Amaral and the dogs

[mercury]

The" blood spatter" is a total 100 % myth as confirmed by the PJ files wherein its stated all wall material was tested for blood and none found

[Carana]

The" blood spatter" is a total 100 % myth as confirmed by the PJ files wherein its stated all wall material was tested for blood and none found

That's objective, Mercury.

Some in the extremist sceptic camp still tout this as fact for some reason. If they had truly read and integrated the files, they would know that that is simply not true...

There are no doubt deeply held false beliefs on both sides and, IMO, if a detail isn't correct, then it should be corrected.

[G-Unit]

I don't see where the idea of confirmation via forensic tests comes from. Inconclusive DNA was found. It's not even certain what the substance was that the forensic chap left behind... possibly blood (if Keela was accurate) or a drop of sweat with skins cells, innocently wiping a brow. Or a drop of blood from whoever laid the tiles.

Contrary to mythdom, Keela doesn't appear to have alerted at the wall itself, AFAIK. So how the DNA traces on the wall became "evidence" of blood spatter remains to be explained.

The dogs alert and the alerts have to be confirmed by forensics. Forensics confirmed the alerts, simply by finding DNA. The forensic people couldn't confirm that it was blood, but forensics aren't as good as dogs. Keela alerted only to blood, not sweat or skin cells.

[mercury]

the notion that keela may have alerted to sweat is too ridiculous to contemplate but some thnk its worth it, sheesh, wheres a hanmer when you need one?!

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[G-Unit]

the notion that keela may have alerted to sweat is too ridiculous to contemplate but some thnk its worth it, sheesh, wheres a hanmer when you need one?!

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It's beyond ridiculous when you consider what a fabulous job these dogs do. They're so useful when tragedies happen;

Staffordshire Police's search teams, which includes a specialist police cadaver dog, found two bodies this afternoon.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2814729/Search-missing-people-huge-blaze-Stafford-fireworks-factory.html#ixzz3gp0SDO3Z
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[mercury]

beyond ridiculous indeed! TBH Im finding it hard to fnd things that a cadaver dog doesnt alert to these days

weve had the whole gammut from chocolate cake and pizza to clipped toenails, plasters, flower fertiliser, hidden abortion remains,etc and now sweat.....like the police train dogs to alert to sweat, theyd be barking all the time

what people FORGET is the cadaver dog alerted in the last place a missing child was seen, but lets not let details and facts get in the way when defending two dodgy characters hey? makes you wonder what the motive is

[G-Unit]

beyond ridiculous indeed! TBH Im finding it hard to fnd things that a cadaver dog doesnt alert to these days

weve had the whole gammut from chocolate cake and pizza to clipped toenails, plasters, flower fertiliser, hidden abortion remains,etc and now sweat.....like the police train dogs to alert to sweat, theyd be barking all the time

what people FORGET is the cadaver dog alerted in the last place a missing child was seen, but lets not let details and facts get in the way when defending two dodgy characters hey? makes you wonder what the motive is

It's obvious how useful dogs can be in all sorts of roles. The alerts must worry some people a lot if they go to such lengths to try to discredit them. I'm sure that if there were lots of cases where the police used dogs and they alerted wrongly there would either be a massive retraining effort or they would stop using them. They bring them into so many situations that it's obvious how much faith police forces and others have in these dogs being able to help.

[mercury]

exactly GU
why the feverous attacks on policing tools...they do protest too much and it speaks volumes  about so much, that nuch is patently so clear even to stevie wonder

[Alfred R Jones]

It's obvious how useful dogs can be in all sorts of roles. The alerts must worry some people a lot if they go to such lengths to try to discredit them. I'm sure that if there were lots of cases where the police used dogs and they alerted wrongly there would either be a massive retraining effort or they would stop using them. They bring them into so many situations that it's obvious how much faith police forces and others have in these dogs being able to help.

Let's debunk one myth here at least.  No one is worried about the dog alerts.  There is nothing to worry about the dog alerts.  The dog alerts are history.  The dog alerts mean nothing now.  We're so over the dog alerts.  The dog alerts were so 2007.  Guess what?  It's 2015.  Let's all learn to get over the dog alerts and move on, for the love of God, Jesus and Allah.  Thank you.

[mercury]

Let's debunk one myth here at least.  No one is worried about the dog alerts.  There is nothing to worry about the dog alerts.  The dog alerts are history.  The dog alerts mean nothing now.  We're so over the dog alerts.  The dog alerts were so 2007.  Guess what?  It's 2015.  Let's all learn to get over the dog alerts and move on, for the love of God, Jesus and Allah.  Thank you.

LOL!
Too funny
You probablyarent aware youre batting for the other side, unconscious does curious things


 

[G-Unit]

Let's debunk one myth here at least.  No one is worried about the dog alerts.  There is nothing to worry about the dog alerts.  The dog alerts are history.  The dog alerts mean nothing now.  We're so over the dog alerts.  The dog alerts were so 2007.  Guess what?  It's 2015.  Let's all learn to get over the dog alerts and move on, for the love of God, Jesus and Allah.  Thank you.

No, Alfred. You may be 'so over the dog alerts', but others aren't. You can't decide what is or is not relevant, you're not in charge. If people wish to discuss Amaral and the dogs they can do so for lots more years yet. 

[Alice Purjorick]

Gosh!
Bernoulli was so 18th century, we are so over the 18th century and it is now the 21st century we have moved on; and guess what about Bernoulli?
A fascinating form of argument however but it sounds like a Sloane Ranger type of thang.
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[mercury]

Gosh!
Bernoulli was so 18th century, we are so over the 18th century and it is now the 21st century we have moved on; and guess what about Bernoulli?
A fascinating form of argument however but it sounds like a Sloane Ranger type of thang.
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ROFL!!!

 

[Carana]

The dogs alert and the alerts have to be confirmed by forensics. Forensics confirmed the alerts, simply by finding DNA. The forensic people couldn't confirm that it was blood, but forensics aren't as good as dogs. Keela alerted only to blood, not sweat or skin cells.

Where is it stated that she alerted to spots on the wall? If they had been blood, surely it would have been noted that she had done so?

I have no problem with Keela, alhough there is always the possiblity that she could have been mistaken by confusing smells very similar to what she was trained for.

She was trained for human blood and alerted in several places. Apparently in such microscopic quantities that the traces couldn't be determined as such, let alone any conclusive DNA within it.

The living-room wall doesn't appear to have been one such location... so why do some people keep banging on about "blood spatters" on the the wall?

[stephen25000]

Let's debunk one myth here at least.  No one is worried about the dog alerts.  There is nothing to worry about the dog alerts.  The dog alerts are history.  The dog alerts mean nothing now.  We're so over the dog alerts.  The dog alerts were so 2007.  Guess what?  It's 2015.  Let's all learn to get over the dog alerts and move on, for the love of God, Jesus and Allah.  Thank you.