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ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #885 on: July 13, 2015, 09:45:00 PM »
Sorry, I didn't understand that

I questioned why would dogs who cant trace a personal scent be issued with personal items

The bit you didn't understand is the answer to your question.

The handlers (in good faith) improvised in the hope that their dogs would track Madeleine's scent.

There was never the slightest chance that they would.

Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #886 on: July 13, 2015, 09:52:12 PM »
There doesn't seem to be anything in the files saying a  scent search was done inside the apartment by GNR dogs. Why would they do that? On the 4 May? The fact there were footprints and hairs (mainly in the kids bedroom) doesn't prove it was either. Its possible this "story" came on the back of the English dog findings.

PS Ferryman, if these dogs only scented a generic human scent  (as they do in disaster zones for example) they wouldn't have been given Madeleines clothes, towel and blanket, would they? What does generic human scent mean anyway? Humans were all around them!

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The date of this indoor GNR dog behaviour was 4 May, and the date Sol learned of it was a few days before 4 Aug, IMO.

A good reason to do it, starting from the child bedroom, would be to find which door or window was the exit, IMO.
 
« Last Edit: July 13, 2015, 09:56:33 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #887 on: July 13, 2015, 09:56:52 PM »
The bit you didn't understand is the answer to your question.

The handlers (in good faith) improvised in the hope that their dogs would track Madeleine's scent.

There was never the slightest chance that they would.

Oh, not sure I believe this

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #888 on: July 13, 2015, 10:06:03 PM »
The date of this indoor GNR dog behaviour was 4 May, and the date Sol learned of it was a few days before 4 Aug, IMO.

A good reason to do it, starting from the child bedroom, would be to find which door or window was the exit, IMO.
Ferryman says they cant track individual scents

And we still have no file confirmation (or any other) this ever happened

Im getting the idea youre usng stuff to prove some theory of yours, care to share what you think happened?

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #889 on: July 13, 2015, 10:14:02 PM »
Oh, not sure I believe this

It's perfectly true. 

Dogs that track a unique and individual ground-scent (of humans) are rare and specialised.  In England there is just one police force (based in Dyfed, Wales) that has them.

The Portuguese didn't have them, but they improvised as best they could.

I (genuinely) applaud their efforts, but their efforts were always in vain.

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #890 on: July 13, 2015, 10:33:10 PM »
It's perfectly true. 

Dogs that track a unique and individual ground-scent (of humans) are rare and specialised.  In England there is just one police force (based in Dyfed, Wales) that has them.

The Portuguese didn't have them, but they improvised as best they could.

I (genuinely) applaud their efforts, but their efforts were always in vain.

This doesnt make sense. Police ask for personal effects when they know their dogs cant use them?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #891 on: July 13, 2015, 10:46:19 PM »

What an absolute pleasure it is to read a totally logical Thread that contains no insults.  Thank you all so much for this.

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #892 on: July 13, 2015, 10:50:02 PM »
This doesnt make sense. Police ask for personal effects when they know their dogs cant use them?

The alternative was to give up on Madeleine ...

Offline pegasus

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #893 on: July 13, 2015, 10:54:00 PM »
It's perfectly true. 

Dogs that track a unique and individual ground-scent (of humans) are rare and specialised.  In England there is just one police force (based in Dyfed, Wales) that has them.

The Portuguese didn't have them, but they improvised as best they could.

I (genuinely) applaud their efforts, but their efforts were always in vain.
I think Sherlock the dog would disagree with you?
The video is fantastic (Even if it is fake)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2767766/Lost-just-got-cuter-Airline-employs-Sherlock-dog-detective-return-forgotten-items-left-planes-tracking-scent.html
« Last Edit: July 13, 2015, 11:01:07 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #894 on: July 13, 2015, 10:56:07 PM »
The alternative was to give up on Madeleine ...

Now that really doesnt make sense, steady on

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #895 on: July 13, 2015, 10:58:50 PM »
The alternative was to give up on Madeleine ...

Now that really doesnt make sense, steady on

youre saying police had no person scenting dogs but just said so so it wouldnt seem they were not giving up n madeleine n 4 may, honestly

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #896 on: July 13, 2015, 11:20:47 PM »
Now that really doesnt make sense, steady on

youre saying police had no person scenting dogs but just said so so it wouldnt seem they were not giving up n madeleine n 4 may, honestly

No!

I'm saying that the Portuguese handlers, faced with a stark choice between simply giving up on Madeleine, or mixing-and-matching as best they could on behalf of Madeleine, opted to mix-and-match.

Nothing else.

I have the upmost admiration for these Portuguese handlers ....

Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #897 on: July 13, 2015, 11:25:25 PM »
 8(8-))
No!

I'm saying that the Portuguese handlers, faced with a stark choice between simply giving up on Madeleine, or mixing-and-matching as best they could on behalf of Madeleine, opted to mix-and-match.

Nothing else.

I have the upmost admiration for these Portuguese handlers ....

Giving up on Madeleine? They hadnt even started

So they were faced with that conudrum on may 4 were they? As wigj all other caes of missing persons send out dogs pretending to be what they are not is that what you are saying?

ferryman

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Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #898 on: July 13, 2015, 11:32:35 PM »
8(8-))
Giving up on Madeleine? They hadnt even started

So they were faced with that conudrum on may 4 were they? As wigj all other caes of missing persons send out dogs pretending to be what they are not is that what you are saying?
I think you mistake (conflate!) pretence for improvisation!

The two are quite different ...


Offline mercury

Re: Amaral and the dogs
« Reply #899 on: July 13, 2015, 11:39:09 PM »
I think you mistake (conflate!) pretence for improvisation!

The two are quite different ...

Stop talking cryptic or in riddkes and not answering posts, its time wasting

Just spit it out

Improvisation my arris, so you have not  answered yet did all portuguese dog handlers pretend? That silly
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