Amaral and the dogs

[pegasus]

is it ok go barge in

clipped toenails
semen /used condoms
used plasters
bad breath
period blood
abortions
dead pigs
fertiliser
soiled nappies

there are more

And compost, and algae.
But the point is - some of the EVRD alerts were misinterpreted, because...
IMO the alert assumed to be to the toy was not to the toy.
IMO clothing items alerted to were not being worn at the relevant time but investigators illogically assumed they were..
Those two errors by humans led to a drastically wrong conclusion being made IMO

[mercury]

And compost, and algae.
But the point is - some of the EVRD alerts were misinterpreted, because...
IMO the alert assumed to be to the toy was not to the toy.
IMO clothing items alerted to were not being worn at the relevant time.
Those two errors by humans led to a drastically wrong conclusion being made IMO

so....which dog alerts were valid in your eyes and what did they mean, se you, have to log off catch up tomorrow

[ferryman]

so....which dog alerts were valid in your eyes and what did they mean, se you, have to log off catch up tomorrow

No dog alerts were valid because too many of them were demonstrably unreliable.

Why could Eddie "find" a scent on cuddle-cat when it was hidden in a cupboard he could find no trace of all the time he could see it, sniff it and pick it up?

Why could Eddie find no trace of a scent on clothing in the villa, yet "find" scent on the same clothing after it was transported to the gym?

We know what scent he found in the Renault Scenic and it wasn't incriminating (Gerry's blood).

Why were the inspections of all other villas whistle-stop, yet long-drawn-out and protracted in apartment 5a

....


And so on.

[pathfinder73]

No dog alerts were valid because too many of them were demonstrably unreliable.

Why could Eddie "find" a scent on cuddle-cat when it was hidden in a cupboard he could find no trace of all the time he could see it, sniff it and pick it up?

Why could Eddie find no trace of a scent on clothing in the villa, yet "find" scent on the same clothing after it was transported to the gym?

We know what scent he found in the Renault Scenic and it wasn't incriminating (Gerry's blood).

Why were the inspections of all other villas whistle-stop, yet long-drawn-out and protracted in apartment 5a

....


And so on.

This is why the toy was hidden and a second test performed:

Training starts as a game played with puppies, starting with simple reward-based training (i.e. puppy is given a treat or allowed to play with a toy upon showing a simple skill such as retrieving the toy and bringing it back to the trainer) and expanding outward to "games" with more specific job skills (i.e. a well-loved toy is scented with the desired scent to find; when puppy finds the toy, he/she is allowed to play with the toy; later, scent and toy are separated so that puppy will search for the scent and is rewarded with the toy afterward).

[mercury]

No dog alerts were valid because too many of them were demonstrably unreliable.

Why could Eddie "find" a scent on cuddle-cat when it was hidden in a cupboard he could find no trace of all the time he could see it, sniff it and pick it up?

Why could Eddie find no trace of a scent on clothing in the villa, yet "find" scent on the same clothing after it was transported to the gym?

We know what scent he found in the Renault Scenic and it wasn't incriminating (Gerry's blood).

Why were the inspections of all other villas whistle-stop, yet long-drawn-out and protracted in apartment 5a

....


And so on.

What  does the "and so on" refer to?

Those questions you ask, are, well, just questions by a layperson, instead of proving the alerts were "demonstrably unreliable". Only Mr Grime knows for sure. Well, at least 100 times better than you I would imagine. Then again you would probably disagree seeing as you and others have accussed him of being a liar, cheat and a fraud.

PS It has been explained before. The "whstle stop" tours were just that "because" there was no interest shown by the cadaver dog. But in any case, you would expect a handler to concentrate on the last place a missing person was. That was just IMO

[Brietta]

This is why the toy was hidden and a second test performed:

Training starts as a game played with puppies, starting with simple reward-based training (i.e. puppy is given a treat or allowed to play with a toy upon showing a simple skill such as retrieving the toy and bringing it back to the trainer) and expanding outward to "games" with more specific job skills (i.e. a well-loved toy is scented with the desired scent to find; when puppy finds the toy, he/she is allowed to play with the toy; later, scent and toy are separated so that puppy will search for the scent and is rewarded with the toy afterward).

That was probably why PJ Inspector Dias wondered about Eddie playing with his toy in the villa ... he certainly found it to be quite mystifying.

[mercury]

That was probably why Inspector Joao Carlos Eddie wondered about Eddie playing with his toy in the villa ... he certainly found it to be quite mystifying.

As mystyfying as the identity of Joao Carlos Eddie

 

[ferryman]

That was probably why Inspector Joao Carlos wondered about Eddie playing with his toy in the villa ... he certainly found it to be quite mystifying.

That was PJ Inspector Dias:

From the screening of the videos, referred previously, done when the dogs were working, some doubts arise. We don't want and we can't take the place of the trainer, we only wish to alert, with this paragraph, to some facts, that according to us, need further clarification.

If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Whys didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'


To add to Inspector Dias' list of (pertinent) questions, what the hell was any police dog attending a crime scene doing picking stuff up in its mouth at all?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANALYSIS-11-VOLUMES.htm

[pathfinder73]

That was probably why Inspector Joao Carlos wondered about Eddie playing with his toy in the villa ... he certainly found it to be quite mystifying.

He also wanted to play with that tennis ball. Eddie loves them 

Apartment H5

We searched this apartment and the dog hasn't shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search.

[mercury]

That was PJ Inspector Dias:

From the screening of the videos, referred previously, done when the dogs were working, some doubts arise. We don't want and we can't take the place of the trainer, we only wish to alert, with this paragraph, to some facts, that according to us, need further clarification.

If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Whys didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'


To add to Inspector Dias' list of (pertinent) questions, what the hell was any police dog attending a crime scene doing picking stuff up in its mouth at all?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANALYSIS-11-VOLUMES.htm

Thats a queston for Mr Grime.Or ask the dog! Both are better barometres than one who doesnt like their work and isnt qualified

[ferryman]

Thats a queston for Mr Grime.Or ask the dog! Both are better barometres than one who doesnt like their work and isnt qualified

Mr Grime was launching a solo career.

[Brietta]

That was PJ Inspector Dias:

From the screening of the videos, referred previously, done when the dogs were working, some doubts arise. We don't want and we can't take the place of the trainer, we only wish to alert, with this paragraph, to some facts, that according to us, need further clarification.

If the dog is trained to react when he detects what he is looking for, why, in most of the cases, we see the dog passing more than once by that place in an uninterested way, until he finally signals the place where he had already passed several times'

On one of the films, it's possible to see that 'Eddie' sniffs Madeleine's cuddle cat, more than once, bites it, throws it into the air and only after the toy is hidden does he 'mark' it (page 2099). Whys didn't he signal it when he sniffs it on the first time'


To add to Inspector Dias' list of (pertinent) questions, what the hell was any police dog attending a crime scene doing picking stuff up in its mouth at all?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ANALYSIS-11-VOLUMES.htm

                Thanks Ferryman ... I'll amend my post to give credit where it is due.

[mercury]

Mr Grime was launching a solo career.

So?

[Brietta]

He also wanted to play with that tennis ball. Eddie loves them 

Apartment H5

We searched this apartment and the dog hasn't shown any interest in this particular apartment, apart from around the table, where there was a tennis ball which is how we reward the dog for finding things, as soon as we removed the tennis ball the interest was gone. And so it was a negative search.

Much along the lines of the interesting tit bit he fished out of a kitchen waste bin.

[ferryman]

Thats a queston for Mr Grime.Or ask the dog! Both are better barometres than one who doesnt like their work and isnt qualified

Well, Mr Grime was asked whether the alert to cuddle cat could be considered a concrete indication of cadaver scent on cuddle-cat.

He replied that, on his instruction, the toy was retained by the judicial police for future forensic analysis.  He said he had no knowledge of forensic results.

The truth?

The toy was returned to the McCanns.

It was never forensically tested at all ....