dog) and sub-concious bias can influence dog reactions.

Grime himself says as much in his profile.

As soon as Eddie entered 5A he detected the scent and was searching for the body. His behaviour changed. Grime knows his dog and the wardrobe was the first alert by Eddie. That alert wasn't for blood!

[Mr Gray]

As soon as Eddie entered 5A he detected the scent and was searching for the body. His behaviour changed. Grime knows his dog and the wardrobe was the first alert by Eddie. That alert wasn't for blood!

typical sceptic poor level of understanding re the alerts

[Alfred R Jones]

As soon as Eddie entered 5A he detected the scent and was searching for the body. His behaviour changed. Grime knows his dog and the wardrobe was the first alert by Eddie. That alert wasn't for blood!

Why did Grime bother with Keela at all then?

[pathfinder73]

Why did Grime bother with Keela at all then?

Keela finds blood that has been cleaned to try and detect that vital missing evidence. Keela has to get in real close and sniff hard while Eddie can roam around to detect the source.

Watch the video and see how they work:

[Alfred R Jones]

Keela finds blood that has been cleaned to try and detect that vital missing evidence. Keela has to get in real close and sniff hard while Eddie can roam around to detect the source.

Watch the video and see how they work:

Why bother with Keela when Eddie can also find blood - eg: on a tissue?

[Eleanor]

God, I am getting so bored with this.  Did Eddie think he was on a Jolly?  Or did he think he was going to play the game, as it were?

He was a Spaniel and basically a Working Dog.  It's what they do.  He didn't understand the sense of it, but he knew that the game was on.

And quite frankly, I am appalled by the fact that Martin Grime had so little control of the dog that he couldn't even get it to walk to heal.
But then I don't believe that.  Martin Grime knew exactly what he was doing.  So don't tell me that Eddie could smell anything from the walkway outside the appartment.  Especially when it took him some time to smell anything inside the appartment.

That was the best bit of grandstanding that I have ever seen.

[pathfinder73]

Eddie was different from the day he was born. A dog whose owner was finding him simply "unmanageable".

"His normal reaction is to bark. On this occasion he started to dig. As soon as he started to dig I called him back.” The jury was told that a body was found at the spot Eddie had indicated.

The video clearly showed the spaniel examining the other vehicles without reacting, and as soon as it entered the Lantra it began barking and refused to get out.

The dogs have spoken and it's no game because if they get it wrong they are out of a job. They weren't the best paid  dogs in Britain for getting it wrong  Successful cases and top marks put them into that position. Crime scenes that are cleaned and covered up won't fool these dogs. They only alert when 100% certain.

[Alfred R Jones]

Eddie was different from the day he was born. A dog whose owner was finding him simply "unmanageable".

"His normal reaction is to bark. On this occasion he started to dig. As soon as he started to dig I called him back.” The jury was told that a body was found at the spot Eddie had indicated.

The video clearly showed the spaniel examining the other vehicles without reacting, and as soon as it entered the Lantra it began barking and refused to get out.

The dogs have spoken and it's no game because if they get it wrong they are out of a job. They weren't the best paid  dogs in Britain for getting it wrong  Successful cases and top marks put them into that position. Crime scenes that are cleaned and covered up won't fool these dogs. They only alert when 100% certain.

What a peculiar post.

[pathfinder73]

What a peculiar post.

It was to show to Eleanor that he sometimes did things differently but he was always successful at his job.

[Alfred R Jones]

It was to show to Eleanor that he sometimes did things differently but he was always successful at his job.

I don't know where to begin with that one tbh, quite extraordinary...