Amaral and the dogs

[mercury]

And the scent of Gerry's blood on the ignition key of the car.

Could detect a scent on clothing in the gym; but no scent on the same clothing in the villa.

Most strange.

It hasn'tbeen established it was Gerry's blood and secondly, it's only a possibility.

[Mr Gray]

Because he wasn't?
In training there is no doubt about any alert as the matter is there
In operational cases, Mr Grime says he has not been distracted by various factors such as road kill, bacon sandwhiches, etc
The point is, this dog was highly trained to the scent of dead carcasses, and that is what he will have smelt and alerted to, with some small provisos

I'm glad you admit that it is a lie that in 200 cases eddie has never been wrong...a complete lie...so was there abody in 5a..do we know....

[ferryman]

It hasn'tbeen established it was Gerry's blood and secondly, it's only a possibility, keep up

The substance matched Gerry's DNA (I'll grant, not identified as blood).

But if it wasn't blood, then Keela must have alerted falsely, because she is not trained to react to anything else.

[pathfinder73]

I'm glad you admit that it is a lie that in 200 cases eddie has never been wrong...a complete lie...so was there abody in 5a..do we know....

You don't get to be the highest paid dog in Britain for getting it wrong.

[mercury]

Let's get back to the topic.

Even if a hundred posters go into the annals and intricacies of cadaver dog history, Amaral  and his team ( or the other way around) was given x y z information at the time and came to a theory/conclusion....that's that and what happened at the time...it really wasn't their problem

[Mr Gray]

Let's get back to the topic.

Even if a hundred posters go into the annals and intricacies of cadaver dog history, Amaral  and his team ( or the other way around) was given x y z information at the time and came to a theory/conclusion....that's that and what happened at the time...it really wasn't their problem

That may have been what happened at the time ...but by the time amaral wrote his book Grime had said the alerts had no evidential reliability...amaral continued with his lies

[ferryman]

You don't get to be the highest paid dog in Britain for getting it wrong.

Maybe, a touch of hyperbole in reporting, there.

There is an FOI answer somewhere that gives the breakdown of costs of hiring Eddie, and it's nothing like the amounts touted in the press.

[mercury]

I'm glad you admit that it is a lie that in 200 cases eddie has never been wrong...a complete lie...so was there abody in 5a..do we know....

What is your problem exactly Dave? Why do you feel the need to put words into peoples mouths and also misconstrue what they have posted? I don't recall anyone asking me to admit anything for starters. And to finish because you are being tiresome, a) where is the "lie" in the fact that Eddie has never been wrong in 200 case searches and b) no one knows if there was a body in 5a or not. If they suggest they do they are being dishonest although it is totally acceptable also to believe there is no possibility (for reasons other than the dog alerts).End of, period. If you have trouble comprehending, do give me anither shout, I'm always willing to educate where I can. It's my day off work and was looking forward to posting, please don't spoil it.

[mercury]

That may have been what happened at the time ...but by the time amaral wrote his book Grime had said the alerts had no evidential reliability...amaral continued with his lies

Mr Grime submitted his report in August 2007. Whilst Mr Amaral was still on the case. Nothing to do with the book or when it was published and the reasons. Steady on chap.Get your brainwaves into order.

[Mr Gray]

What is your problem exactly Dave? Why do you feel the need to put words into peoples mouths and also misconstrue what they have posted? I don't recall anyone asking me to admit anything for starters. And to finish because you are being tiresome, a) where is the "lie" in the fact that Eddie has never been wrong in 200 case searches and b) no one knows if there was a body in 5a or not. If they suggest they do they are being dishonest although it is totally acceptable also to believe there is no possibility (for reasons other than the dog alerts).End of, period. If you have trouble comprehending, do give me anither shout, I'm always willing to educate where I can. It's my day off work and was looking forward to posting, please don't spoil it.

it has been claimed on here and elsewhere that eddie has never been wrong in 200 cases...that's a lie

Amaral has not suggested there was  a  body in 5a he has stated it as a fact...that's another lie

if you think you can educate me you are deluded

If you post expect to be challenged by those who don't agree with you

[misty]

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Much is made of the training & achievements of the dogs, but little attention is paid to the handler's own training in the various relevant areas.

[Mr Gray]

Mr Grime submitted his report in August 2007. Whilst Mr Amaral was still on the case. Nothing to do with the book or when it was published and the reasons. Steady on chap.Get your brainwaves into order.

so why didn't amaral reflect the truth in what Grime said.....the thread is about amaral misrepresenting what the alerts signified

[pathfinder73]

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Friday 23 April 2004
http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/local-stories/wuff-justice-doggy-sleuths-on-the-trail-of-murder-victims-1-2543216

[Mr Gray]

Mr Grime submitted his report in August 2007. Whilst Mr Amaral was still on the case. Nothing to do with the book or when it was published and the reasons. Steady on chap.Get your brainwaves into order.

this is what amaral said in his book...this is what his deluded followers believe

From then on, we are sure that, at a given moment, there was a body in apartment 5A. We now have to interview firemen, medical services personnel, previous tenants and employees of the Ocean Club to make sure that no death has taken place in this accommodation, which they confirm. So, we can conclude that the odour discovered is certainly that of Madeleine Beth McCann. (TOTL)

[Brietta]

I take it we have established that we don't know what, scientifically, the prime suspect AKA Eddie, was smelling?

Got it in one, Shining ...